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Switch 2 will be successful as the Wii U

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You think Nintendo Switch 2 will be successful as the Wii U?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 29.8%

  • No

    Votes: 94 75.8%
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I think the Switch 2 will have the same success as the Wii U. That is to say, it will have little success. It feels like it is more of the same, perhaps with some more features (gimmick) or some power improvement to justify its price and encourage its purchase.

It seems that Nintendo is still lazy about NOT making new games for Switch and porting those for Wii U. They have also been lazy in branding. Switch 2 and run. Job done. Law of least effort.

Oh well. Maybe it's just a temporary name. Or an intermediate console and then they will release a better one. But if this is Nintendo's definitive bet for the next 7-8 years, I think they're not going to do very well (And I'm glad, honestly, they haven't worked hard at all, on the previous console they made a Wii U glue cutter and they came out successful)

One way or the other. What makes a console worth it are its games. If Nintendo releases good games for the Switch 2, for me the console will have been worth it (even if it was a commercial failure) but if they continue with this dynamic of repeating and porting games, I will not see the point in buying it (even if it is a success commercial).

17 January of 2025, and still thinks the original Switch was not worth it.

Please do not take this as a comment of sterile hatred towards Nintendo. It's just my point of view, my opinion.

Thank you!
 
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Anikemi said:
It seems that Nintendo is still lazy about NOT making new games for Switch and porting those for Wii U.
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Budgets are up and Nintendo releases more first party titles per year on the Switch than they did for the Wii or WiiU. It's less if you add 3DS, but those games have a very different scope.

Anikemi said:
They have also been lazy in branding. Switch 2 and run. Job done. Law of least effort.
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Nintendo has a lot of casual consumers, and the last few names they used turned out to be too confusing for them to buy things. Nothing to do with effort, just playing it safe with their main audience (-> not you).

Anikemi said:
But if this is Nintendo's definitive bet for the next 7-8 years, I think they're not going to do very well (
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If the Switch showed anything, it's that Nintendo doesn't need a gimmick anymore to stand out. Just delivering a console that runs games, with a healthy pool of exclusives that are devoid of the modern trappings of live service is enough of a product. The Switch 2 is only really exists because 4GB of RAM wasn't gonna cut it for the next 10 years of ports - and I'm guessing parts availability is not so healthy anymore either.
 
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The success of the Wii before it and the Switch after it show that Nintendo is capable of selling wildly successful home consoles, and their handheld devices have always been strong sellers. We can talk about why the Wii U sold poorly, and I mainly think it's reveal, marketing, name were confusing to the average person and the product as a whole wasn't compelling and lacked any really decent exclusives until Super Mario 3D World, and even then, I'd argue there weren't any big system sellers until 2014 with Mario Kart 8 and Smash Wii U. By this time it was too late and PS4 was dominant. I actually think it's the Wii U that's anomalous with it's failure.

The Switch 2 basically avoids a lot of those early mistakes. The reveal trailer clearly shows what it is: a bigger, more refined Switch, but also a sequel hence the 2. They also show Mario Kart <insert number or subtitle> which is really smart seeing as Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is by far the best selling Switch game. If that's a launch title, I really do think Nintendo will eclipse the lifetime sales of Wii U in less than 2 years.

Switch has sold 146 million. 20% of that is 29 million, which is 16 million more than Wii U. So Switch 2 needs less than 20% of the Switch 1 install base to pass Wii U.
 
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I see it being closer to the *New* 3DS line where it was a needed upgrade over the original for the future games while being backwards compatible with the original games. I feel most people will be upgrading just to play certain games like the new Mario Kart if it isn't playable on the original. Games make the console and if Nintendo gives people reason enough to upgrade they will, GameStop will be glad to take consoles off of anyone's hands. Especially in this age of handheld/console hybrids, upgrading to a more future-proof Switch will definitely be reason enough to upgrade if the next console after this will be feasibly 5-7 years away.
 
Aurelia said:
Nintendo has a lot of casual consumers, and the last few names they used turned out to be too confusing for them to buy things. Nothing to do with effort, just playing it safe with their main audience (-> not you).
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Nintendo confused its customers with Wii/WiiU. They are doing again with Switch/Switch2. Just wait and see.
 
