U.S. Supreme Court set to overturn Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision

[Lacius]

Also, I never learned the difference between mob rule and democracy. If you have something for me, it'd be appreciated.

"Mob rule" is what people with unpopular opinions call democracy when things don't go their way.

 

[The Catboy]

"Mob rule" is what people with unpopular opinions call democracy when things don't go their way.

Let's be real here, "mob rule" is literally just a buzzword for shit they don't like. It's up there with "Communism," "Leftist," "the Left," Liberal," and "Democrats." It's literally just another buzzword that has lost all meaning. The fact that I've seen people in this section lump "Liberals" in with "Leftists" shows the kind of smooth brains we are dealing with.

 

[Lacius]

Let's be real here, "mob rule" is literally just a buzzword for shit they don't like. It's up there with "Communism," "Leftist," "the Left," Liberal," and "Democrats." It's literally just another buzzword that has lost all meaning. The fact that I've seen people in this thread lump "Liberals" in with "Leftists" shows the kind of smoothbrains we are dealing with.

I don't blame them. When majorities overwhelmingly support Democratic positions and oppose Republican positions (including 66% opposed to overturning Roe), it makes sense they would become anti-democracy. The 2020 whiners and the Capitol riots almost make sense.

 

[The Catboy]

I don't blame them. When majorities overwhelmingly support Democratic positions and oppose Republican positions (including 66% opposed to overturning Roe), it makes sense they would become anti-democracy. The 2020 whiners and the Capitol riots almost make sense.

"People don't like my shitty opinions anymore. Is it because they are contradictory and outdated? NO! It's the Liberal Left Communist Feminist gays!"

 

[smf]

Removing it and discarding it is at least as ethically comparable as removing a healthy kidney to waste, despite the non-existence of human rights for the developing child.

Cancer cells are very "healthy" too. For the cancer cell, not so much for the host.

Do you think women who miscarry should be tried for manslaughter?

Nothing you do suggests that you are trying to understand other people.

You are making the mistake thinking that if people understand you, then they would agree with you.

 

[Lacius]

Cancer cells are very "healthy" too. For the cancer cell, not so much for the host.

"They're human cells with human DNA, therefore they're human and have rights."
-Anti-abortion logic

 

[KennyAtom]

The 2020 whiners and the Capitol riots almost make sense.

While the capitol riots were really bad and should have never happened, the 2020 whiners line doesn't make sense.


Aren't there always whiners after any election? For example, when Donald Trump won in 2016, I remember a ton of liberals were sobbing and saying they were gonna move to Canada or somewhere else.

 

[Lacius]

While the capitol riots were really bad and should have never happened, the 2020 whiners line doesn't make sense.


Aren't there always whiners after any election? For example, when Donald Trump won in 2016, I remember a ton of liberals were sobbing and saying they were gonna move to Canada or somewhere else.

I'm referring to the idiots shouting about baseless election lies and conspiracy theories, not those who are just bummed out.

The vast majority of Republicans and Trump supporters believe the conspiracy theory that the election was stolen. It'd be funny if it weren't scary.

 

[smf]

The vast majority of Republicans and Trump supporters believe the conspiracy theory that the election was stolen. It'd be funny if it weren't scary.

And if you don't think it's scary that those people get to vote too, then you're one of them.

 

[KennyAtom]

The vast majority of Republicans and Trump supporters believe the conspiracy theory that the election was stolen. It'd be funny if it weren't scary.

It's the main reason that I won't vote for someone as bad as Trump again.

I'm still a conservative, I just think that anyone as diehard as trump cannot be trusted at this point.

his tweets were funny though, you have to admit

 

[Deleted member 559230]

Indeed. Rs seem to be in a good position now since Biden is 162 years old and Kamala Harris is disliked by everyone.

