This is just embarrassing.
Nobody is "stealing Xbox LIVE", how the fuck would you even do that?
developing proprietary software that provides mod menus, access to older dashboards,
That is not what a stealth service is. Those are bonuses, and I am not sure how you take issue with downgrading?
The reason stealth logins are SaSSS on Xbox is because of keyvaults. You need cryptographic signatures from an unbanned console, and if you get banned, you need a way to replace them. Some stealth services can automatically provide new ones and protect your stock KV.
If you think you can do better, make a local alternative.
People like you who obsess over intellectual property law are the reason these programs are proprietary. Do you support FOSS or not? Make up your mind.
Yeah bro you REALLY need a stealth server for your custom dashboards and mod menus and all that stuff.
We use stealth servers to play online. Not sure what is difficult to understand about that, is your brain broken?
Some independent trainers exist but nobody cared. They just want a stealth server to provide them with the all-in-one package because they need their hands held. They aren't patient enough to read some guides on how to run a tool, or change a config file to load the trainer, or patch the binary.
There are quite a few exceptions to this and currently the most popular stealth server Proto provides next to nothing in bonus features, it's specifically aimed at people who just want a modded Xbox online that they aren't cheating with.
The latter part about people being lazy/stupid is a problem with wider internet culture and nothing to do with Xbox hacking. Go ANYWHERE where people ask about any console, or their home computer, and there are dozens of threads where someone didn't RTFM or follow directions.
think critically about the value stealth servers provide
Pot calling the kettle black.
You have a very purist definition of homebrew that does not align with anybody else's. The last time I checked, it did not end with "except the things I do not like".
This is unlicensed software for an exploited console. Simple.
Getting on Xbox LIVE? I'm not going to moral grandstand on this. I stopped playing on Xbox LIVE entirely in 2013. I don't even know who would be playing on Xbox 360 LIVE these days except people with modded Xboxes (and therefore possibly cheating), or Xbox One back compat titles.
I can definitely tell you haven't been on since 2013.
Microsoft is aggressive when it comes to banning because they can detect modified consoles. What do you think the hypervisor and kernel patches to unlock "homebrew" do? Spoiler: they are the same patches as those required to enable piracy and cheating. Are you actually so dumb to think that they would care to differentiate between a console "running homebrew" or not, or that they can even do so? Of course they aggressively ban! Nintendo aggressively bans! Everyone who can reliably detect modified consoles aggresively ban.
Nobody was arguing against this.
Nah, we'll just continue using stuff that's technically illegal to redistribute and poisons homebrew software from the proprietary SDK like Xbox Neighborhood, its janky ass old version of MSVC, XBDM from dev kits, etc.
I don't care and Microsoft shouldn't either.
That is so wrong and disgusting that people like you really do not deserve the work Ryan's put into this. 2 years ago people didn't even believe a softmod for the Xbox was possible. At this point you can run BadAvatar with near instant exploit times to and do whatever you want. But being angry and entitled about a free softmod that has occupied almost 2 years of his work because... oh no, you can't run a stealth server because the design of dashlaunch is subpar for what Ryan wants out of his vision of a framework for his softmod.
See above. You are not entitled to users who agree with your choices.
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