Violence in Video Games and Society

WarazX · Apr 17, 2010

DSGamer64 said:
Get rid of violent music before getting rid of violent video games kthxbai!

The music always leads to voilent graphics...

DSGamer64 · Apr 17, 2010

syko5150 said:
WarazX said:

The way i think of it... All video games have a rating on them. Its pretty simple. If you are not old enough, well then dont play it! If everyone did that, there would be no probs.

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lol i doubt that will happen though since a lot of people on this site(the underage ones) still play the M rated games the good thing though is a lot of stores now a days are making it harder for under age people to buy the Mature rated games(although not all stores/employees do)

Around here it is a criminal offense to sell specified material to a minor, just like it's illegal to sell alcohol or smokes to people under age. You can face prison time and harsh fines if you get caught selling to a minor. I get a good lulz out of the teenie boppers who go into EB Games and expect the guys at the counters to sell them copies of GTA or something like that without parents around.

elimist · Apr 17, 2010

DSGamer64 said:
Around here it is a criminal offense to sell specified material to a minor, just like it's illegal to sell alcohol or smokes to people under age. You can face prison time and harsh fines if you get caught selling to a minor. I get a good lulz out of the teenie boppers who go into EB Games and expect the guys at the counters to sell them copies of GTA or something like that without parents around.

that is only true if you buy games! nobody buys games these days. we pirate them. I am also underage but play halo and other m rated games.

WarazX · Apr 17, 2010

elimist said:
DSGamer64 said:

Around here it is a criminal offense to sell specified material to a minor, just like it's illegal to sell alcohol or smokes to people under age. You can face prison time and harsh fines if you get caught selling to a minor. I get a good lulz out of the teenie boppers who go into EB Games and expect the guys at the counters to sell them copies of GTA or something like that without parents around.

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that is only true if you buy games! nobody buys games these days. we pirate them. I am also underage but play halo and other m rated games.

Pretty much everyone does.

Assassination · Apr 17, 2010

Im a pirate lol...just kidding

r3dfaction · Apr 17, 2010

elimist said:
DSGamer64 said:

Around here it is a criminal offense to sell specified material to a minor, just like it's illegal to sell alcohol or smokes to people under age. You can face prison time and harsh fines if you get caught selling to a minor. I get a good lulz out of the teenie boppers who go into EB Games and expect the guys at the counters to sell them copies of GTA or something like that without parents around.

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that is only true if you buy games! nobody buys games these days. we pirate them. I am also underage but play halo and other m rated games.

This is why the current generation of "parents" are stupid...

syko5150 · Apr 17, 2010

r3dfaction said:
elimist said:

DSGamer64 said:

Around here it is a criminal offense to sell specified material to a minor, just like it's illegal to sell alcohol or smokes to people under age. You can face prison time and harsh fines if you get caught selling to a minor. I get a good lulz out of the teenie boppers who go into EB Games and expect the guys at the counters to sell them copies of GTA or something like that without parents around.

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that is only true if you buy games! nobody buys games these days. we pirate them. I am also underage but play halo and other m rated games.

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This is why the current generation of "parents" are stupid...

i let my daughter play pirated games but i still monitor the games she plays even though shes NOT a teenager i try to keep her gaming to T/Cero B games depending on the content of the games

Wasmachinemann · Apr 17, 2010

giratina16 said:
As long as there are stupid people playing GTA then the world will always be violent.

(I'm not saying only stupid people play GTA I play it too but some idiots take it seriously and emulate the game in real life).

GTA Is Da Bomb, Srysly, There are more mods of GTA than i can think of lol.

BobTheJoeBob · Apr 17, 2010

elimist said:
so, do we have a agreement that idiots and children under 5 should not be allowed to play M rated games?

I agree, but name one person who admits there an idiot and will no longer play gta because of that.

I play a lot of games that are above my age limit, majority of games i play are above my age limit. But i can promise yoou video games do not make me violent. Ask any of my friends and they'll say I'm the calmest person they know.