Republicans are in such a good of a position that someone leaked the Roe vs. Wade decision to as a tool to distract the general public from how bad things are right now. The democrats are really desperate, but I'm not going to let a minor distraction like abortion rights make me forgot how shitty things really are under the rule of said democrats. I'm not sure who I'll vote for yet, but it's not looking good for the blue team with their $5.00 a gallon gas, $6.00 a gallon milk and $50 steaks.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

I'm referring to the idiots shouting about baseless election lies and conspiracy theories, not those who are just bummed out.

The vast majority of Republicans and Trump supporters believe the conspiracy theory that the election was stolen. It'd be funny if it weren't scary.

Russia! Russia! Russia! Trump didn't win the 2016 election! Trump didn't win the 2016 election! Trump didn't win the 2016 election!

 

[Lacius]

Russia! Russia! Russia! Trump didn't win the 2016 election! Trump didn't win the 2016 election! Trump didn't win the 2016 election!

Trump won the 2016 election (because of the Electoral College; he didn't win the popular vote), but Russia also meddled in it. Considering how razor thin the Electoral College margin was, it's all but certain the Russian meddling tipped the election in Trump's favor.

 

[Dakitten]

It's the main reason that I won't vote for someone as bad as Trump again.

I'm still a conservative, I just think that anyone as diehard as trump cannot be trusted at this point.

his tweets were funny though, you have to admit

You really don't. =3 It is a dark humor at best, as Trump has moved the party norms to further extremes. More "Diehards" get the focus now.

Republicans are in such a good of a position that someone leaked the Roe vs. Wade decision to as a tool to distract the general public from how bad things are right now. The democrats are really desperate, but I'm not going to let a minor distraction like abortion rights make me forgot how shitty things really are under the rule of said democrats. I'm not sure who I'll vote for yet, but it's not looking good for the blue team with their $5.00 a gallon gas, $6.00 a gallon milk and $50 steaks.

But the Republicans actually are doing it. Kinda hard to make a distraction out of a train wreck several decades in the making, out in the open. If the ruling was going to wait until after the midterms, I might think it possibly a political ploy, but it seems more like activism or outright selling out for capitalism if anything.

Also, we all know who you're voting for, you kinda telegraph your position just a smidge.

 

[Dr_Faustus]

You abort a fetus, not a baby.

I really do think this needs to be once again looked over, because its not considered a baby under any form of fact until after it is in fact born and born alive. Outside of this its a developmental mass that becomes a co-dependent organism. Once it is free and separate of co-dependency then it is no longer a fetus, but in fact a baby.

Now I just wonder how Pro-Lifers feel about tapeworms.

A healthy embryo is an organ of procreation. Removing it and discarding it is at least as ethically comparable as removing a healthy kidney to waste, despite the non-existence of human rights for the developing child.

Healthy eggs are discarded all the time, its called a Menstruation cycle or simply "having a period" if you weren't aware. Also they don't infinitely generate, they are in fact, quite finite. (Menopause anybody?)


I seriously would suggest that anyone suggesting they know what a woman should be expected to do with her body to first actually learn how the female body works. You might be surprised about the amount of differences there are inside and the intricate systems that make up of the reproductive system and the nature of how it all is connected to the general health of a woman. After all its not just a walking, talking birthing chamber.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

I really do think this needs to be once again looked over, because its not considered a baby under any form of fact until after it is in fact born and born alive. Outside of this its a developmental mass that becomes a co-dependent organism. Once it is free and separate of co-dependency then it is no longer a fetus, but in fact a baby.

Now I just wonder how Pro-Lifers feel about tapeworms.


Healthy eggs are discarded all the time, its called a Menstruation cycle or simply "having a period" if you weren't aware. Also they don't infinitely generate, they are in fact, quite finite. (Menopause anybody?)


I seriously would suggest that anyone suggesting they know what a woman should be expected to do with her body to first actually learn how the female body works. You might be surprised about the amount of differences there are inside and the intricate systems that make up of the reproductive system and the nature of how it all is connected to the general health of a woman. After all its not just a walking, talking birthing chamber.

