Roe V Wade has been repealed

[n00bsaib0t]

What about victims of goddamn broken condoms? What about victims of stealthing? What about people who, like me, are clinically allergic to latex?

There are victims in other ways as well. Like shit you see on TV shows, they didn't just have that idea that's shit that actually happened that they read about. Sadly enough it was on a sitcom so it was framed as being funny, but one of the characters faked getting a vasectomy then knocked up his fiancé. Then people like the one you quoted would tell a woman in that situation that they deserve to be punished with a child for having unprotected sex.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Significantly less than the number of alphabet people?

It's funny you lot think "alphabet people" is an insult of sorts.

 

[Elodain]

Then people like him would tell a woman in that situation that they deserve to be punished with a child for having unprotected sex.

Not really. Not me anyway. Considering she THOUGHT she was safe, she was not intentionally making a bad choice the way Becky did with the high school foot ball team.

It's not her fault the dude lied to her. At that point it would be nice if she carried the child to term, but I could stand with an abortion in that scenario while the guy rots in prison because that's probably a crime.

 

[SyphenFreht]

My point is that everyone should be allowed to have an opinion. This guy's literally arguing that a loving husband shouldn't be entitled to even a fucking opinion on whether his unborn child should live or die.

I don't inherently disagree with you on this; everyone should be allowed to have and their opinion. However, not everyone should be given a platform to voice it on.

And you are coming in twisting it by saying "should a EVIL RAPIST be allowed an opinion, huh? You're PRO RAPE!"

Actually I was implying that your current phrasing of your argument is making you appear that way, hoping you would get the hint and change how you present your arguments (I like to see the good in people). If you're not a rapist sympathizer, I'm sure you'll try to come across a little differently. Otherwise, well... I guess you already called it.

Don't get it completely twisted; when laws like Roe v Wade get overturned it leads to a lot of fucked up pretenses that can be further used to create a terrible system for anyone that isn't a rich white man. The pro rape clause is already spreading like fire through the legal system and further diminishing a woman to a glorified incubator is only going to continue this spiral.

Fuck you with your disingenuous weasling.

*sorrynotsorry

 

[n00bsaib0t]

Not really. Not me anyway. Considering she THOUGHT she was safe, she was not intentionally making a bad choice the way Becky did with the high school foot ball team.

It's not her fault the dude lied to her. At that point it would be nice if she carried the child to term, but I could stand with an abortion in that scenario while the guy rots in prison because that's probably a crime.

Again with the "children a consequence for being stupid" bullshit. I get it, dude. You hate children, and you hate women so you want to punish them with children. Enough.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Not really. Not me anyway. Considering she THOUGHT she was safe, she was not intentionally making a bad choice the way Becky did with the high school foot ball team.

It's not her fault the dude lied to her. At that point it would be nice if she carried the child to term, but I could stand with an abortion in that scenario while the guy rots in prison because that's probably a crime.

The fact that you somehow think sex leads to "faults" and is inherently a "bad choice" for a woman is quite concerning.

 

[mituzora]

My point is that everyone should be allowed to have an opinion. This guy's literally arguing that a loving husband shouldn't be entitled to even a fucking opinion on whether his unborn child should live or die.

And you are coming in twisting it by saying "should a EVIL RAPIST be allowed an opinion, huh? You're PRO RAPE!"

Fuck you with your disingenuous weasling.

Really grasping at straws here. someone uses one argument for pro-choice, and you focus on the "rape" angle. There are plenty of arguments you can focus in on here, but instead, you focus that everyone who is pro-choice is focusing in on the rape aspect.

It's been stated millions of times, but aside from the "it's their body" argument, there's also legiitmate reasons aside from just rape and body autonomy.

Medical reasons: Sometimes you gotta save a life, and why pick the life that can't even take care of itself that doesn't even have any memberance of life over someone who has a full, maybe happy life ahead of them if they choose to live.

Reasons of an unfit parent: There are plenty of people, and i mean PLENTY of people who are definitely unfit to raise a human being. they can barely take care of themselves. and I know Adoption is an option as well, but there's already an overcrowded foster care system, and we don't need to be adding any more unwanted lives to an institution, in of it's own, is kinda fucked up too.

If we are being really primal here: Population control. I don't necessarily believe this is a good argument, but I'm going to state it anyways as it IS an argument. At least in the US, things are becoming more and more difficult to raise a child, especially in lower-economic homes that would largely benefit from abortions in the first place. By forcing birth, we are making things even worse.

