Donald Trump is now officially the 47th President of the United States of America

AdenTheThird · Jan 24, 2025

plasturion said:
are you serious?
So what science says in your opinion about fertilized egg. As far I know It is a new life form with unique genom, which is not anymore part of mother body. It Is an depended seperated human life, enitity not existing on their own due to biological-chemical reactions, but what causes them.
Unfortunately, science at this stage of causality does not deal with it, but ethics, moral law, natural law, philosophy and finally religion does. You're wrong, your political view is that not scientific but supported by established narration. Comfy ground of modern "science" feels like postmodernism to me. It's like do what you want, find any excuse to deny most obvious things, even if even if it

Most of this is either highly opinionated or subjective, neither of which I'm interested in debating. You are entitled to your own opinion about what an embryo, a fetus, and a fertilized egg is defined as.
Another good chunk of it simply doesn't make grammatical or contextual sense.

plasturion said:
It is also not about taking away rights of opressed group, but above all about giving people the will and support to ensure that every human contact is with the intention of planning children, or even if is result of other accidents.
Favored university authorities unfortunately have a say in what should be scientific with no moral resposibility.

Another highly subjective and interpretated stance. It's not up to any one person to decide for all of humanity (or even for a single person that isn't themselves) what the purpose of romance, human connection, or other social interaction is. Some people don't want or can't have children. My girlfriend and I don't want children; if she gets pregnant at some point, I will help her get an abortion. We are both in agreement of this, and that's our right to decide. Not anyone else's.

I have no clue what you mean by "favored university studies". Studies regarding conception, human life, and fertilization have been conducted and peer-reviewed by many credited and reliable institutions, including but certainly not limited to universities. If a study is favored in the scientific community, then that means it's more likely to be reliable or credible.

Your language here implies that you see science as some sort of "big bad" group of immoral scientists making immoral declarations and declaring them facts. This is a hilarious interpretation, and obviously completely false. Science, by definition, must be provable and conform to the most objective perspective of how we understand the things around us. If a false declaration is made, then it's discredited or disproven over time. Studies that persist are that much more likely to be scientifically sound.

Trash_Skirt · Jan 24, 2025

I just wanted to say that I personally will be horribly affected by the upcoming events but damn, I just really wish that one day life would get simpler. I wanna feel comfortable not being in survival mode.

Worrying and doom-scrolling is wearing on me.

AdenTheThird · Jan 24, 2025

Trash_Skirt said:
I just wanted to say that I personally will be horribly affected by the upcoming events but damn, I just really wish that one day life would get simpler. I wanna feel comfortable not being in survival mode.

Worrying and doom-scrolling is wearing on me.

Stopping the taking in of contemporary media is the best (but probably not the easiest) solution. I have no social media; every time in the past I've created an account I end up becoming paranoid about global news events and doom-scrolling before long at all. I get my information from trusted, politically neutral news sites and any associated studies/orders/etc. that they get their information from. The horse's mouth is the best source of reliable information, especially with how determined both sides are to skew any given story their way.

Trash_Skirt · Jan 24, 2025

AdenTheThird said:
Stopping the taking in of contemporary media is the best (but probably not the easiest) solution. I have no social media; every time in the past I've created an account I end up becoming paranoid about global news events and doom-scrolling before long at all. I get my information from trusted, politically neutral news sites and any associated studies/orders/etc. that they get their information from. The horse's mouth is the best source of reliable information, especially with how determined both sides are to skew any given story their way.

Thanks I just might pivot in that direction

plasturion · Jan 24, 2025

AdenTheThird said:
I will help her get an abortion. We are both in agreement of this, and that's our right to decide. Not anyone else's.

Everyone have right to decide who want to kill and who not with al the cosequences.
But still, it'll never be indefferent to me. Probably I won't stop you, but You shouldn't do this, this is Bad and Wrong!
I have right to say, act, protest in case to save innocent lives. This world is still insane!

AdenTheThird · Jan 24, 2025

plasturion said:
Everyone have right to decide who want to kill and who not with al the cosequences.
But still, it'll never be indefferent to me. Probably I won't stop you, but You shouldn't do this, this is Bad and Wrong!
I have right to say, act, protest in case to save innocent lives. This world is still insane!

Yeah... had a feeling you'd take the bait and say something like this.

It's no moral dilemma to me; I'm not killing anything.
You can absolutely say, act, protest, absolutely anything you'd like. It won't make any difference to me. You aren't "saving any innocent lives", because there are no innocent lives to save.
Best of luck to you.

