Covid-19 vaccine

[WG481]

https://www.news.com.au/world/coron...com.au&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_content=Social Bakers

Oh dear. Another death linked to the vaccine in Australia. So far the vaccine has killed more people this year than the "deadly" virus itself in Australia.

Actually, the vaccine ingredients within it combined with her pre-existing condition, which she should've checked on. That vaccine wasn't made correctly, and thus, it messed with her blood clotting condition. Did you read past the headline?

But they DO show you that big pharma lies and they are not trustworthy. I'm still on the fence about you being a sarcastic troll or if you truly believe everything the lügenpresse throws your way.

Here's another example of your CDC lying: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study

I also loved how the CDC lowered the Ct for PCR tests because they knew it was too high and inflated the numbers.

https://washingtonwatch.org/caught-...holds-to-virtually-eliminate-new-covid-cases/

Say, can you provide me with a SINGLE (and scientifically/medically verifiable) example of somebody not dropping dead from covid-1984 because they got the "vaccine"?

...... you know, the more I think about it the more I think you're a sarcastic troll because nobody in their right mind could look at how the CDC and Fauci the fraudster flip flop and not have a light go off in their head and start to question things.

Something else weird.... red states that dropped their mask mandates and opened back up saw falling/zero cases of new covid-1984 infections and when Fauci the fraudster was questioned about this, he couldn't explain the drop. (Note; red states have lower instances of people getting vaccinated.)

Any thoughts on the gain of function research around covid-1984 and who funded it?

Um, there is no scientific research behind your links. If this were Twitter I'd fact check your arse. Nothing that you are posting has anything to do with the effect of the vaccine. Sir, you have lost your place in this conversation.

I love how you ask for someone not dropping dead from COVID post-vaccine. The whole point of it is to make you immune/effectively defensive against COVID. You want a verifiable case? Here, come to where I live where people get vaccinated and sometimes get COVID. Guess what? They didn't die. You can suck my right butt-cheek.

@LostRabbit people forget that all freedom comes with a cost. They will most likely be barred from airplanes for a considerable time forward that haven't gotten vaccinated. I feel it's my duty as a citizen to protect my fellow people and especially those who can't get the vaccines because of allergies. These fuckwats haven't been alive when the measles, mupps, polio etc. was common place. If they were, they wouldn't be anti-vaxx.

I can't believe we are still debating safety and conspiracies. Everyone i know and myself got at least 1 shot. You might or might not get sick for a few days but it's a million times better than getting hospitalized and maybe die as well. If you wanna believe the conspiracy nonsense and not get vaccinated then that's your decision but then have the balls and stay the fuck away from everyone vulnerable/unvaccinated and wear masks. Thank you.

@linuxares and @ghjfdtg, thank you too for being people who present logic in here. @Lacius as well. You have my thanks.

To heck with people claiming they got sick after the shot. That's the point. Your body is fighting off the new proteins made by the mRNA messenger. That's the good part about mRNA is that it's not a dead illness, it's a protein coming to save the day. Conspiracies and anti-vaxx people, you know what I have to say? YOU ARE IDIOTS. GBATemp ToS can report me for all I care, but not getting a vaccine due to baseless theories and forged news sources is utter B.S. Would you rather "stand out" and "be proud of your country" being the mighty few who don't get a single strand of ribonucleic acid (RNA**) stuck in your body to protect others? You have to be kidding me. I can rage about this all week and, heck, even fight back against it.

FUN FACT: If you get the first shot and your sickness is worse than the second, you had COVID before. A study done showed that the antibodies affect the first shot if you had COVID before.

**Ribonucleic acid, or RNA, is a single-stranded piece of bases that regulate how proteins are made. By giving a cell some new mRNA within the vaccine, it creates one protein of COVID and kills it, thus giving your immune system more power. RNA is a naturally occurring part of the body, much like DNA (Deoxyribonucleic acid; Ribonucleic acid, deoxidized) which is the code of all life.

 

[linuxares]

Actually, the vaccine ingredients within it combined with her pre-existing condition, which she should've checked on. That vaccine wasn't made correctly, and thus, it messed with her blood clotting condition. Did you read past the headline?