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The Nintendo Switch was extremely popular as it is. Really the success of the console will be down to how they market it. We know little about it yet, besides an underwhelming teaser of more information 3 months down the road. If they don't do enough to show it's a different console, i.e. They market the console on the "NEW JOYCONS" or "IMPROVED DOCK" like the Wii U with the "NEW GAMEPAD", and don't show enough to distinguish it from the Switch, then I could see it failing. But it's too early for me to form an opinion on it. Give me an actual trailer and then I will be able to judge that.
 
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KanaKonpaku said:
The Nintendo Switch was extremely popular as it is. Really the success of the console will be down to how they market it. We know little about it yet, besides an underwhelming teaser of more information 3 months down the road. If they don't do enough to show it's a different console, i.e. They market the console on the "NEW JOYCONS" or "IMPROVED DOCK" like the Wii U with the "NEW GAMEPAD", and don't show enough to distinguish it from the Switch, then I could see it failing. But it's too early for me to form an opinion on it. Give me an actual trailer and then I will be able to judge that.
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Im agree with you. I just hope a good zelda and/or animal crossing to buy the console. But this first trailer, this first step, was bad for me.
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M7L7NK7 said:
They're following Playstation's numbering scheme, how is that confusing? It isn't the Switch One or Switch 360
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Nintendo have been always very creative with their names. Not just put a number and thats all.
 
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Anikemi said:
Im agree with you. I just hope a good zelda and/or animal crossing to buy the console. But this first trailer, this first step, was bad for me.
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Yes I'd much agree. A new Animal Crossing would probably sell me on the console. I've been replaying pocket camp, and a game that improved on the systems from Pocket Camp, New Leaf, and New Horizons would be great. I haven't actually played the newest Zelda, but I remember BOTW being a huge reason I stood in line to get a Switch. Hopefully the April direct will have something interesting.
 
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Anikemi said:
Nintendo confused its customers with Wii/WiiU. They are doing again with Switch/Switch2. Just wait and see.
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I think you got this backwards. This is exactly the right move and even understandable to people who call all video game consoles "a Nintendo". It's the switch, but not just a revision, a new system with new capabilities. Functionally, it's a very similar relationship to the DS/3DS, but who could tell the ordering of those with the DSi thrown in if you didn't already know about the 3D gimmick.
 
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Nintendo waited too long for this push. I doubt I will purchase a Switch 2 for the foreseeable future because the original already excels at what it is meant to do and be. If this new console were dual screen, I would be on board. Give us a larger, more powerful, more well-developed 3DS successor and then we'll talk. Imagine 3D games with 2025 graphics... Oh well.
 
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M7L7NK7 said:
They're following Playstation's numbering scheme, how is that confusing? It isn't the Switch One or Switch 360
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It's not. That would be like saying Apple is confusing everyone every year when they go from iPhone 13 to iPhone 14. Switch 2 is literally the least ambiguous name ever lol.
 
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I do get what your saying but na, the wii u was a testing ground for the switch.

They fixed the problems from wii u and then some for the switch and the backwards compatibility on wii u (vWii) was painfully slow and laborious... This is a step in the right direction for the hardware as your switch carts will just boot, no booting to switch 1 mode I would imagine.

So, no... I personally think it will be more successful and if they get the games right then definitely it will be as you will have two generations titles readily available.
 
Unlike Wii U, it follows the exact same, familiar form factor. The only new feature I noticed is using Joy-Cons as mice (?), which does sound substantial, but is far from a Wii all over again. As for marketing, only time will tell.

My wishful thinking is that PC handhelds will become greater competition than before. Deck's literally-all-in-one controls alone are yet to be beaten compared to other handhelds on the market. Definitely a lot less brand recognition by console fans, but hey, who knows.

Not a Switch user, and probably never will be one, but I think it's too early to speculate.
 
This sounds like a loaded poll, even if it was not meant to be. By saying Yes, then it is assumed to sell as much as Wii U by being as successful as it. By saying No, one could take that as not being as "successful" as Wii U rather than surpassing it.

What do I think? Switch 2 will definitely surpass Wii U, and by a lot at minimum. The teaser alone did so much for it that Wii U's marketing failed to do. It literally put focus on the console/tablet from the start, whereas with Wii U, people were confused about what it was when putting so much attention to the Gamepad.
 
Switch 2 is rumored to run original Switch games at 60fps. There are a LOT of Switch exclusives I have yet to play and that upgrade alone would make it a day 1 pre-order for me.
 

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