How to use OPL via UDPBD ?

[Windows_10_User]

So, I was told PS2 games on OPL via UDPBD slow down less than on OPL via SMB. How can I run it? Also, is the PS2 game compatibility higher on OPL via UDPBD than on OPL via SMB?

 

[esmith13]

If I understand correctly, the current form of what was called UDPBD (UDP Block Device) has been realized in OPL as the more standard NBD (Network Block Device) which is a linux compatible network protocol.

As for how to use it, you would want to go here: https://github.com/ps2homebrew/Open-PS2-Loader
and read the section under "NBD Server" (the server is integrated into OPL). Under that is some recommended clients for your computer.
That said, it seems to say that NBD is currently only supported as a way to populate a PS2 HDD from your computer (add games from a computer to a PS2 Phat HDD so that the games can be played from internal HDD - not streaming over the network).

 

[Windows_10_User]

If I understand correctly, the current form of what was called UDPBD (UDP Block Device) has been realized in OPL as the more standard NBD (Network Block Device) which is a linux compatible network protocol.

As for how to use it, you would want to go here: https://github.com/ps2homebrew/Open-PS2-Loader
and read the section under "NBD Server" (the server is integrated into OPL). Under that is some recommended clients for your computer.
That said, it seems to say that NBD is currently only supported as a way to populate a PS2 HDD from your computer (add games from a computer to a PS2 Phat HDD so that the games can be played from internal HDD - not streaming over the network).

That page may be obsolete since it doesn't mention MX4SIO and i.LINK, only USB, SMB and HDD.

 

[Windows_10_User]

If I understand correctly, the current form of what was called UDPBD (UDP Block Device) has been realized in OPL as the more standard NBD (Network Block Device) which is a linux compatible network protocol.

As for how to use it, you would want to go here: https://github.com/ps2homebrew/Open-PS2-Loader
and read the section under "NBD Server" (the server is integrated into OPL). Under that is some recommended clients for your computer.
That said, it seems to say that NBD is currently only supported as a way to populate a PS2 HDD from your computer (add games from a computer to a PS2 Phat HDD so that the games can be played from internal HDD - not streaming over the network).

I was told in Reddit that NBD isn't UDPBD.

 

[esmith13]

I was told in Reddit that NBD isn't UDPBD.

I didn't say NBD WAS UDPBD, I said it was the current realization of the idea behind UDPBD.
If you really want to go down the rabbit hole of outdated/unsupported stuff - here you go:

• Read comments here: https://github.com/ps2homebrew/Open-PS2-Loader/issues/325
• Only OPL branch that supported UDPBD (tho I don't see any indication that it still does in its current form): https://gitlab.com/ps2max/Open-PS2-Loader
• And here's the MEGA link for all the older/archived versions of OPL generated by the "ps2max" branch: https://mega.nz/folder/Ndwi1bAK#oLWNhH_g-h0p4BoT4c556A

I truly hope you find what you are looking for.

 

[Windows_10_User]

I didn't say NBD WAS UDPBD, I said it was the current realization of the idea behind UDPBD.
If you really want to go down the rabbit hole of outdated/unsupported stuff - here you go:

• Read comments here: https://github.com/ps2homebrew/Open-PS2-Loader/issues/325
• Only OPL branch that supported UDPBD (tho I don't see any indication that it still does in its current form): https://gitlab.com/ps2max/Open-PS2-Loader
• And here's the MEGA link for all the older/archived versions of OPL generated by the "ps2max" branch: https://mega.nz/folder/Ndwi1bAK#oLWNhH_g-h0p4BoT4c556A

I truly hope you find what you are looking for.

It seems the official OPL versions don't support UDPBD since only this fork does, at least for now.

 

[Chelsea_Fantasy]

I said it was the current realization of the idea behind UDPBD.

This is not true either.

 

[Windows_10_User]

This is not true either.

What's it, then?

 

[Chelsea_Fantasy]

What is it, then?

They are two totally different things.

 

[Windows_10_User]

They are two totally different things.

OK, but why's that?

 

[Chelsea_Fantasy]

Take, read:

NBD (Network Block Device): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_block_device

UDP (User Datagram Protocol): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Datagram_Protocol

UDPDB (User Datagram Protocol Block Device): https://github.com/ps2homebrew/Open-PS2-Loader/issues/325#issuecomment-723424635

 

[Windows_10_User]

Take, read:

NBD (Network Block Device): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_block_device

UDP (User Datagram Protocol): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Datagram_Protocol

UDPDB (User Datagram Protocol Block Device): https://github.com/ps2homebrew/Open-PS2-Loader/issues/325#issuecomment-723424635

So, it seems UDPBD is used to play games on OPL via network like SMB but it uses a different protocol (UDP) and a NBD server is used on OPL with a NBD client on the PC (like HDL Batch Installer) to mount the PS2's HDD/SSD/SSHD via network in the latter as a local HDD/SSD/SSHD and allows installing PS2 games in the PS2's HDD/SSD/SSHD. Both UDPBD and NBD use Block Devices.