Um, there is no scientific research behind your links. If this were Twitter I'd fact check your arse. Nothing that you are posting has anything to do with the effect of the vaccine. Sir, you have lost your place in this conversation.

I love how you ask for someone not dropping dead from COVID post-vaccine. The whole point of it is to make you immune/effectively defensive against COVID. You want a verifiable case? Here, come to where I live where people get vaccinated and sometimes get COVID. Guess what? They didn't die. You can suck my right butt-cheek.



@linuxares and @ghjfdtg, thank you too for being people who present logic in here. @Lacius as well. You have my thanks.

To heck with people claiming they got sick after the shot. That's the point. Your body is fighting off the new proteins made by the mRNA messenger. That's the good part about mRNA is that it's not a dead illness, it's a protein coming to save the day. Conspiracies and anti-vaxx people, you know what I have to say? YOU ARE IDIOTS. GBATemp ToS can report me for all I care, but not getting a vaccine due to baseless theories and forged news sources is utter B.S. Would you rather "stand out" and "be proud of your country" being the mighty few who don't get a single strand of ribonucleic acid (RNA**) stuck in your body to protect others? You have to be kidding me. I can rage about this all week and, heck, even fight back against it.

FUN FACT: If you get the first shot and your sickness is worse than the second, you had COVID before. A study done showed that the antibodies affect the first shot if you had COVID before.

**Ribonucleic acid, or RNA, is a single-stranded piece of bases that regulate how proteins are made. By giving a cell some new mRNA within the vaccine, it creates one protein of COVID and kills it, thus giving your immune system more power. RNA is a naturally occurring part of the body, much like DNA (Deoxyribonucleic acid; Ribonucleic acid, deoxidized) which is the code of all life.

I would almost be afraid if I didn't feel anything after the vaccine. I would be afraid that it didn't work.

 

[WG481]

I would almost be afraid if I didn't feel anything after the vaccine. I would be afraid that it didn't work.

Right? Whenever someone in my family gets a vaccine they're a little spaced out or sick, which is why I always look for the side effects.

 

[tabzer]

Whether or not a person should be able to make the decision themselves about getting vaccinated is an entirely different question from whether or not a person should get vaccinated.

The answers to both questions are outside of the scope of your domain.

I haven't said anything about COVID-19 or the vaccines that isn't factually correct

You are positing that not getting the vaccine negatively affects you or the people around you. Not taking the concoction doesn't hurt you. If you can quote the CDC saying this, that would be welcomed.

You have acknowledged the vaccine as being a "bet", and I would agree. But every time you post that "all evidence says its safe" without also citing the side effects it is marketing strategy--which you do often, especially when you are saying that people should follow your medical advice.

You have also said, "over 96% of doctors have been vaccinated and recommend people get vaccinated as soon as possible" based on an American demographical, potentially curated, survey (if I ask someone who has been vaccinated because they were compelled to be vaccinated by their places of employment--I suppose the answer should be at least 96% yes). Different demographics show vastly different results in similar surveys, just for America--so how would you apply this metric to a global scale where there are entire countries that are skeptical?

"96% of doctors have been vaccinated and recommend getting vaccinated."

Where in your marketing "survey" does it say that those doctors recommend getting the vaccine?

 

[WG481]

The answers to both questions are outside of the scope of your domain.



You are positing that not getting the vaccine negatively affects you or the people around you. Not taking the concoction doesn't hurt you. If you can quote the CDC saying this, that would be welcomed.

You have acknowledged the vaccine as being a "bet", and I would agree. But every time you post that "all evidence says its safe" without also citing the side effects it is marketing strategy--which you do often, especially when you are saying that people should follow your medical advice.

You have also said, "over 96% of doctors have been vaccinated and recommend people get vaccinated as soon as possible" based on an American demographical, potentially curated, survey (if I ask someone who has been vaccinated because they were compelled to be vaccinated by their places of employment--I suppose the answer should be at least 96% yes). Different demographics show vastly different results in similar surveys, just for America--so how would you apply this metric to a global scale where there are entire countries that are skeptical?

"96% of doctors have been vaccinated and recommend getting vaccinated."

Where in your marketing "survey" does it say that those doctors recommend getting the vaccine?

