U.S. Supreme Court set to overturn Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision

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If you're going to keep this up, at least attempt to argue in the realm of something that can be clinically determined to exist.
The only argument I made about the soul is one that we can determine to exist. Beyond that it's pointless to expect consensus. I'll take note of your frustration.
 
Please. Try harder than "because I said so".

It's literally not because I said so. The words I pointed out refer to actual things. Granted, there is lore, mythos, esoterism surrounding them, but you wouldn't reject the existence of stars and planets for the same reason.

If you are interested in the material aspects, they are there. If you aren't interested in the transcendental aspects, then it wouldn't make much sense to concern yourself with them.
 
They claim to care about human life. But when it comes to wearing the mask they refused to wear the mask and walk in public exposing others to deadly virus that kills people because muh freedom of choice. Yet they want to restrict a women freedom to get abortion. They are inconsistent.
It's just one of many inconsistencies and it's because their entire structure only seems to exist to be defined by what it's not. Modern Conservativism only defines itself as "against Liberalism" and "against The Left," so the entire position makes no sense as a result.
ROFL ... Lacius "Abortion doesn't kill the baby". I think someone needs to do a google search on the results of abortions using the picture search feature.
A fetus isn't a baby and searching up these pictures doesn't change that. The time when an abortion is typically performed is long before a fetus even resembles anything more than a clump of cells. Most abortions that happen later on are typically the result of medical emergencies and is often the last resort to treat the individual. No one gets far enough into a pregnancy where the fetus is literally a complete baby and decides to just have an abortion. Abortion doesn't kill a baby because a fetus isn't a baby.
 
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It's just one of many inconsistencies and it's because their entire structure only seems to exist to be defined by what it's not. Modern Conservativism only defines itself as "against Liberalism" and "against The Left," so the entire position makes no sense as a result.

Here's one. Leftist define themselves as being against the right. Definitely not the other way around.

Wait, the right define themselves as being against the left, not the other way around.

If you cannot see the absurdity, then you will just keep fulfilling the unfulfilling.


My favorite, by @smf. "If nobody disagreed with us, we'd all have arguments about how we agree."

And @The Catboy "A baby isn't a fetus, because it survived abortion. Too bad."

Even though slavery is "abolished", now all people are property of the state, and potential slaves. --13th amendment.
 
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This isn't true unless you are suggesting that there is an agreement on embryonic rights to gestation, which there clearly isn't.
I agree, but I'm not necessarily opposed to an "embryonic right to gestation" as long as a woman's bodily autonomy rights take precedence.
 
Yes, very "servere".

And???? Making a simple typo does not negate the fact that you have very severe reading comprehension issues.


On a side note. I think I'm going to order one of these two shirts today.

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Here's one. Leftist define themselves as being against the right. Definitely not the other way around.

Wait, the right define themselves as being against the left, not the other way around.

If you cannot see the absurdity, then you will just keep fulfilling the unfulfilling.
A "no you" isn't as clever as you think it is and I think the laundry list of inconsistencies in Consertivism proves my point. Claiming to be against "big government" while cheering on "state governments" as they enact big government laws is an inconstancy. Getting butthurt over body autonomy when asked to care about other people, while wanting to remove body autonomy from women, LGBT+ folks, and so on, is a contradiction. Claiming to care about freedom of speech, while attempting to silence minorities is a contradiction. Claiming to support freedom, while wanting to limit medical freedom doesn't make sense. These are just a handful of inconstancies in beliefs that Conservatives hold, many of which were on display in this thread.
 
And???? Making a simple typo does not negate the fact that you have very severe reading comprehension issues.
It disqualifies you as an expert on literacy. Also, I stand by my points. If you have an actual argument, I would entertain them. Don't expect me to bow to your shitty, low-effort, insults.
 
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Sperm has yet to impregnate the egg and can be discarded, as nature intended. There's nothing wrong with discarding semen and it's nowhere comparable to a growing unborn baby regardless of what you claim.

@tabzer - It looks like calling the baby in the mothers womb by other names than a baby and classifying it as a non-human helps these satanic baby killing lunatics deal with the fact they've killed and want to kill human babies. They are pure evil and calling the baby comparable to "cancer", which @Lacius is doing is just wrong on many, many levels.
But sperm is the harbor of life, the seed for what life comes from. At what point does it redefine the difference between when its stored in your testicles and when it ends up in an egg does it consider defending it as an unborn life? There is no weight in this, again the female produces an egg for the sperm to fertilize, its not like these eggs are a life upon themselves. Its simply a means to protect and help its development until it is born as a baby. Its a form of human nature but the responsibility of original life falls on us not them, especially if we ever cross the threshold of technology where we could create artificial eggs and wombs for development without the need of a female needing to bare any responsibility for carrying it. Something that is far more likely in the scope of the near future, would those that would be born of this method be considered protectable or would the be hated by the same pro-life groups because its considered "unnatural"?

