Homebrew [NDS] Forwarder CIAs for your HOME Menu

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Trying to make forwarded games use TWL-speed, but no dice despite adding in settings like "NTRCLOCK" or "BOOST_CPU" on ntr_forwarder.ini and nds-bootstrap.ini.

EDIT: Something else to mention is that no matter how much I try to edit the ini-files, they always get overwritten - I'm thus unable to access TWL-speed. :huh:

Any help here?

i am running into the exact same issue on the current version. boosted clock speed works fine through twilight menu but constantly gets reset to 0 in bootstrap.ini whenever i change it, making sonic rush really slow.
i'm on a new 2ds xl with sd card. any ideas?
 
the urbz usa | no | unplayable but touchscreen is unsupported. unplayable.

This software is free. This is software is work in progress. you need to be more clear with your problems. tell us your setup. if its a clean rom. have you done anything else.

Not demand like the devs owe you something. You have be demanding all over the place. It would not be fixed in a hour, day or even months. be patient.

Thank you.
 
i've just tried using the new forwarder everyone's talking about but am running into the same issue (cpu boost keeps reseting itself to 0) as with the topic one. this is really annoying and any help would be appreciated! some kind of documentation for the nds-bootstrap would be especially helpful.

also, is there any way to edit replies here? i would've kept everything to one post if i knew how to do that.
 
i've just tried using the new forwarder everyone's talking about but am running into the same issue (cpu boost keeps reseting itself to 0) as with the topic one. this is really annoying and any help would be appreciated! some kind of documentation for the nds-bootstrap would be especially helpful.
It's actually supposed to be set to 1 by default, with 0 being set for certain games, as there's a TWL clock speed blacklist in place.
Try re-following Part 1.1 of the guide.
If it's still set to 0 for all games, then I have no clue as to why that happens, so you'll have to use TWiLight Menu++ instead, as the forwarders aren't updated as often.
also, is there any way to edit replies here? i would've kept everything to one post if i knew how to do that.
Yes. Click "Tools", and you'll see the option to edit your post.
 
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It's actually supposed to be set to 1 by default, with 0 being set for certain games, as there's a TWL clock speed blacklist in place.
Try re-following Part 1.1 of the guide.
If it's still set to 0 for all games, then I have no clue as to why that happens, so you'll have to use TWiLight Menu++ instead, as the forwarders aren't updated as often.

Yes. Click "Tools", and you'll see the option to edit your post.

thank you for the reply!
i re-downloaded and re-applied the forwarder pack and changed the boost to 1 but still no dice.
i did notice something though: the clock boost does actually seem to work with pokemon soulsilver (stays set to 1), so the problem might be specific to sonic rush. this makes it seem like sonic rush is one of the games on the blacklist you mentioned, but that doesn't really make sense, as the game runs awful without the boost, and i had no issues playing it with it. is there somwhere i can check the blacklist (edit: it is)? and if it's on it, how do i disable it?

also, just to make sure, this is how the ini file is supposed to look like after i've launched an nds game, right?
[NDS-BOOTSTRAP]
NDS_PATH = sd:/roms/nds/Sonic Rush (USA) (En,Ja,Fr,De,Es,It).nds
SAV_PATH = sd:/roms/nds/saves/Sonic Rush (USA) (En,Ja,Fr,De,Es,It).sav
BOOST_CPU = 0
DEBUG = 0
LOCK_ARM9_SCFG_EXT = 0
BOOST_VRAM = 0
DSI_MODE = 0
CACHE_FAT_TABLE = 0
LANGUAGE = -1
REGION = -2
CARD_READ_DMA = 1
ASYNC_CARD_READ = 0
DONOR_SDK_VER = 0
PATCH_MPU_REGION = 0
PATCH_MPU_SIZE = 0
CONSOLE_MODEL = 2



EDIT: i've found the blacklist and bingo, sonic rush is on it. is there some way to take it off of it or disable it completely without having to rebuild the entire thing for myself? i get that it's probably on there for a reason but i'm willing to take the risk.
 