DiscostewSM · Jan 25, 2025

plasturion said:
Everyone have right to decide who want to kill and who not with al the cosequences.
But still, it'll never be indefferent to me. Probably I won't stop you, but You shouldn't do this, this is Bad and Wrong!
I have right to say, act, protest in case to save innocent lives. This world is still insane!

Should rape victims be forced to give birth? Should the women who develop complications they could die from not be allowed to abort? From what I see here, if you had the means, you'd prevent anyone from having an abortion based on your opinion. This is the very reason why this isn't about the "life". It's about control. We know damn well that politicians are using this as a means to control, just as they are willing to make themselves as exceptions when it fits them. They aren't even stopping at abortions, but also contraceptives and other forms of birth control. If the politicians truly felt that life begins at conception, then they'd be allowing all the benefits that come from it, like being able to use the carpool lane for 9 months, or adding a dependent on tax returns. They don't.

You may have a right to say what you want, but so do we, and I find abortion to be perfectly fine, even from a religious point of view where the first breath marks the beginning of life. Before then, the body that the life could inhabit is just like the dust of the earth. Most abortions happen within the first few weeks, long before the "dust" starts to resemble anything like a human. Very few abortions happen near the end of the cycle, and those are generally done because of complications, not because people "change their minds". If a couple has gone for that many months, it's because they want a child, and it's devastating to them when complications interfere.

plasturion · Jan 25, 2025

DiscostewSM said:
Should rape victims be forced to give birth? Should the women who develop complications they could die from not be allowed to abort? From what I see here, if you had the means, you'd prevent anyone from having an abortion based on your opinion. This is the very reason why this isn't about the "life". It's about control.

I think it still could be great if victim should try with no feeling to be forced, same if baby can be born with serious disease.
Complications is the reason you have to save at least one live, but now that's still a minor of all abortions.
I think there are other dilemmas when a mother miscarries her child several times at a time when she will do anything
to give birth, but in this case it is not up to her. Buf if she can save its life is all about that matter.
Maybe some clinics and doctors should exist but should we need that much of them? Do we have to be so miserable
Sure Yes! it is about having control over own and not only own life.
It's like choose to play game with violence or not.
The circumstances of a human being's coming into the world and the path the mother has to go through
are reason enough to take a special look at it.
I know politicans often use it, but's not really that important here.

DiscostewSM said:
You may have a right to say what you want, but so do we, and I find abortion to be perfectly fine, even from a religious point of view where the first breath marks the beginning of life.

Wrong, look at least at the scripture.
Luke 1:41-45

41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42 In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43 But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45 Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!”

Look at the the moment when baby leaped, its about spirit that is in baby has conscious who meets and what's happening.
From the very old time people were sure that's not only form of life. Everything begin not in a moment when egg is fertilized but when the mother is blessed.

Sir Tortoise · Jan 25, 2025

plasturion said:
I think it still could be great if victim should try with no feeling to be forced, same if baby can be born with serious disease.
Complications is the reason you have to save at least one live, but now that's still a minor of all abortions.
I think there are other dilemmas when a mother miscarries her child several times at a time when she will do anything
to give birth, but in this case it is not up to her. Buf if she can save its life is all about that matter.
Maybe some clinics and doctors should exist but should we need that much of them? Do we have to be so miserable
Sure Yes! it is about having control over own and not only own life.
It's like choose to play game with violence or not.
The circumstances of a human being's coming into the world and the path the mother has to go through
are reason enough to take a special look at it.
I know politicans often use it, but's not really that important here.

Wording is a little messed up but it's cool to hear you're coming around to a more pro-choice viewpoint. Now you've just got to figure out how abortion is murder but also it's acceptable in cases of rape. You're almost there.