 

[Windows_10_User]

Like I said, only this OPL fork supports UDPBD (at least for now). I'll try running the european The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer via UDPBD with it again.

EDIT: I ran said OPL fork, set "ETH Device Start Mode" to "Off", "BDM Start Mode" to "Auto" and "Default Menu" to "BDM Games", saved changes, restarted the PS2, connected an exFAT external HDD (it has to be FAT32 or exFAT) to my laptop, copied the european The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer to the external HDD, ran udpbd-server from my laptop's HDD (it can't be in the same device as the shared BD [which is an external HDD, in this case]) using an elevated Command Prompt (PowerShell doesn't work) by following these instructions, ran the mentioned OPL fork again, ran the european The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer and I have a black screen (at least, without enabling any Modes) so now it's even worse than before since if using the official OPL version the european The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer's first level's last FMV and second level's first FMV have a loud buzz-like noise when played from an external HDD connected to the laptop's USB port without enabling any Mode but the first level's last FMV had no issues and the second level's first FMV still had a loud buzz-like noise or no sound when played from the laptop's HDD without enabling any Mode. Also, said OPL fork sometimes doesn't show the european The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer until I restart the PS2, close udpbd-server and run it and the mentioned OPL fork again.

 

[SGA001]

Hi I'm totally new here and facing some issues like others here.
I have a PS2 Slim 90004 with Matrix v1.93 in it
Tried following this video:
but the list of games doesn't show up.

"
Opened '\\.\G:' as Block Device
- read/write
- size = 15726MB / 14998MiB, sector size = 512
Block size changed to 128
Server running on port 48573 (0xbdbd)
UDPBD_CMD_INFO from 192.168.1.10
"

This is only what I get after running the v1.20 1973 build of OPL and games don't show up

Can anyone please help?

 

[Windows_10_User]

Hi I'm totally new here and facing some issues like others here.
I have a PS2 Slim 90004 with Matrix v1.93 in it
Tried following this video:
but the list of games doesn't show up.

"
Opened '\\.\G:' as Block Device
- read/write
- size = 15726MB / 14998MiB, sector size = 512
Block size changed to 128
Server running on port 48573 (0xbdbd)
UDPBD_CMD_INFO from 192.168.1.10
"

This is only what I get after running the v1.20 1973 build of OPL and games don't show up

Can anyone please help?

In my case, the OPL fork sometimes didn't show games until I restarted the PS2, closed udpbd-server and ran it and said OPL fork again.

 

[SGA001]

In my case, OPL sometimes didn't show games until I exited it and/or closed the UDPBD server and ran the former and/or the latter again.

Thanks for suggesting but even after trying to reboot both server and ps2 as well, it's of no avail.. Instead it now works when I am using the neutrino with udpbd server...it's much lighter than OPL( given the size of just 8MB of Memory Card). A tutorial for the same is on the same channel of which the video has been linked above

 

[Windows_10_User]

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[Windows_10_User]

Thanks for suggesting but even after trying to reboot both server and ps2 as well, it's of no avail.. Instead it now works when I am using the neutrino with udpbd server...it's much lighter than OPL( given the size of just 8MB of Memory Card). A tutorial for the same is on the same channel of which the video has been linked above

Did you try with other BD or after disabling Matrix 1.93?

Is Neutrino faster and more compatible than OPL? It seems it's much harder to set than OPL. Can it ran games via UDPBD from an USB device connected to the PC or a nano router (connected to the PS2 via its ethernet port), and if so, from the same device where udpbd-server is (unlike OPL via UDPBD)?

EDIT: I was watching this video to run Neutrino via UDPBD using Neutrino PowerShell Launcher since I can't make Neutrino work via UDPBD the "normal" way and after booting GParted Live and clicking "GParted Live (Default settings)", I have a black screen with an underscore (I tried both MBR and GPT partition styles). I tried another USB flash drive and after booting GParted Live and clicking "GParted Live (Default settings)", it crashes on a black screen saying something failed.

 

[SGA001]

Did you try with other BD or after disabling Matrix 1.93?

Is Neutrino faster and more compatible than OPL? It seems it's much harder to set than OPL. Can it ran games via UDPBD from an USB device connected to the PC or a nano router, and if so, from the same device where the UDPBD server is (unlike OPL)?

EDIT: I was watching the video you mentioned to be able to run Neutrino via UDPBD but after booting GParted Live and clicking "GParted Live (Default settings)", I have a black screen with a tilt or saying something failed.

I didn't do any changes in the matrix 1.93 settings.

Yes, but neutrino has nothing to do with speed as both OPL and neutrino would be using the UDPBD server to share data, however neutrino is much much lighter than OPL (given the 8MB memory) and has does have a better compatibily. It doesn't matter whether the Drive is internal or a USB connected to pc(I, myself, am using the USB), only thing is it should be ex-fat formatted through Linux (GParted-if you are using windows), UDPBD server has been there for nano router as well but I haven't tried it yet.

Check if you have properly made the bootable usb files or not, also many systems don't allow to boot from USBs by default, you can check for your respective system and enable it in BIOS setting as per your system model.