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thank you for the reply!
i re-downloaded and re-applied the forwarder pack and changed the boost to 1 but still no dice.
i did notice something though: the clock boost does actually seem to work with pokemon soulsilver (stays set to 1), so the problem might be specific to sonic rush. this makes it seem like sonic rush is one of the games on the blacklist you mentioned, but that doesn't really make sense, as the game runs awful without the boost, and i had no issues playing it with it. is there somwhere i can check the blacklist? and if it's on it, how do disable it?

also, just to make sure, this is how the ini file is supposed to look like after i've launched an nds game, right?
[NDS-BOOTSTRAP]
NDS_PATH = sd:/roms/nds/Sonic Rush (USA) (En,Ja,Fr,De,Es,It).nds
SAV_PATH = sd:/roms/nds/saves/Sonic Rush (USA) (En,Ja,Fr,De,Es,It).sav
BOOST_CPU = 0
DEBUG = 0
LOCK_ARM9_SCFG_EXT = 0
BOOST_VRAM = 0
DSI_MODE = 0
CACHE_FAT_TABLE = 0
LANGUAGE = -1
REGION = -2
CARD_READ_DMA = 1
ASYNC_CARD_READ = 0
DONOR_SDK_VER = 0
PATCH_MPU_REGION = 0
PATCH_MPU_SIZE = 0
CONSOLE_MODEL = 2
Yes.

As for Sonic Rush, it's on the blacklist, because TWL clock speed is known to cause the game to crash later on in gameplay.
If you want to run it with TWL clock speed, you'll need to use TWiLight Menu++ to launch it with TWL clock speed set in the per-game settings.
 
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Yes.

As for Sonic Rush, it's on the blacklist, because TWL clock speed is known to cause the game to crash later on in gameplay.
If you want to run it with TWL clock speed, you'll need to use TWiLight Menu++ to launch it with TWL clock speed set in the per-game settings.

understandable. thanks a lot for the help!
 
The urbz [YES] Works. no errors with a touchscreen.
Bleach dark souls [NO (1)] Doesn't Work + super jittery save file.
Rayman DS USA [YES] Works
MarioKart DS [YES] Works
 
NOTE: For a way to make forwarders for SD ROMs on your 3DS console, please follow this guide.

Remember the old days of having forwarder channels on your Wii that boots games from your USB drive or SD Card? :yaywii:
Ever wanted a way of launching full DS games like digital titles in your 3DS HOME Menu or DSi Menu? Well now you can!
In this tutorial, you can make forwarders that boots NDS ROMs from an SD Card (or if you want, a DS-mode flashcard).

Remember to please read the FAQs, if you have any issues.

Requirements

DSi:
  • GodMode9i
  • Unlaunch
  • hiyaCFW
  • TMFH (Title Manager for Hiya)
  • An SD Card
  • (Optional) DS-Mode flashcard (aka, Slot-1 to microSD card adapter)
3DS:
  • GodMode9
  • A CFW that patches TWL_FIRM (Luma3DS)
  • A CIA installer (FBI, DevMenu, etc)
  • An SD Card (or microSD card for N3DS)
  • (Optional) DS-Mode flashcard (aka, Slot-1 to microSD card adapter)
PC:
  • x64 version of your OS (May be needed for Windows)
  • Forwarder3-DS. Scroll down for the download.

The recommended flashcards are DSTT and Acekard 2i (and R4 Ultra too, since that's an ak2i clone).
If you want perfect game compatibility, get the SuperCard DSTWO/DSTWO PLUS. The only downside is that it drains your system battery faster.

If you have a flashcard that works with @Apache Thunder's NTR Launcher, fell free to request it here.
Be sure to specify which build you're using (Normal or Alt), and if RESETSLOT1 is set to 0 or 1 in "sd:/nds/ntr_launcher.ini".


Compatible:
Acekard 2(i) (DSi-Enhanced games, including newer NTR games, don't work.)
Acekard RPG
DSTT
DSTT Advance
Galaxy Eagle
M3 DS Real
M3 DS Simply (uses <2GB microSD card)
R4 DS (Original Non-SDHC version, uses <2GB microSD card)
R4 SDHC Snoopy
R4 SDHC RTS LITE (www.r4isdhc.com)
R4 SDHC Upgrade (www.r4i-sdhc.com)
R4i3D (www.r4i3d.com)
R4iDSN
R4i Gold
R4i Gold RTS (www.r4ids.cn)
R4i-SDHC (www.r4i-sdhc.com) (Normal and RTS versions)
R4iTT (www.r4itt.net) (Purple card may be incompatible)
SuperCard DSONE
SuperCard DSTWO (Normal and Plus versions)

Untested:
R4i3D NEW (Use R4iDSN template and pack)

Partially compatible:
Ace 3DS+(Game compatibility is bad, so saving/loading save file results in crashing.)
Gateway Blue Card (Game compatibility is bad, so saving/loading save file results in crashing.)
EX4DS (Game compatibility is bad, so saving/loading save file results in crashing.)
R4iLS (Game compatibility is bad, so saving/loading save file results in crashing.)
Cards with www.r4isdhc.com.cn (Game compatibility is bad, so saving/loading save file results in crashing.)