Darth Meteos · Jan 25, 2025

just wanna remind everyone that the president's best buddy who is also the richest man on the planet took the opportunity to perform two consecutive nazi salutes at a rally a few days ago
like, hand to heart, then the sieg heil
turned around, did exactly the same motion once again
in front of everyone

and everyone is moving on from this
people actually defended this as if it wasn't clearly the exact motion of the sieg heil
as if you can just twitch out a precise nazi salute by accident- TWICE

BigOnYa · Jan 25, 2025

Darth Meteos said:
just wanna remind everyone that the president's best buddy who is also the richest man on the planet took the opportunity to perform two consecutive nazi salutes at a rally a few days ago
like, hand to heart, then the sieg heil
turned around, did exactly the same motion once again
in front of everyone

and everyone is moving on from this
people actually defended this as if it wasn't clearly the exact motion of the sieg heil
as if you can just twitch out a precise nazi salute by accident- TWICE

Republicans are blind to they own parties corruption, missteps and faults. They only believe what they read on that "Lies Social" site, or from the mouth of the jackass himself, Trump. Which is ironic because he is a pathological/ compulsive liar. 20 lies on day 1 even.
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/worl...-30573-untruths/ar-AA1xzzVp?ocid=BingNewsSerp

m00k00 · Jan 25, 2025

BigOnYa said:
Republicans are blind to they own parties corruption, missteps and faults. They only believe what they read on that "Lies Social" site, or from the mouth of the jackass himself, Trump. Which is ironic because he is a pathological/ compulsive liar. 20 lies on day 1 even.
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/worl...-30573-untruths/ar-AA1xzzVp?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Indeed it's this, but also the fact that most of them are not even half-decent humans any longer, too. They lie, they steal, they manipulate, they cheat ... all for their own good and if caught red-handed they will just use whataboutism to deflect every sort of critical input they get for their behavior.

They are racists and xenophobes rotten down to their very core. Everyone who is still a republican or even just supporting this party is directly responsible for all the things that are happening since Trump took the office again. Worst thing is: a lot of them actually pretend to be Christians while at the same time taking a piss on the very Christian values. Think of the Bishop asking for mercy, think of Fauci. How can anyone agree to the way these people are treated by Trump and his brainwashed supporters? These are people who where just doing their jobs and they even did them well. The way republicans use comprehension and logical reasoning is laughable at best and just plain sad, to be honest.

For them it's all just about "owning the liberals" or "making the woke people cry" or "winning", while they keep forgetting that their loved so-called "free speech" is one of the primary ideas of liberalism. They also forgot that pluralism is the only reason for their wealth and well-being. And instead of winning these people are so lost, and I fear it's forever. Unfortunately, it seems like you cannot reach, let alone convince, them with critical thinking, or logical reasoning, any longer. They've completely lost their minds and gone unhinged and humanity as a whole will have to pay the price for it.

If you've been asking yourselves how seemingly normal people could have supported Hitler back in those days almost 100 years ago: Here you have found your answer. It exactly started like this: with appeasement, ignorance, greed and selfishness and boy did it escalate quickly. We can see the same thing happening today, and still we seem to be unable to do anything against it.

littlesmurf · Jan 25, 2025

Darth Meteos said:
just wanna remind everyone that the president's best buddy who is also the richest man on the planet took the opportunity to perform two consecutive nazi salutes at a rally a few days ago
like, hand to heart, then the sieg heil
turned around, did exactly the same motion once again
in front of everyone

and everyone is moving on from this
people actually defended this as if it wasn't clearly the exact motion of the sieg heil
as if you can just twitch out a precise nazi salute by accident- TWICE

The funniest thing about this alleged "salute", is that when Canada invited an actual real Nazi (Yaroslav Hunka) to the Canadian parliament in 2023 and gave him a standing ovation, there was not a peep out of the left on here, Nada, nowt, nothing not even a slight squeak could be heard about that. Yet now you are misrepresenting someone, taking them out of context and making up llies to fit your narative.

It's interesting for me to study the mental behavior of some of the posters on here to see how mental the average left wing fanatic with TDS has actually eneded up being this crazy. It's almost as if all left wing fanatics were programmed by the same lines of code to bend any situation you disagree with into some hate filled driven wibble that only someone with the same code base can understand. It just shows me how easy it is getting to manipulate the average person and plant ideas into their heads for my own ends that they think is their own. Generally it's getting harder to view text on the net and wonder if it's just a mad person with mental issues or just lots of bots that have been programmed by a madman.

m00k00 · Jan 25, 2025

littlesmurf said:
The funniest thing about this alleged "salute", is that when Canada invited an actual real Nazi (Yaroslav Hunka) to the Canadian parliament in 2023 and gave him a standing ovation, there was not a peep out of the left on here, Nada, nowt, nothing not even a slight squeak could be heard about that. Yet now you are missrepreseting someone, taking them out of context and making up llies to fit your narative.

