Hacking What NoPass Device Can I Use?

Lily · Jun 16, 2006

Click on the link below for the GBAtemp NoPass Comparison Chart.

Currently, it pits..

Max Media Launcher
Neo MK4 Mini
PassCard 2
PassCard 3 New Version (Orange & white.)
PassCard 3 Old Version (Dark orange, almost red tinted & white.)
SuperKey New Version
SuperKey Old Version
Ultra FlashPass 512Mbit
Ultra PassKey

..against each other. Unsurprisingly, the features and compatibility are nearly the same between them.

Spots are open for..

EZ-Pass 3 (currently unavailable)
Neo M4K-Key (will arrive when order ships)
PassMe2 Z Mini (currently unavailable)
Ninjapass DS Flash 512Mbit (will arrive when pre-order ships)
Ninjapass Media Launcher (will arrive when pre-order ships)

Look for this chart to be continually updated with FlashCart compatibility and any other NoPass devices as they become available.

GBAtemp's NoPass Comparison Chart

Update 20060724

- Added Ultra PassKey compatibility.
- Added Ultra PassKey info.
- Added Ultra FlashPass info.
- Added Ultra Media Card compatibility with all the NoPass devices that I have. It works with some and not others, so look carefully!

Update 20060710

- Added all announced NoPass devices to the chart.
- Shrunk back down to 8.5x11 by request.
- Updated all information & notes.
- Identified the difference in SuperKey compatibility.
- Stay tuned for all the new NoPass information!!

Update 20060704

- Identified my SuperKey as a (No Splash Screen) version.

Update 20060702

- Obtained a PassCard 3 (No Splash Screen). Thanks to the person who hooked me up with it, I appreciate it!
- Separated PassCard 3 (Splash Screen) & PassCard 3 (No Splash Screen).
- Updated EZ4 compatibility with PassCard 3 (No Splash Screen) - it works!
- Updated G6 Lite compatibility with all NoPass devices that I have.
- Updated EZ4 cart names to correct names.

Update 20060621

- Updated EZ4 Lite miniSD compatibility.
- Updated EZ4 Lite microSD compatibility.
- Added the Neo MK4 Mini data.

Update 20060617

- Updated EZ4 compatibility.
- Reordered the features/flashkits.
- Renamed incorrectly named flashkits.
- Added a few more categories by request.
- Added Ultra PassKey.
- Increased page size to legal size.
- Re-wrote some text to make more sense.

Update 20060615

- Initial version.

MC DUI · Jun 16, 2006

Grog for your efforts Qrayzie.

You can tell you have put a lot of time and effort into that comparison. Hopefully that will answer a lot of questions for people.

ZildjianKX · Jun 16, 2006

Hi, I'm a little curious why you put "No" for EZ 4 for the Passcard 3 after you said yes in another thread.

Edited Supercard to Passcard, long day

Lily · Jun 16, 2006

You mean PassCard 3?

It varies based on the firmware/software updates the EZ Team puts out. For example, PassCard 3 & SuperKey worked, then they broke, then they worked again - and with the most recent update, they don't work again. I put no to stop the confusion - hopefully the EZ Team decides to stop messing with their bootstrap so that the devices will work with it ALL the time.

MC DUI · Jun 16, 2006

QUOTE(ZildjianKX @ Jun 16 2006 said:
Hi, I'm a little curious why you put "No" for EZ 4 for the Supercard 3 after you said yes in another thread.

I gather you mean Superkey not Supercard3 (No such thing).

The reason I assume is because the latest EZIV update has made the Superkey not compatible.

ZildjianKX · Jun 16, 2006

QUOTE(Qrayzie @ Jun 15 2006 said:
You mean PassCard 3?

It varies based on the firmware/software updates the EZ Team puts out. For example, PassCard 3 & SuperKey worked, then they broke, then they worked again - and with the most recent update, they don't work again. I put no to stop the confusion - hopefully the EZ Team decides to stop messing with their bootstrap so that the devices will work with it ALL the time.

Thanks for the reply. I did mess up my post

From your testing, are the Passcard 3 and Supercard identical in all respects? Like with the older firmware with the EZ 4, did they both work, and with the newer firmware with the newer bootstrap, did they both break? Is the same true for the MML?

