Gaming Opera DS: Will it work for us?

AeroScap · Jun 21, 2006

From another site:

Opera browser for DS given date, price for Japanese release

We are all excited about the Opera browser coming to the DS—it'll go a long way to help Nintendo fight the feature battle with the PSP. Luckily for us, the date for the Opera browser's release on the DS has been announced: on July 24 you can pick up an expanded memory cart and the Opera browser in Japan for 3,800¥ (US$33). According to the press release, the initial sales will be online only, much like Electroplankton or the WiFi dongle in the US. Nintendo has gotten awfully chummy with Opera as of late—they also announced at E3 that the Wii will have the Opera browser built-in.

There's no date or information about an American release, but I guessing there's going to be very little keeping you from simply importing the package and using it here. There's no regional lockout on DS carts or add-ons, but we don't yet know if there will be other languages supported in the product. As long as there's English support, I think we can count on this to be a popular import until we know the US release date.

So apparently it needs a memory expansion cart on top of the DS cart. Do you guys think it would pose a problem for us flashcart users? Or will be "borrow" some SD (or equiv) card memory instead?

Triforce · Jun 21, 2006

Well yeah the ram expansion is bound to be a problem. If you seriously wanna use it i recommend buying the thing.
Personaly i wouldn't mind trying it out but after about 10mins im sure i'd be strait back on my pc browser.

FAST6191 · Jun 21, 2006

Out of the box, I doubt it will work for any flash cart owners, at best it would be severely feature limited.

However many cards come with a RAM bank which with some very imaginative hacking could possibly be used to fake the presence of the expansion pack.
Granted they are only 16/32 megs but if it were only to be used for cache that should not be too difficult (many browser caches are 50 megs).

Also I agree with triforce, handheld internet is OK but I have a two high res screens in front of me with which I can view internet and many more of it's features with ease.

Once again I remind you all I am taking bets on time to an irate parent/Mr. Thompson suing someone, hopefully me, over some kid seeing a suggestive photo.

AeroScap · Jun 21, 2006

very true. For a lot of ds users they connect through the usb wi fi connector and it will just make the wifi web browsing way too awkward when you have the pc there.

Always thought it will be nice to like whip the baby out like in a wifi hotspot at the shopping centre and surf gbatemp or something XD

Jeomite · Jun 21, 2006

QUOTE(AeroScap @ Jun 21 2006 said:
Always thought it will be nice to like whip the baby out like in a wifi hotspot at the shopping centre and surf gbatemp or something XD

The ability to connect to a web site quickly is attractive to me as well, instead of lugging out my laptop around.

Checking small things such as email, messages, news is a lot easier when you have a DS on to, instead of a laptop.

AshuraZro · Jun 21, 2006

Highly likely it will not function properly without hacking or using that ultra passme with the real ram expansion cart. I still have some hopes for it though, if only to be a bit optimistic.

Hanafuda · Jun 22, 2006

I'll bet it works great if you buy it.

Jeomite · Jun 22, 2006

I wouldn't mind paying ~$30 for the convience of having web access at various hot spots and access points.

ole jason · Jun 22, 2006

Yeah I wouldn't mind buying it. I just wonder what they mean by "expanded memory cart". If it's a big GBA sized cart I'll be severely dissapointed. I don't know how else they could do it though. If they made it DSL dust cover sized it wouldn't work with the old DS and if they make it GBA game sized it will look ridiculous in a DSL.

Dirtie · Jun 22, 2006

Judging by the photos, the expansion cart for the DS Lite is indeed dust cover sized, and it looks like there'll be a standard GBA sized one for the fat DS.

Golds · Jun 22, 2006

there are ds wifi spots at all the mcdonalds around by me.
not that i ever go to mcdonalds, if I did i'd take my opera ds and eat fries or whatever.

the grease makes the touch screen more accurate

AeroScap · Jun 22, 2006

Yeah but I will so whip my DS out like at starbucks or something over a coffee and a newspaper

sage_inferno · Jun 22, 2006

what if gamedevelopers start using the ram expander..
that would mean no more flashcarts.
then again how will they solve memory expand and rumble feature..

AeroScap · Jun 22, 2006

I dont think you can realistically expect all the developers to use the expander as a) it will raise costs b) The games so far havent been anything of the size that tests the ds carts limits and c) what is nintendo going to say when you dont have either their filler cart in or a gba game!

The horror!

PS: I can go on the record for saying.. the rumble feature blows. I have heard that it doesnt rumble with intensity. Just a straight on and off. Anyone confirm this?

ultim · Jun 23, 2006

first review!
http://my.opera.com/organicchunkysalsa/blog/show.dml/309706

ChaosTheorySD · Jun 23, 2006

Awesome. I think I'll definitely be importing it.

Any word if it supports WPA, though? I know you can't use it for the WiFi Connection, but maybe it's enabled for this?

hey_suburbia · Jun 23, 2006

It will display sites in english, but has anybody heard if the menu's will be able to be switched to English?

notchristopher · Jun 23, 2006

If this works better than the PsP browser then I'm sold.

Jeomite · Jun 23, 2006

QUOTE(ChaosTheorySD @ Jun 23 2006 said:
Awesome. I think I'll definitely be importing it.

Any word if it supports WPA, though? I know you can't use it for the WiFi Connection, but maybe it's enabled for this?

I'm fairly positive that the lack of WPA is a limitation of the Wireless Card Hardware found on the NDS itself, not a software limitation.

Best example to point out is that there are Wireless Cards that you can purchase (for a PC) that only support WEP Encryption, but not WPA encryption...

Strider · Jun 23, 2006

I might be overly negative here, but I don't see the point in having this at all.

Let me elaborate.

In Germany, I don't see many (those that are open are mostly misconfigured private networks) free/open WLANs and at home you usually have a own DSL connection with a PC connected to it.

So, where would I use this at all? (Same goes for PSP, of course).

The other thing as the last poster mentioned is the security wise unacceptable fact that the DS only uses WEP. No, of course the data which is sent from/to the DS isn't a (big) security risk itself, but having a WEP access point is a major flaw.

And someone exploiting your WEP WLAN network is using your line, and all illegal stuff that might be done there, can be traced to you. No thanks.

One thing to point out is that at the time of release the WEP flaws were known and WPA was in use already. So there's no reasonable explanation for me not to have that implemented. A nice thing would've been for the lite to have this upgraded.

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