Incompatible:
CycloDS (i)Evolution (Can autoboot ROMs, but it works differently than other flashcards.)
(i)Edge (Unable to autoboot a .nds ROM)
R4 Gold Pro (www.r4i-gold.com/www.r4i-gold.me) (YSMenu (not the forwarder process) bricks the card)
R4i3D (2012)
R4 Infinity Dual Core
R4 SDHC
R4 SDHC Dual-Core (www.r4isdhc.com) (YSMenu (not the forwarder process) bricks the card)

Windows only:
  • Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 SP1 Redistributable
Windows/Linux/Mac:
  • Java 8 Update 251 (Thanks to @djwyman for finding this out)
  • Java SE Development Kit 8u281 (Thanks to @RoyalTea for finding this out)
  • Local language set to English
  • Linux: JavaFX

SD Card users: See what games work and what doesn't work:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LRTkXOUXraTMjg1eedz_f7b5jiuyMv2x6e_jY_nyHSc/edit#gid=0


Download:
Forwarder3-DS (Current version: v2.9.6 - Template Update August 11, 2021)

also, check out:
Banner icon replacements for your forwarders! (Custom ones included)
For hacks/translations of DSi-Enhanced games, find a fixed banner above.

Source code for the templates (not needed):
https://github.com/RocketRobz/NTR_Launcher/tree/forwarder


Instructions
NOTE: If you don't see any tabs below, try clearing your browser cache.

Part 1.1: Getting started (SD Card)Part 1.2: Getting started (Flashcard)Part 2: Getting the AP-fix pack from TWiLight Menu++ (Skip, if the app is already installed)Part 3.1: GodMode9 (3DS)Part 3.2: GodMode9i (DSi)Part 4: Forwarder3-DS


  1. Do these steps. Forwarders will not work, if you don't do them.
    1. Download this for 3DS, or this for DSi.
    2. In the 7z file, extract what's in "for SD card root" to the root of the SD card.

    After you extract the pack for your card, you can edit "sd:/_nds/nds-bootstrap.ini" and change one of the settings.
    • BOOST_CPU: If set to 1, TWL clock speed is used, so lags begone.
    • SOUND_FREQ: If set to 1, sound will play at 48khz, instead of 32khz.
    • LANGUAGE: If set to -1, the system language will be used.
    • REGION: If set to -2, the DSiWare game's region will be used instead of the system's.

  2. Do these steps. Forwarders will not work, if you don't do them.
    If you don't have a flashcard, you can skip this part.

    1. Download one of these packs.
    Original R4/M3 Simply
    Acekard 2(i)/M3DS Real
    DSTT/R4i Gold/R4i-SDHC/R4 SDHC Upgrade/SC DSONE
    Acekard RPG
    R4iDSN/R4i Gold RTS/R4i Gold 3DS Plus
    Ace 3DS+/Gateway Blue Card/R4iLS/R4iTT
    SC DSTWO

    2. In the 7z file, extract what's in "for Slot-1 microSD" to the root of the flashcard's microSD card, and (if folder exists) "for 3DS SD card" to the root of the 3DS SD card.

    What will be in each pack for loading ROMs:
    Original R4/M3 Simply - WoodR4 & YSMenu
    DSTT/R4i Gold/R4i-SDHC/R4 SDHC Dual-Core/R4 SDHC Upgrade/SC DSONE, Acekard 2(i)/M3DS Real/R4i-SDHC 1.4.x - YSMenu
    Acekard RPG, Ace 3DS+/Gateway Blue Card/R4iLS/R4iTT, R4iDSN/R4i Gold RTS - WoodR4

    After you extract the pack for your card, you can edit "sd:/nds/ntr_forwarder.ini" and change one of the settings. This isn't possible for Acekard RPG, R4 DS, and R4i Gold RTS.
    • NTRCLOCK: If set to 0 or if A is held, the DSi boot screen will appear instead of the normal DS splash, and TWL clock speed is used, so lags begone.
    • DISABLEANIMATION: If set to 1 or if B is held, the DS/DSi boot screen is skipped.
    • HEALTHSAFETYMSG: If set to 1, the boot screen's H&S message will appear on the bottom screen. If set to 0, the bottom screen stays white with no H&S message.

