Has Nintendo lost it's charm?

[Deleted member 560282]

This can be kinda of a polemic question_statement, but, recently I started to ask myself that question. Don't get me wrong, I love Nintendo, their characters, games, a lot of their consoles, and they have always being a synonymous of quality in my book (With some noticeable exceptions).
But the more time it passes, the more I feel their new games just aren't nearly as attractive as before, and most of the time I just get bored of them after a few hours of playing (With some exceptions like New Horizons for example).
A lot of the time, If I choose to play a Nintendo game, 90% of the time is going to be one from an old generation of consoles, probably N64 or Gamecube, cause the new games, while having prettier graphics and textures, they just feel.... boring.

Does somebody else feels this way too? I will like to hear people's opinion about this topic. And please, try to be civil about this. Thank you

 

[ScarletDreamz]

Thats probably growing up / nostalgia.
Your gaming taste probably changed, But is ok, I keep going to the same game since 2007.

 

[Deleted member 560282]

Thats probably growing up / nostalgia.
Your gaming taste probably changed, But is ok, I keep going to the same game since 2007.

That is a possibility, in the end it was the generation of games I practically grow up with. But I'm also interested if somebody has another perspective about this topic

 

[Kwyjor]

Ceave Gaming has done some rather thoughtful videos on how Nintendo has changed in recent times. He's a teensy bit pretentious sometimes, his videos are probably longer than they should be, and no doubt a lot of it is wild speculation that could easily be undone by developments in the years to come. But he makes some interesting points.

 

[ocai0]

What @ScarletDreamz said it's true. These old games will be ever the memory of the good time you had discovering and experiencing this new world. But in my view i sense the gamming industry is now like any other industry: the games had been turned in products. I'm not saying that in the past the games released wasn't products as well, but i sense the relation of a company with his public back then was a lot more intimate then now. I feel that the gamming community it's getting more and more serious about their games. It's not wrong but it's something that can make the industry fear to experiment and fail, after all everyone will point at you. Games is now VERY profitable, and for good or bad, every company wants gains.
I remember playing and been enchanted with the games in the 4 Gen, 5 Gen and 6 Gen, and i have seen now, the only games that caused feelings like these came from the indie scenario. Shovel Knight, Cross Code, Momodora 4, The Messenger and A Short Hike are some of the examples that hit me the same way as Super Mario World, Downhill Domination, Crash and Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 when i was young.
One of the big motives i have a game collection at home isn't to say that i have all the consoles, but to recover the old feeling that i had years ago.

 

[jimbo13]

Total Nintendo fanboi, but one Zelda and one Metroid every 5-10 years isn't enough anymore for me to make sure the consoles on myself.

 

[SAIYAN48]

Yep. All about the money now.

 

[godreborn]

I don't think so, but I would admit that Nintendo has been doing as little as possible with the switch: features, amiibos, ports, etc. it may be because they don't have to, because the system is breaking records as is. it sucks for me, as a legit user.

 

[Xzi]

I'm gonna go ahead and say...kinda. Mario Odyssey felt like a complete game that was just as charming as Sunshine, but OTOH a lot of the new Mario spin-offs (sports games, etc) feel half as feature complete as their Gamecube-era counterparts, and don't seem to have as much personality either. That applies to other IPs too, like Animal Crossing and Pokemon. It certainly makes a lot of WiiU ports look better by comparison.

 

[Deleted member 560282]

That applies to other IPs too, like Animal Crossing and Pokemon. It certainly makes a lot of WiiU ports look better by comparison.

I gotta say, Animal Crossing New Horizons looks gorgeous in my opinion, but I gotta admit that comparing it with New Leaf, it lacks a ton of content and replayability, hoping the Miles + would do the trick to keep the player playing daily

 

[Xzi]

I gotta say, Animal Crossing New Horizons looks gorgeous in my opinion, but I gotta admit that comparing it with New Leaf, it lacks a ton of content and replayability, hoping the Miles + would do the trick to keep the player playing daily

Yeah by "look better" I mean they have more content and more of that classic Nintendo charm. All the animals in New Horizons have fairly generic, friendly personalities. That alone wouldn't be such a bad thing, but we also don't have a lot of ways of interacting with each of them as individuals, and that made the game stale for me after a few months. They seem just as resistant to change for AC as they are with Pokemon.