For anybody who think their a pirate: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lol%2C+limewire&l=1

naglaro00 · Apr 17, 2010

I'm 14 years old and I think that violence in video games aren't bad. I like Bad Company 2. I like Modern Warfare. I like No More Heroes. I like Dead Rising. They have something in common: they are violent. But the violence in these games do not really affect me. I play them just for fun. I mean come on it's just a game. Those parents who complain of games' violence are over acting. Why did they buy the game anyway? Why did they give their children the money to buy the game? That's just stupid. If they knew all along that the game was M rated/17+, why did they get it? blah I keep going on circles. Then there are the kids who play them. They do know that the game is violent. Sure whatever. If they want to play the game, then let them as long as their stomachs can and their minds don't go stupid.

tl;dr
Let children play their games as long as they know that the game is violent. or whatever.

viksmart · Apr 17, 2010

BobTheJoeBob said:
So in the end we can't exactly come to a consensus on this whole situation can we?

I don't think it's an impossible thing to do and I believe we can if you really want to....

Wasmachinemann · Apr 17, 2010

100TH POST!

Guild McCommunist · Apr 17, 2010

I'd rather shoot up a bunch of bad guys in a video game than in real life.

Video games are always thought to be the "source" of violence but really they're just the end to it. They feed to your primal instincts and give you satisfaction. Something that you can't do in real life without, you know, taking the first bus to prison. Most of the "cases" associated with video games causing violence are really just complete bullshit. Most of the sources of these cases can be drawn back to poor parenting or severe emotional troubles.

The only people who think video game violence is a severe issue are those who want an easy scapegoat instead of facing the big issues.

viksmart · Apr 17, 2010

naglaro00 said:
I'm 14 years old and I think that violence in video games aren't bad. I like Bad Company 2. I like Modern Warfare. I like No More Heroes. I like Dead Rising. They have something in common: they are violent. But the violence in these games do not really affect me. I play them just for fun. I mean come on it's just a game. Those parents who complain of games' violence are over acting. Why did they buy the game anyway? Why did they give their children the money to buy the game? That's just stupid. If they knew all along that the game was M rated/17+, why did they get it? blah I keep going on circles. Then there are the kids who play them. They do know that the game is violent. Sure whatever. If they want to play the game, then let them as long as their stomachs can and their minds don't go stupid.

tl;dr
Let children play their games as long as they know that the game is violent. or whatever.

I know your 14 so I'll be gentle....

" 14 years old " playing games that are rated 'M rated/17+'- "Bad Company 2", "Modern Warfare", " No More Heroes", and "Dead Rising" games with varying amount of violence and Realism.

Danny Tanner · Apr 17, 2010

viksmart said:
So do you guys think this CHILD has BAD parents?

How the hell would we know if we don't know them? Just because a board gives a game a rating does not make it any less arbitrary. Why are you or the ESRB responsible for telling someone what games they should play, and then pass judgement on their family?

EDIT: After reading this thread more carefully:

viksmart · Apr 17, 2010

Guild McCommunist said:
I'd rather shoot up a bunch of bad guys in a video game than in real life.

Video games are always thought to be the "source" of violence but really they're just the end to it. They feed to your primal instincts and give you satisfaction. Something that you can't do in real life without, you know, taking the first bus to prison. Most of the "cases" associated with video games causing violence are really just complete bullshit. Most of the sources of these cases can be drawn back to poor parenting or severe emotional troubles.

The only people who think video game violence is a severe issue are those who want an easy scapegoat instead of facing the big issues.

Ooooh " scapegoat instead of facing the big issues"

The majority of our social issues today are related so please inform us!

"How the hell would we know if we don't know them? Just because a board gives a game a rating does not make it any less arbitrary. Why are you or the ESRB responsible for telling someone what games they should play, and then pass judgement on their family?"

Two more great points!

Good work with the pic picture but it is inappropriate.

naglaro00 · Apr 17, 2010

viksmart said:
big blah
I knew something like this would come

yes my parents love me. They raised me fine and I am now in one of my country's best high schools.