 

[Windows_10_User]

I didn't do any changes in the matrix 1.93 settings.

Yes, but neutrino has nothing to do with speed as both OPL and neutrino would be using the UDPBD server to share data, however neutrino is much much lighter than OPL (given the 8MB memory) and has does have a better compatibily. It doesn't matter whether the Drive is internal or a USB connected to pc(I, myself, am using the USB), only thing is it should be ex-fat formatted through Linux (GParted-if you are using windows), UDPBD server has been there for nano router as well but I haven't tried it yet.

Check if you have properly made the bootable usb files or not, also many systems don't allow to boot from USBs by default, you can check for your respective system and enable it in BIOS setting as per your system model.

I was asking if you tried disabling the modchip itself, not changing its settings.

Where did you see Neutrino is more compatible than OPL? Said video's description says Neutrino via UDPBD is 99% compatible with PS2 games but I don't know if that value is accurate.

Unlike what you say, Neutrino also supports FAT32, not only exFAT.

I did and I can boot from USB, but I have the mentioned black screen with an underscore.

Since Neutrino via UDPBD needs more steps (and complicated ones) to work than OPL via UDPBD, it's not worth it. It sucks it doesn't have a GUI unlike OPL. For me, OPL via UDBPD (which already involves commands like Neutrino, but less complicated ones) is already hard to use, let alone Neutrino via UDPBD.

Also, Neutrino doesn't support SMB (which is what I use in OPL) unlike the official OPL versions.

EDIT: Regarding said video, if I boot GParted Live, click "*Other modes of GParted Live" and then "*GParted Live Safe graphics setting (vga=normal)" instead, I can proceed if using the USB flash drive which had the mentioned black screen with an underscore since I no longer have it. I was told in said video that apparently some Nvidia graphics cards have issues with GParted Live (it must be my case). Anyway, after clicking "OK" in both windows regarding licenses after running this command, a new window opens saying:

"An error has occured:

The scirpt was unable to find an exFAT volume or partition.".

I don't know what I did wrong since I created the exFAT partition on GParted Live.

EDIT 2: There's this OPL fork which is a front-end for Neutrino but I don't know how to use it too. I tried XEB+ neutrino Launcher Plugin and I was able to run Neutrino via UDPBD by watching this video but the european The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer second level's first FMV sometimes has no sound when played from the laptop's SSD without enabling any compatibility mode (instead of having a loud buzz-like noise when played on OPL via SMB from the laptop's SSD without enabling any Mode). Besides the game, udpbd-vexfat.exe (which comes with said program [along with udpbd-server.exe] and is ran by it) was on the laptop's SSD too. Also, the mentioned program has to be ran from an USB device connected to the PS2 (the games may be located in the PC's HDD/SSD/SSHD/eMMC/eUFS [for instance] or in an USB device connected to that PC).

EDIT 3: I just noticed Neutrino's GitHub repository says Neutrino doesn't have an user interface and instead it's meant to be integrated as a back-end to a front-end (user interface). Neutrino's GitHub repository also says that Neutrino is a command line application and to get the most out of it the user will need to run it from the Command Prompt (running ps2client on the PC to send commands to ps2link running on the PS2, for instance) and now it also tells that a more user friendly GUI from one of the following third-party loaders can be used but with a limited feature set: said XEB+ neutrino Launcher Plugin, NHDD, RETROLauncher, OSD-XMB and PSBBN + BBNL. Also, I was told Neutrino is compatible with some PS2 games OPL isn't and vice-versa.

EDIT 4: Neutrino's GitHub repository now mentions the speed and device compatibility for the PS2 models and I found this compatibility list for XEB + neutrino Launcher Plugin, and by extension, for the Neutrino back-end that it uses.

EDIT 5: There's an OPL fork called uOPL that has both OPL and Neutrino cores but the UDPBD and HDD (APA) devices are untested (the former [UDPBD] likely needs more work and testers to confirm and the latter [HDD (APA)] seems hit and miss for some games).

EDIT 6: uOPL's development is stalled and uOPL has been superseded by wOPL, which supports SMB instead of UDPBD and also supports MMCE.

EDIT 7: I found this incompatibility list for Neutrino and OPL.

EDIT 8: Neutrino now supports UDPFS which supposedly is as fast and device compatible as UDPBD but XEB+ neutrino Launcher Plugin doesn't support it.

EDIT 9: UDPBD-for-XEBP is a XEB+ neutrino Launcher Plugin fork which is more up-to-date than it and it supports UDPFS.

EDIT 10: I ran the european The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer in wOPL's Neutrino core via SMB but its second level's first FMV sometimes has no sound when played from the laptop's SSD without enabling any compatibility mode.

EDIT 11: I ran the european The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer via UDPFS in UDPBD-for-XEBP but its second level's first FMV has a buzz-like noise when played from the laptop's SSD without enabling any compatibility mode.

EDIT 12: Simple Neutrino Loader is a PS2 game loader that runs on the Enceladus Lua environment. It's another GUI that runs Neutrino and it also supports UDPBD/UDPFS.