Thanks, I think the answer to the above will end all this crap going around between all the nopass cards.

Lily · Jun 16, 2006

The PassCard 3 & the SuperKey function identically, except for the PassCard 3 having a splash screen when it boots up. (It's not a particularly attractive screen either.) They act as real game cartridges that simply redirect the NDS to load from the GBA slot.

From my testing, when the EZ-Team breaks the support, both cards stop functioning, and when they work - both work.

I haven't been able to get the Max Media Launcher to boot the EZ-Flash IV at all, but I'm still trying different combinations of firmware/software to see if it will accept one.

Lily · Jun 16, 2006

Updated the chart with an X-Cart (ProCard) that I had here as well. Also added X-ROM to the list, but I don't have one of those to test with at the moment.

SFXlakito · Jun 16, 2006

Thanks for this chart- helps a lot with my descions on PassMe's for my original DS and a EZ4. I guess it would be a gamble to buy a Superkey or a PassCard 3 and hope it works in a EZ4 miniSD, so I might as well buy a EZPass2 since I'm planning on flashing my DS anyways.

Pazu · Jun 16, 2006

It seems that MK4-mini Works with EZ4 and EZ4-lite

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...Flanguage_tools

QUOTE said:
Compatibility test

As a guide card section, the only function is to be done in a variety of replication cards, or a fall or before Max Media Launcher and Supercard/PASSCARD3, which does not support EZ1/2/4 and not support behind two cards plus a EZ1/2 procedures, Then MK4 mini sections copying cards for compatibility? Following is the test results :
Supercard : support
M3 : support
EZ4 : support
EZ4 Lite : support
Gbalink : support
EZ1/2 : support (whether single card mode or support a card model)
EFA Linker : support
Earth flash : support
G flash : support

So, will you choose a Passcard 3 or SuperKey or MK4-mini for the EZ4-lite ?

ChaosTheorySD · Jun 16, 2006

For clarification, what do you mean as far as EZ updates go? New software for the GBA cart, and not the NDs one, right?

If that's the case, couldn't one simply use an older version of the software that did in fact work?

Costello · Jun 16, 2006

Impressive work!
Thanks a lot for your work and your time, Qrayzie

.. I need a passcard 3 *drools*

ZildjianKX · Jun 16, 2006

QUOTE said:
Hmmmm. I wonder what this (Old Version) junk is about. I received a second SuperKey in the mail, and low and behold it boots the EZ-Flash IV.

I'm not convinced enough to update my comparison, but..more information is needed!

Qrayzie - so you're not confirming that there are two different versions?

Lily · Jun 16, 2006

I have two SuperKeys, they both look identical. I have to look into it more when I'm back home again.

ZildjianKX · Jun 16, 2006

QUOTE(Qrayzie @ Jun 16 2006 said:
I have two SuperKeys, they both look identical. I have to look into it more when I'm back home again.

Sorry to nitpick, but when you said the new Superkey you got booted the EZ IV, were you implying that it boots it with the old firmware like your first Superkey did?

Thanks for all your help btw.

Lily · Jun 16, 2006

No problem. It appears to boot any firmware, both on the EZ-Flash IV and the EZ-Flash III.

ZildjianKX · Jun 16, 2006

QUOTE(Qrayzie @ Jun 16 2006 said:
No problem. It appears to boot any firmware, both on the EZ-Flash IV and the EZ-Flash III.

Wow, thats freaking weird. Such a new card has a revision already, and apparently the "new" revision is less compatible. I wonder if there are Passcard 3 revisions as well.

I guess the important thing is the EZ Flash team will hopefully do a firmware udpate fixing the problem, and any EZ owner can downgrade their firmware and use either card and install Flashme (I hope you can downgrade the EZ4 Lite firmware as well).

dave43 · Jun 16, 2006

Let me get this straight....The superkey booted with the new 6-15-05 update?

ovejon · Jun 17, 2006

I have a xrom cart that I can use to test with once my passcard 3 arrrives.

ZildjianKX · Jun 17, 2006

Which version of the older EZ kernel did you get working with the newer cards btw? 20060525, 20060530?

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