    1. Download the latest TWiLight Menu++ version here. Only get the `3DS.7z` file.
    2. In the 7z file, go to "_nds", "TWiLightMenu", and "extras".
    3. Drag the "apfix.pck" file to "sd:/_nds/ntr-forwarder/".

  3. (Skip, if you already have the ROM(s) you need)
    1. Make sure you have your DS game cart inserted.
    2. Hold START on boot to bring up the payload selection menu.
    3. Select GodMode9.
    4. At [root], select GAMECART.
    5. Copy the .nds or _trim.nds file to anywhere on your SD card.
    6. When you're done dumping your ROMs, power off the system.

  4. (Skip, if you already have the ROM(s) you need)
    1. Make sure you have your DS game cart inserted.
    2. Select GAMECART
    3. Press A to dump the full ROM, or press Y to dump the trimmed ROM.
    4. When you're done dumping your ROMs, power off the system.


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    NOTE: If it doesn't start...

    1. Select the target card you're using on the left.
      NOTE: If you don't see a list of cards, download a zip file here, and put "forwarders" in the same folder as the .jar file, and rename "forwarders" to ".forwarders".
    2. Turn on "Automatically set ROM path" to set the path to where your ROM is at in the SD Card or flashcard.
      Linux users: The automatic path is incorrect since it includes the entire path (e.g. /media/$USER/something/). Please remove that part.
      MacOS users: The automatic path is incorrect since it includes "/Volumes/(cardname)/" at the start. Please remove that part.
    3. DSi users: Turn on "Keep .NDS files".
    4. Click the folder on the top-right, and find the ROMs on the SD Card (or flashcard) you are using, or drag and drop them (from the SD card or flashcard, not the PC) into the window.
    5. SD card users: If your DS game's save file is in the same folder as the ROM, move it to a folder called "saves", which should be made in the same location as the ROM.
    6. If you're playing a hack/translation of a DSi-Enhanced game that has it's banner/title edited, find the banner for the game above, right click on the game in Forwarder3-DS, click "Import banner", and click on the banner to use.
    7. If using a homebrew ROM, click on it, then clear and type in the game title.
    8. Click the floppy drive button to generate the forwarder!

    Finalization (DSi):
    1. Copy the NDS file made by the application, to your DSi SD Card.
    2. Install the forwarder NDS file using TMFH.

    Finalization (3DS):
    1. Copy the CIA to your 3DS SD Card, or put it in Boop for network installation.
    2. Install the CIA(s). If using EmuNAND, install it to both Sys & Emu NANDs.

    You are now done! Enjoy playing your games through your forwarders! :nds: :yay3ds:



Here's a video tutorial and a forwarder in action! (This was before we were able to run retail ROMs from SD Card.)


Credits:
@Olmectron, for making Forwarder3-DS.
Me, for creating the Auto-Boot ROM Path setter for DSTT/R4i Gold/R4i-SDHC/R4 SDHC Dual-Core/R4 SDHC Upgrade/SC DSONE, Acekard 2(i)/R4iTT, and DSTWO.
@ahezard, for making the R4/M3, Acekard RPG, R4iDSN/R4i Gold RTS forwarder templates, and nds-bootstrap.
@Apache Thunder, for recreating the DS/DSi boot screen.
@MasterCheese, for helping me getting the Ace3DS Plus, Gateway Blue Card, and cards with www.r4isdhc.com.cn to work.


FAQs:

Q (Linux users): Why is Forwarder3-DS not starting?
A: JavaFX isn't installed. Please install JavaFX.

Q: How do I fix this error: Could not find or load main class com.olmectron.forwarder.Forwarder3DS
A: You need to install JavaFX version 8.
(credit to @Cosmopool)

Q for 3DS users: I'm not getting a CIA, just a .nds file. Why?
A1: Because you are using an x86 PC. The included make_cia build does not work on x86 PCs, and only works on x64 PCs.
If you still want to run DS games, please follow this guide (for 3DS), or use TWiLight Menu++ instead.
A2: The ROM filename might be too long. Try shortening it.
A3 (Linux and MacOS users): make_cia does not have the required rights. Execute chmod +x make_cia in the terminal on the .jar file's directory, so that make_cia gets the needed rights to be executed.

Q: When clicking the button to generate a forwarder, no window appears. How do I fix this?
A: Unfortunately, I don't know how to fix this.
Again, if you still want to run DS games, please follow this guide (for 3DS), or use TWiLight Menu++ instead.

Q: The icon for the forwarded DSiWare doesn't animate. How do I fix this?
A: Use NDSForwarder on your 3DS instead of Forwarder3-DS to create forwarders.