Unborn life is still precious regardless how you want to classify it and your last paragraph might make some people upset because apparently men can also have babies and you're a bigot for pointing out the differences between them and females.

 

[tabzer]

And I didn't will myself into needing your kidney. That doesn't mean the state should be able to force the woman to carry the pregnancy to term, and it doesn't mean the state should be able to force you to give up your kidney.

The fact that keep backing up into this broken analogy shows a lack of understanding of the points raised. I don't know why you keep thinking it was smart to begin with. If there is a god, and god gave you a broken kidney, you would blame god for having a broken kidney. As an advertising atheist, you'd probably simultaneously blame god while not believing in god. Your mother issues are beginning to shine through.

"Mob rule" is what people with unpopular opinions call democracy when things don't go their way

Yes, that's true. Also I've never seen a real democracy. Do you have one that you can show me?

Cancer cells are very "healthy" too. For the cancer cell, not so much for the host.

You got me, embryos are cancer.

You are making the mistake thinking that if people understand you, then they would agree with you.

The mistake is in assuming that some people have the faculties for understanding. Does a sociopath understand empathy? Have you ever become more intelligent in all your years here? Does Lacius admit when he is wrong?

Those are rhetorical. Please don't respond.

Healthy eggs are discarded all the time, its called a Menstruation cycle or simply "having a period" if you weren't aware. Also they don't infinitely generate, they are in fact, quite finite. (Menopause anybody?)

If you were reading what I wrote, and that was your first thought, you don't have the attention span for this. Take a seat.

 

[Lacius]

The fact that keep backing up into this broken analogy shows a lack of understanding of the points raised.

It isn't a broken analogy just because you are unwilling (or unable) to understand and accept it. Feel free to point out the problem with it.

If there is a god, and god gave you a broken kidney, you would blame god for having a broken kidney. As an advertising atheist, you'd probably simultaneously blame god while not believing in god.

If a god exists and gave me a broken kidney, that god would deserve some blame, yeah. I do not believe gods exist, so I wouldn't blame imaginary beings for my problems. I'm not sure what this has to do with anything though. Having a broken kidney isn't analogous to being pregnant. Being forced to donate a healthy kidney to someone who needs it is analogous to being forced to carry a fetus to term.

You got me, embryos are cancer.

If the pregnancy is unwanted, it can be analogous to cancer.

Does Lacius admit when he is wrong?

I admit when I'm wrong. It just happens very infrequently here. You and others like you make it very difficult to be wrong, to be fair.

 

[tabzer]

It isn't a broken analogy just because you are unwilling (or unable) to understand and accept it. Feel free to point out the problem with it.

It doesn't account for the point that you needing my kidney is somehow a condition I created for you, where an embryo has only god (their mother) to blame for their condition.

If the pregnancy is unwanted, it can be analogous to cancer.

That's not profound. People call things they don't like cancer all of the time.

I admit when I'm wrong. It just happens very infrequently here. You and others like you make it very difficult to be wrong, to be fair.

A rhetorical question for someone else doesn't make it non-rhetorical (or a question) for you. Just because you may have done it before doesn't mean that it is something you do.

 

[Lacius]

It doesn't account for the point that you needing my kidney is somehow a condition I created for you, where an embryo has only god (their mother) to blame for their condition.

This is irrelevant. We could change the example to say a kid needs a kidney, and the kid's estranged biological father he has never met is the only compatible donor. Should the state legally force the father to donate his kidney? The answer is "no." Nothing should violate a person's right to bodily autonomy, and it would set a dangerous precedent if the state had any say over what you could legally do to your own body.

That's not profound. People call things they don't like cancer all of the time.

I don't care that people use the word "cancer" in reference to things they don't like. An unwanted pregnancy (i.e. something unwanted growing in your body that you want removed that may have everlasting negative effects on your body and could even kill you) is analogous to cancer.