 

[SyphenFreht]

Significantly less than the number of alphabet people?

I have yet to see any alphabet people subjugate anyone for any preference. So far I'd rather be surrounded by them than Nazis and Republicans.

 

[Elodain]

The fact that you somehow think sex leads to "faults" and is inherently a "bad choice" for a woman is quite concerning.

Having risky, unprotected sex without birth control and letting four dudes nut inside you when you are not in a position to or want to raise a child is in fact a bad choice no matter how you slice it.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

What is it with lefty's calling people they disagree with white supremasists and Nazi's? Do you think there's loads of people (that aren't mental leftys) walking around in KKK clothes and SS uniforms? Jings that's litterally like me claiming that eveyone that isn't a republican is an Antifa member and a peadophile.

Make sure you check under your bed tonight - there could be a nazi hiding under it.

Because that's what it fucking is. Nazi Germany didn't come out of the blue. They had an extremely decent democratic system. However then fascists grew stronger in their rehetoric when the economy was in a economic down turn. Hitler did a coup failed. Was arrested and then successfully did it on the second try.
He removed people's rights first, he killed his political opposition. And how it all fucking starts, is the removal of people's rights in minority groups.
The Republican party at this point proto Nazi's. With MAGA being the real thing. if someone didn't follow Hitler they died. The party he came out of them, many were executed because the disobeyed one order. Trump straight up said that maybe Mike pence should be hung. He is a facist.
It all starts when your start treating someone as inhuman. And it get's worse when people don't nip it in the bud. Capitalism would give into facism for the short sighted profits than given into any other alternatives
So in other words I'm calling what the kettle is and I'm not going to stop. And nor will my peers. We are not going to go through that atrocity a second time, we don't have the time to go through another genocide by facists.

 

[MadonnaProject]

I'm not the one putting guns above women and children, you numbskull.

I see no falsehoods there. You are illiterate, and have said plenty of idiotic things. Including disputing what Clarence Thomas put in clear writing. So either you didn't understand that because you're illiterate, or you lied. Which one is it? Are you a liar in bad faith or merely stupid?

EDIT; actually, in my first post I reported what clarence thomas wrote, and you denied it was a thing. So once again you're lying. Or you forgot.

No, you just didn't understand what I meant. Don't worry, gay marriage and interracial marriage is not going anywhere. Anyways let's not do this. Bye.

 

[SyphenFreht]

Really grasping at straws here. someone uses one argument for pro-choice, and you focus on the "rape" angle. There are plenty of arguments you can focus in on here, but instead, you focus that everyone who is pro-choice is focusing in on the rape aspect.

It's been stated millions of times, but aside from the "it's their body" argument, there's also legiitmate reasons aside from just rape and body autonomy.

Medical reasons: Sometimes you gotta save a life, and why pick the life that can't even take care of itself that doesn't even have any memberance of life over someone who has a full, maybe happy life ahead of them if they choose to live.

Reasons of an unfit parent: There are plenty of people, and i mean PLENTY of people who are definitely unfit to raise a human being. they can barely take care of themselves. and I know Adoption is an option as well, but there's already an overcrowded foster care system, and we don't need to be adding any more unwanted lives to an institution, in of it's own, is kinda fucked up too.

If we are being really primal here: Population control. I don't necessarily believe this is a good argument, but I'm going to state it anyways as it IS an argument. At least in the US, things are becoming more and more difficult to raise a child, especially in lower-economic homes that would largely benefit from abortions in the first place. By forcing birth, we are making things even worse.

I love every letter of this comment with every fiber of my being.

 

[MadonnaProject]

Having risky, unprotected sex and letting four dudes nut inside you when you are not in a position to or want to raise a child is in fact a bad choice no matter how you slice it.

Exactly. Hence there are cultures with virtually little illegitimacy and abortion.

Guess which these are. Not cariibean, african, mexican, european.

 

[mituzora]

Having risky, unprotected sex and letting four dudes nut inside you when you are not in a position to or want to raise a child is in fact a bad choice no matter how you slice it.

It's funny how automatically, this is where your brain goes. I know a lot of people, and this happens way more often in porn than in real life. and if they do have parties like that, they're typically using protection. You should really research on deviant culture.