Q: Why is the banner/title blank?
A: Make sure your ROM's .nds filename is short, and/or create Forwarder3-DS folder in your hard drive (or flash drive) root, and run the .jar file there.

Q: How do I delete the blank forwarder(s)?
A for DSi users: Use TMFH to delete the forwarder.
A for 3DS users: In FBI, delete the title(s) that start with "00048004".

Q:
How do I update the forwarder templates?
A: The app will automatically update the templates if it's set, or you can click the button next to the Forwarder3-DS title, and click "Update templates".

Q: How do I get rid of lag on games?
A: Hold A before the DS boot screen appears, or open "sd:/nds/ntr_forwarder.ini" ("sd:/_nds/nds-bootstrap.ini for SD card users) and set
NTRCLOCK (BOOST_CPU for nds-bootstrap.ini) to 0 (1 for nds-bootstrap.ini) to use TWL clock speed.

Q: Why aren't some of my forwarders appearing?
A: You went over the 40 DSiWare game limit. Copy any DSiWare/forwarder you don't use, to your SD Card, and delete it from System Memory.

Q for 3DS users: Will the game I'm playing show up in Activity Log?
A: Yes it will!

Q: What games are DSi Enhanced (and/or has animated banners)?
A: Look here.

Q: Why am I taken to a ROM selection menu?
A: Make sure "Games are on SD card" was checked, and you dragged and dropped the ROMs from the flashcard's microSD, to Forwarder3-DS' window.

Q: Can I run DSi-Enhanced games in DSi mode on flashcards?
A: Nope, this is not possible, as flashcards only run in DS mode.

Q: How do I use cheat codes?
A: Use a program called DSATM, or use TWiLight Menu++ instead of the forwarders.

Q: I'm getting a top black screen and a bottom white screen, or a black screen with a "Start failed" error message. How do I fix this?
A: Make sure "Automatically set ROM path" is enabled, and that the ROM was dragged from the SD card, and not from the PC, into Fowarder3-DS while making your forwarder(s).
If you already done that, then please re-download the SD forwarder pack.
If you already done that, then make sure there's a "saves" folder in the forwarded ROM's location.
If all fails, then use TWiLight Menu++ instead.

R4 DS/M3 DS Simply, R4iDSN/Acekard RPG/R4i Gold RTS:

Q: Why are some of my games getting white screens?
A: The forwarders are based on an outdated version of Wood, which had it's source code found. The version used has bad compatibility with some games. Open _wfwd/wfwd.ini, and set useLatestWood to 1.


DSTT/R4i Gold/R4i-SDHC/R4 SDHC Dual-Core/R4 SDHC Upgrade/SC DSONE, M3DS Real:

Q: Why does my game freeze sometimes?
A: The game has Anti-Piracy checks. YSMenu is supposed to fix that, but won't for some reason.

Q: Launching the CIA just takes me to the ROM selection menu. How do I fix that?
A: Delete or rename any existing YSMenu.ini file in the YSMenu and root folders/directories.

Q: How do I skip to the ROM selection menu?
A: When booting YSMenu, hold B to go to the ROM selection menu.

Q: Why am I getting:
[Rom Loading failed]
load rom errcode=-
Please reset system.
A: Look at the YSMenu error code guide.

Can someone link a .bat file or .exe file of forwarder3-DS because i can't install java
 
I am playing Pokemon Black2 using the forwarder and am running into a problem when opening a pokemon's summary. Whenever I press summary from the party menu it causes the game to freeze. The screen stays black and I have to press the home menu to close the game. I
 
I am playing Pokemon Black2 using the forwarder and am running into a problem when opening a pokemon's summary. Whenever I press summary from the party menu it causes the game to freeze. The screen stays black and I have to press the home menu to close the game. I
Did you follow Part 2 in the first post, or is TWiLight Menu++ installed?
If either, make sure you're running a clean ROM, and not a ROM hack.
If you get the same result, re-follow Part 1.1 (and maybe Part 2 as well).
 
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Did you follow Part 2 in the first post, or is TWiLight Menu++ installed?
If either, make sure you're running a clean ROM, and not a ROM hack.
If you get the same result, re-follow Part 1.1 (and maybe Part 2 as well).
I already had TwiLight Menu installed and updated, since there was an update 2 days ago. I redid part 1.1 and that seemed to help. Than you!
 
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Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there a way to set a specific aspect ratio for certain games with this forwarder? I'd like most of my games to be in 4:3, but I have a widescreen patch for Mario Kart that only works in 16:10.
thanks
 
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