I play those games... because they're fun. That's why games are made. According to m-w.com:
QUOTEMain Entry: 1game
Pronunciation: \?g?m\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English gamen; akin to Old High German gaman amusement
Date: before 12th century
1 a (1) : activity engaged in for diversion or amusement : play

and for the rest of that post... uhhh *brain explodes*

Guild McCommunist · Apr 17, 2010

viksmart said:
Guild McCommunist said:

I'd rather shoot up a bunch of bad guys in a video game than in real life.

Video games are always thought to be the "source" of violence but really they're just the end to it. They feed to your primal instincts and give you satisfaction. Something that you can't do in real life without, you know, taking the first bus to prison. Most of the "cases" associated with video games causing violence are really just complete bullshit. Most of the sources of these cases can be drawn back to poor parenting or severe emotional troubles.

The only people who think video game violence is a severe issue are those who want an easy scapegoat instead of facing the big issues.

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Ooooh " scapegoat instead of facing the big issues"

The majority of our social issues today are related so please inform us!

The majority of our social issues are related to video games? What the fuck are you talking about? BARACK OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE BILL IS REALLY JUST HALO 3! And what I meant anyway was the big issues in the case, not in the world. The big issue in Columbine (as I'll show you) was that the kids were mentally deranged psychopaths with a lack of prevention before their shooting and the lack of concerned parents, not fucking Doom.

Let's take a look then.

Columbine High School Massacre: People wanted an answer. Did they blame bad parenting? No. Did they blame lack of investigation before the shooting? No. Did they just accept the fact the people where mentally deranged fucks? No. What did they blame? Doom. They said it fueled their anger and taught them how to shoot people because of its gore and first person shooting content. And if you've played Doom, you know it's not exactly realistic in learning how to shoot, and most of the shooting at Columbine was planned to be shooting at a horde of escaping students or at close range.

Virginia Tech Massacre: Out of all the things that were to blame, people started turning towards Counterstrike, which was blamed for teaching the shooter how to shoot accurately and, as usual, fueling anger. They didn't blame bad parenting or society, they blamed Counterstrike.

GTA: San Andreas: The Hot Coffee thing became a huge issue. Thing is, that A) GTA: SA is a M-rated game, requiring the owner to supposedly be 17 years old, at least, and B) You can only get the "content" through having a modded system. It was just used to show that video games are "bad for kids", while everyone knows that GTA is meant to be a M-rated game.

Mass Effect: The nudity in there was a big debacle, despite the fact it was only like one second of ass. That doesn't even qualify for softcore porn, really. It's like masturbating to a brief sex scene in a movie. The fact is that the sex in the game came after the protagonist developed a relationship with whomever they chose and became serious enough to start doing each other. The sex scene was also completely optional and brief. They main reason this whole thing was an issue, though, compared to having sex in say God of War, was the customizable character in Mass Effect, so dumbtards thought you could basically insert yourself and your likeness (not your voice or anything, of course) into the game so you could basically engage in virtual sex. All the critics of this issue have actually never played the game.

Stefan Pakeerah murder: Manhunt got the blame for this. And while I'll admit Manhunt is a little too overdone for its own good, the fact is the murderer, Leblanc, didn't even own the game. Pakeerah did. And the murder was actually based off the movie Child's Play. Guess where the blame train went next?

Regardless, much of the gore in today's video games isn't really senseless. MadWorld, which is one of the most violent video games most people will play, was humorous because of its over-the-top nature. It was "senseless", but that was the point. Gears of War, in which you can chainsaw baddies to bits, had a story of a brutal, desperate struggle between mankind and the Locust. It was gritty and gruesome, like war.

Jackreyes · Apr 17, 2010

This thread made me cry..

viksmart · Apr 17, 2010

naglaro00 said:
viksmart said:

big blah
I knew something like this would come

yes my parents love me. They raised me fine and I am now in one of my country's best high schools.

I play those games... because they're fun. That's why games are made. According to m-w.com:
QUOTEMain Entry: 1game
Pronunciation: \?g?m\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English gamen; akin to Old High German gaman amusement
Date: before 12th century
1 a (1) : activity engaged in for diversion or amusement : play

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