 

[n00bsaib0t]

Really grasping at straws here. someone uses one argument for pro-choice, and you focus on the "rape" angle. There are plenty of arguments you can focus in on here, but instead, you focus that everyone who is pro-choice is focusing in on the rape aspect.

It's been stated millions of times, but aside from the "it's their body" argument, there's also legiitmate reasons aside from just rape and body autonomy.

Medical reasons: Sometimes you gotta save a life, and why pick the life that can't even take care of itself that doesn't even have any memberance of life over someone who has a full, maybe happy life ahead of them if they choose to live.

Reasons of an unfit parent: There are plenty of people, and i mean PLENTY of people who are definitely unfit to raise a human being. they can barely take care of themselves. and I know Adoption is an option as well, but there's already an overcrowded foster care system, and we don't need to be adding any more unwanted lives to an institution, in of it's own, is kinda fucked up too.

If we are being really primal here: Population control. I don't necessarily believe this is a good argument, but I'm going to state it anyways as it IS an argument. At least in the US, things are becoming more and more difficult to raise a child, especially in lower-economic homes that would largely benefit from abortions in the first place. By forcing birth, we are making things even worse.

Until it no longer costs 10s of thousands of dollars for the adoption process, and all these conservatives are willing to go bring all the kids in our fucked up broken foster system into their homes, conservatives need to keep the word adoption out of their mouths.

Sadly, my wife and I were looking into adoption once our youngest starts kindergarten (next year) but unless things turn around in the economy (lol) it's not financially viable for us anymore which is sad because I was making $13 in 2019 when we decided we wanted to do that and I'm making $20 now, but that $20 is getting less than $13 was back then.

 

[n00bsaib0t]

No, you just didn't understand what I meant. Don't worry, gay marriage and interracial marriage is not going anywhere. Anyways let's not do this. Bye.

You guys said literally exactly this about Roe v Wade.

 

[mituzora]

Until it no longer costs 10s of thousands of dollars for the adoption process, and all these conservatives are willing to go bring all the kids in our fucked up broken foster system into their homes, conservatives need to keep the word adoption out of their mouths.

Sadly, my wife and I were looking into adoption once our youngest starts kindergarten (next year) but unless things turn around in the economy (lol) it's not financially viable for us anymore which is sad because I was making $13 in 2019 when we decided we wanted to do that and I'm making $20 now, but that $20 is getting less than $13 was back then.

Oh yikes, that's rough. I'm sorry you and your wife had to go through that. But you're absolutely right. People want to argue that adoption is a solution, when those people who argue that (and are typically in a place that they can afford to go that route) typically don't care about those kids.

It's all about the embryo, once it's born, they don't typically give a fuck and blame the parents.. it's rather sickening tbh

 

[XDel]

How about pregnancy complications that are easily treated, but the treatment is, can you guess? Go on. No? Ok, the treatment is abortion. Those people are gonna die easily avoidable deaths for no reason. Oh the reason is it's God's plan? Your god is a real piece of shit then.

Medical technology is so good these days that unsurvivable complications are rare. Also a lot of complications are brought on by how she treats her self while pregnant.

 

[Elodain]

It's funny how automatically, this is where your brain goes.

Considering that's literally how one of the girls at my high school got knocked up, yeah of course my mind goes there. It sticks out when you actually hear people talking about it and you see the girl in question being enraged at them when she is just as responsible for it happening in the first place. It was consensual. There were no drugs and alcohol involved.

Dudes just wanted to run a train and she wanted the train ran on her. Nobody wanted to use protection and she was happy to let all four of them finish inside.

Then she decided to abort the child so she could get back to partying and sleeping around sooner.

 

[n00bsaib0t]

Considering that's literally how one of the girls at my high school got knocked up, yeah of course my mind goes there. It sticks out when you actually hear people talking about it and you see the girl in question being enraged at them when she is just as responsible for it happening in the first place. It was consensual. There were no drugs and alcohol involved.

Dudes just wanted to run a train and she wanted the train ran on her.

Then she decided to abort the child so she could get back to partying and sleeping around sooner.

Okay but this shit is even more rare than rape, and what was the argument from your side about how many abortions are from rape?

Medical technology is so good these days that unsurvivable complications are rare. Also a lot of complications are brought on by how she treats her self while pregnant.

Part of that medical technology is abortion.