 

[Deleted member 546149]

I mean, somewhat.
The Nintendo Switch didn't feel special.
The games are meh but Nintendo hasn't fully lost their charm as proven by Super Mario Oddysee and BOTW

 

[DKB]

Yes. Them as a whole just feel outdated.

 

[Deleted member 560282]

Yeah by "look better" I mean they have more content and more of that classic Nintendo charm. All the animals in New Horizons have fairly generic, friendly personalities. That alone wouldn't be such a bad thing, but we also don't have a lot of ways of interacting with each of them as individuals, and that made the game stale for me after a few months. They seem just as resistant to change for AC as they are with Pokemon.

I'm still salty you can't invite villagers to your house anymore

 

[Deleted member 546149]

I'm still salty you can't invite villagers to your house anymore

@Arekkusuda do you have any other games you feel that lost its charm?

 

[magypsy3]

Iwata years were the best. Now some games may look gorgeous but are boring, yes.
3D world had so many more details very cool, for example, when you see a music note and collect them, it will play a music the way you capture them and Odyssey won't... there are too many moons to collect and the levels are not very cool.

Breath of the Wild is cool but it doesn't feel like Zelda.

Luigi's Mansion 1 is sooo fun to play and Luigi's Mansion 3 is kinda childish and long.

 

[Deleted member 560282]

Luigi's Mansion 1 is sooo fun to play and Luigi's Mansion 3 is kinda childish and long.

Right? I thought I was the only one who thought Luigi's Mansion 3 wasn't as good as the first one, it was boring and the ghost didn't stand up for me

@Arekkusuda do you have any other games you feel that lost its charm?

Kirby Star Alies just felt empty, like, most of the last Kirby games. Like I said before, Luigi's Mansion 3 wasn't the greatest for me, AND DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED WITH THE PAPER MARIO GAMES

 

[The Real Jdbye]

That's just what happens when we grow up, as kids everything is new and exciting, as adults we've seen everything before and it takes a lot more to amaze us. As a kid you have far less games to choose from as well, meaning you are going to keep playing the ones you have over and over, even if they're shovelware because it's all you've got.

I return to my favorite retro games a lot and often prefer it over playing something new, part of that is probably due to nostalgia, but I also feel like returning to a game I've played before I know exactly what I'm getting and I know it's going to be good, it feels less risky than playing something new that will probably not end up getting me hooked (because I am picky with games and get bored quickly unless I get hooked) and that's why I often prefer it.

Pokemon has lost a lot of its charm, but that blame is not on Nintendo alone, they only own 1/3 of it. Mario and Zelda's most recent iterations were excellent with plenty of charm, especially Mario Odyssey, so Nintendo are definitely capable of making games like that still. But they have gotten a lot more cash grabby and put out a lot of simpler/lazier titles these days and charging the same full retail price for them, which are still decent games but they're missing that something special, and certainly aren't worth the asking price when compared to Mario Odyssey or Zelda BotW.

 

[CoolMe]

Kirby Star Alies just felt empty, like, most of the last Kirby games..

The 3DS releases Triple Deluxe & Planet Robobot were great IMO, while Extra Epic Yarn was more of the same thing (the Wii version) but still decent. Some feel that these games are too easy and pose no real challenge at all, well that's not the point at all of the Kirby games..
As for the topic, it goes without saying that nostalgia plays some role here, memories being a kid experiencing these games for the first time and being enamored with how the game plays/looks and the possibilities of what you can do, that feeling sticks with us because the level of excitement/joy had an imprint on our minds, that's what video game experience is.

Now nothing surprises us anymore, almost everything has been done one way/shape or form, specially as adults, we've played many games over the years, some are great, decent, or terrible. Rarily things are shaken up just enough to be both innovative/original & fun. Also the over-saturation in the market of FPS/open world/ battle royal style games in these recent years, the copy & paste formula of these types, both hinders/makes devlopers to not take chances in trying something new/original, and instead go with the current fad.

 

[Kwyjor]

The 3DS releases Triple Deluxe & Planet Robobot were great IMO, while Extra Epic Yarn was more of the same thing (the Wii version) but still decent. Some feel that these games are too easy and pose no real challenge at all, well that's not the point at all of the Kirby games..

The True Arena in Robobot is f'n brutal. The Kirby games do a good job of presenting a challenge to those who want one, I think.