It's interesting for me to study the mental behavior of some of the posters on here to see how mental the average left wing fanatic with TDS has actually eneded up being this crazy. It's almost as if all left wing fanatics were programmed by the same lines of code to bend any situation you disagree with into some hate filled driven wibble that only someone with the same code base can understand. It just shows me how easy it is getting to manipulate the average person and plant ideas into their heads for my own ends that they think is their own. Generally it's getting harder to view text on the net and wonder if it's just a mad person with mental issues or just lots of bots that have been programmed by a madman.

lol. do you have eyes?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1i619pt/elon_musk_mimics_hitlers_salute_side_by_side/
https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageC..._musks_nazi_salute_side_by_side_with_hitlers/

You are the right person to tell something about people being mental and being manipulated.

You know what? We just have to wait a little longer to get a final answer to this questions. In Germany there's been a performance art on the Tesla factory in Gruenheide, next to Berlin. Right now the authorities investigate whether the artists have shown the Nazi salute, which is a punishable crime in Germany: https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/elo...nheide-a-8268048f-050b-4ae7-adf8-bb9cf572cf25

If someone knows whether this is the Nazi salute, it will be the Germans. For obvious reasons. So instead of spilling your crap here, how about you just sit back and wait for this decision? Let me guess: you won't accept the truth, anyway ... no matter what, right? In this case the problem we've found the problem: it's YOU, not anyone else.

Good thing btw: even if the artists have violated this particular law (which will be communicated by authorities crystal-clear), they will not be punished, because in Germany the people have the freedom to create art, as they please. Damn those stupid liberals, right? :rofl2:

LagunaLoire88 · Jan 25, 2025

Xzi said:
So you understand he's going to make everything cost more, then? You can indeed always trust Trump to do what's best for the 1% and what's worst for the 99%.

So buy American or products without tariffs, I mean are you dumb a tariff is not a blanket percentage on all items right, a few will be and ususally are dirt cheap or products you buy one a year or something so go back to school and learn maths and logic.

I mean you can avoid the chinese tariff if you get something from indonesia or korea other countries without right. You hate Trump with your TDS so much you are being a NPC repeating an arguement that has zero logic and keep repeating it still to make a lie of Trump helping the 1% when these tariffs help people buy american meaning it helps the american manufacturers, average joe working at shops selling american products.

I guess you like cheap crap and buy hundred of video cards and cpus every month, man you are rich then you can afford the tariffs. I guess you are thinking supporting american made products is for 1%.

littlesmurf · Jan 25, 2025

m00k00 said:
lol. do you have eyes?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1i619pt/elon_musk_mimics_hitlers_salute_side_by_side/
https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageC..._musks_nazi_salute_side_by_side_with_hitlers/

You are the right person to tell something about people being mental and being manipulated.

You know what? We just have to wait a little longer to get a final answer to this questions. In Germany there's been a performance art on the Tesla factory in Gruenheide, next to Berlin. Right now the authorities investigate whether the artists have shown the Nazi salute, which is a punishable crime in Germany: https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/elo...nheide-a-8268048f-050b-4ae7-adf8-bb9cf572cf25

If someone knows whether this is the Nazi salute, it will be the Germans. For obvious reasons. So instead of spilling your crap here, how about you just sit back and wait for this decision? Let me guess: you won't accept the truth, anyway ... no matter what, right? In this case the problem we've found the problem: it's YOU, not anyone else.

Good thing btw: even if the artists have violated this particular law (which will be communicated by authorities crystal-clear), they will not be punished, because in Germany the people have the freedom to create art, as they please. Damn those stupid liberals, right?

Read the post you quoted, you are a prime example of what I'm talking about.

m00k00 · Jan 25, 2025

littlesmurf said:
Read the post you quoted, you are a prime example of what I'm talking about.

No, I will not react to your whataboutism. Same way as I will not fall for Musk's dog whistling. These playbooks are getting old and tiring by now.

LagunaLoire88 · Jan 25, 2025

m00k00 said:
lol. do you have eyes?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1i619pt/elon_musk_mimics_hitlers_salute_side_by_side/
https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageC..._musks_nazi_salute_side_by_side_with_hitlers/

You are the right person to tell something about people being mental and being manipulated.