Simply said, the sperm is a foreign entity to the female body, an entity that holds life in its very essence for without it life cannot be brought into this world. A woman simply does not produce life, its an acceptance and understanding of what they will have to help produce life by accepting someone's sperm and agreeing to have a child. If this is not the case, or can't be the case for the woman, then they have every right to refuse this and refuse the responsibility especially given the amount of harm and difficulty it could be for them. To not give them the right to reject and refuse means no difference in mind to basically raping them and getting away with it, with them being forced to carry because they no longer have any right to reject, refuse and fight for their own right. You want that to be taken away from them and basically turn them into unwilling tools for procreation. That's just inhuman no matter how you slice it.

Also to go with that other conversation at the bottom there. Tell me what does a miscarriage constitute as? Also don't go throwing around shit like Satanic at shit you dislike, especially since they are far more respectable of a people than I could say for any mainline religions. Less I could very much say to you how typically Christian/Catholic of you to state such of your fellow man, woman and child. After all if you cannot respect the freedom God has given us to advance ourselves and make the choices that we are within our natural power to make happen and possible, you are rejecting his very nature of giving us free will and therefore are against God's will to substitute your own twisted mentality of right and wrong based squarely on the mental gymnastics of morality being used as a weapon rather than a personal guideline for yourself to be an example of being better for yourself and to inspire others to be good for themselves, not to push your shit onto others, even by force. That is the core problem with most modern religion mentality, you got it all wrong.
 
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A "no you" isn't as clever as you think it is and I think the laundry list of inconsistencies in Consertivism proves my point. Claiming to be against "big government" while cheering on "state governments" as they enact big government laws is an inconstancy. Getting butthurt over body autonomy when asked to care about other people, while wanting to remove body autonomy from women, LGBT+ folks, and so on, is a contradiction. Claiming to care about freedom of speech, while attempting to silence minorities is a contradiction. Claiming to support freedom, while wanting to limit medical freedom doesn't make sense. These are just a handful of inconstancies in beliefs that Conservatives hold, many of which were on display in this thread.

Seems you missed my point. I wasn't advocating one side over the other and that was the point.

Maybe it would be more effective if I included the word "literally" somewhere (yeah I'm calling you dumb and you like it).

Now show me where the,"no u" touched you.
 
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It disqualifies you as an expert on literacy. Also, I stand by my points. If you have an actual argument, I would entertain them. Don't expect me to bow to your shitty, low-effort, insults.

A typo is not a literacy issue. It's accidently pressing the wrong button on a tiny phone keyboard. Making false accusations because of reading comprehension issues isn't the same thing whatsoever. LMFAO!
 
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It etymologically defines what a soul is. That's not nonsense. That's historical record.
It's historical record that you and anyone that defines a soul as something that is distinct from the brain, is wrong.

I don't think that's considered "magical". It's something that I cannot prove and it's more of an interesting belief than an actual argument.
It's not an interesting belief, as you cannot prove it then it's faith.

But scientifically you are wrong & trying to say that I'm a sociopath because I don't believe in your faith is crazy talk
 
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The only argument I made about the soul is one that we can determine to exist.
Except you cannot determine that a soul exists as something separate from brain activity.

You can say it exists because you believe it does & in a religious context you will find a lot of people will agree with you, but scientifically it's all just mumbo jumbo.

Claiming to support freedom, while wanting to limit medical freedom doesn't make sense. These are just a handful of inconstancies in beliefs that Conservatives hold, many of which were on display in this thread.
I don't think he cares about supporting freedom, he just wants to annoy you so he can feel good about himself.
 
Pro life: JuST mooove
ah yes I'd like to move or go out of state If it wasn't for the same party now trying to make it illegal to get an abortion out of your main state. Really showing the power of democracy right there.
 
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You know this whole Roe v. Wade things is insane when you have Kotaku reporters mad that the Majority of games companies are staying silent and not getting into politics.

republican party must be destroyed. they are anti-rights and nazi party.
lol

Another fine example of pro-life, anti-baby killing conservatives.

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I guess you don't eat meat? not get me wrong i think killing lions is wrong but not sure how this compares to the current issues been discussed in this place.
 

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