You know what? We just have to wait a little longer to get a final answer to this questions. In Germany there's been a performance art on the Tesla factory in Gruenheide, next to Berlin. Right now the authorities investigate whether the artists have shown the Nazi salute, which is a punishable crime in Germany: https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/elo...nheide-a-8268048f-050b-4ae7-adf8-bb9cf572cf25

If someone knows whether this is the Nazi salute, it will be the Germans. For obvious reasons. So instead of spilling your crap here, how about you just sit back and wait for this decision? Let me guess: you won't accept the truth, anyway ... no matter what, right? In this case the problem we've found the problem: it's YOU, not anyone else.

Good thing btw: even if the artists have violated this particular law (which will be communicated by authorities crystal-clear), they will not be punished, because in Germany the people have the freedom to create art, as they please. Damn those stupid liberals, right?

Yes you are manipulated as the side by side is different, one video is Elon had his hand oin his chest before putting his arm out, Hitler didn't do that, in the video Hitlers ar wasn't out to side. The photo was where if you watched where Hitler does in videos that was from it was for a crowd where Hitler always it salutes straight as that was the symbol and only moved side to side afterwards for the crowd,

Apparently you didn't do research of WW2 where nazis killed soldiers that did not salute straight as it could be a spy, sure they check papers butpapers can be faked and the salute done properly and exactly as Hitler did it is proof anyone is part of the nazi cause.

I guess you like to be part of the crowd that avoids fact and supported that 2+2=5 because math is racist because typically use edit footage or footage in a way to manipulate to bring hate towards that person. I mean thathas happend to Trump, Tim pool, Elon, Joe Rogan and many others many times.... Keep being manipulated, be a NPC

Post automatically merged: Jan 25, 2025

AdenTheThird said:
Yeah... had a feeling you'd take the bait and say something like this.

It's no moral dilemma to me; I'm not killing anything.
You can absolutely say, act, protest, absolutely anything you'd like. It won't make any difference to me. You aren't "saving any innocent lives", because there are no innocent lives to save.
Best of luck to you.

That is a pschopathic reasoning, wow ending life, especially when it will become life, innocent one in the future and yet try to justify it as there no innocent lives to save, wow and you think you are not the problem... WOW

DiscostewSM · Jan 25, 2025

plasturion said:
I think it still could be great if victim should try with no feeling to be forced

I'm sorry, what?! A woman that gets raped and forced to conceive against her will should hold onto the pregnancy without feeling forced? Spend 9 months letting something from a bastard's seed grow inside her? You cannot tell me that is okay.

plasturion said:
Wrong, look at least at the scripture.
Luke 1:41-45

Look at the the moment when baby leaped, its about spirit that is in baby has conscious who meets and what's happening.
From the very old time people were sure that's not only form of life. Everything begin not in a moment when egg is fertilized but when the mother is blessed.

Ah yes, the scripture where the woman was barren throughout her life, and could not conceive by any means except from heavenly assistance, when that does not apply to everyone else.

LagunaLoire88 · Jan 25, 2025

DiscostewSM said:
Should rape victims be forced to give birth? Should the women who develop complications they could die from not be allowed to abort? From what I see here, if you had the means, you'd prevent anyone from having an abortion based on your opinion. This is the very reason why this isn't about the "life". It's about control. We know damn well that politicians are using this as a means to control, just as they are willing to make themselves as exceptions when it fits them. They aren't even stopping at abortions, but also contraceptives and other forms of birth control. If the politicians truly felt that life begins at conception, then they'd be allowing all the benefits that come from it, like being able to use the carpool lane for 9 months, or adding a dependent on tax returns. They don't.

You may have a right to say what you want, but so do we, and I find abortion to be perfectly fine, even from a religious point of view where the first breath marks the beginning of life. Before then, the body that the life could inhabit is just like the dust of the earth. Most abortions happen within the first few weeks, long before the "dust" starts to resemble anything like a human. Very few abortions happen near the end of the cycle, and those are generally done because of complications, not because people "change their minds". If a couple has gone for that many months, it's because they want a child, and it's devastating to them when complications interfere.

This normalisation arguement is clear example of manipulation. Anti-abortion movement of any kind doesn't prevent abortions because of complications or preveninting abortion on fear of mother's death. You see hear they mix the up right lie with some other word salad that seem have some truth to make it sound like that anti-abortion is abortions not allowed for a woman with complications.

Clear manipulation and lies here

Donald Trump is now officially the 47th President of the United States of America

Ave Satanas

Member

Ave Satanas

Member

temporary hermit

Ave Satanas

Well-Known Member

temporary hermit

Well-Known Member

Entertainer

Has A Very Big

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Similar threads

Popular threads in this forum