Leave this forum. Just leave it.

The CDC has very much so exercised the fact that the vaccine doesn't hurt you. Have you bothered to ask questions to your doctor, read the CDC reports, or even exist in functioning society?

Quit referring to it as a concoction. It's a scientifically proven mixture of ingredients like a fecking cake or some shet that make it a thing that works. All evidence does say it's safe, and it will kill you slower than the following:
- Existing
- Breathing oxygen
- Consuming McDonalds
- Eating
- Moderate to severe plaque psoriasis
- Using GBATemp

So far, nobody here who is both educated and got the vaccine has reported the following:
- Dying
- Severe reactions
- Anything other than the normal side effects

As you can see, here are some sources proving the vaccine is safe:
- The National Center for Disease Control featuring elected officials meant to prevent the spread of viruses such as Zeka, Flu, Bubonic Plague, and idiocy.
- Every doctor you ask
- Lacius
- Knowledgeable news sources who cite their information

Quit trying to win a battle you have already lost. You're like the Germans with both World Wars: destined for failure.

 

[WiiCurious]

Leave this forum. Just leave it.

The CDC has very much so exercised the fact that the vaccine doesn't hurt you.

Not an anti-vaxxor, just someone interest in statistics and science. The vaccine is, statistically, much safer than catching COVID. The blanket statement that the vaccine doesn't hurt you is not correct. It's like saying COVID kills 1 in 100 people. It can be mostly true without being actually true.

Statistically, the vaccine doesn't hurt you.
The CDC has confirmed cases of myocarditis linked to the vaccine.
The CDC has very much so exercised the fact that the vaccine probably won't hurt you.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/25/health/fda-covid-vaccine-heart-warning/index.html

'Earlier this week, vaccine advisers to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention heard that the agency had received about 1,200 reports of such heart inflammation after 300 million doses of the two vaccines had been given. CDC has confirmed about 300 of those cases, many of them among young men and adolescents.'

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As you can see, here are some sources proving the vaccine is safe:


Quit trying to win a battle you have already lost. You're like the Germans with both World Wars: destined for failure.

1. You can't prove anything in science.

2. Based on the German's influence on EU politics and monetary policy, I think you can argue that they eventually won both world wars.

 

[AngryCinnabon]

Another educated person! Pfizer, Moderna, or J&J?

If you're still hung up on 5G towers, (those of you Karens out there, not ChaoticCinnabon) you have to be joking. You get a higher background dose of radiation from your microwave than a 5G tower. The literal sun gives you more radiation than a 5G tower. Comparing it to chernobyl or whatever is 100% Bona Fide Idiocy featuring Hints of Shet-Brain.

The vaccines have increased my physical (and mental for that matter, because I can talk to people now) health to a point where I am immune/protected against most diseases. I have never had a bad strain of the flu, I haven't gotten Tetanus from getting cut, and COVID fears me. People need to go back to Fourth Grade Health where your teacher explains how vaccines are like force-fields and you get a Hello Kitty sticker at the end.

Pfizer. and yeah, man people do need to smarten up

 

[WG481]

Not an anti-vaxxor, just someone interest in statistics and science. The vaccine is, statistically, much safer than catching COVID. The blanket statement that the vaccine doesn't hurt you is not correct. It's like saying COVID kills 1 in 100 people. It can be mostly true without being actually true.

Statistically, the vaccine doesn't hurt you.
The CDC has confirmed cases of myocarditis linked to the vaccine.
The CDC has very much so exercised the fact that the vaccine probably won't hurt you.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/25/health/fda-covid-vaccine-heart-warning/index.html

'Earlier this week, vaccine advisers to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention heard that the agency had received about 1,200 reports of such heart inflammation after 300 million doses of the two vaccines had been given. CDC has confirmed about 300 of those cases, many of them among young men and adolescents.'

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1. You can't prove anything in science.

2. Based on the German's influence on EU politics and monetary policy, I think you can argue that they eventually won both world wars.

Oh my gosh, did you just say you can’t prove anything with science? Instant invalidation. You have to be dumping a metric cuboid of crap if you say that.

No, they still lost the wars. Meet the UN. They set tighter regulations on Germany because of WWI and WWII.

 

[Lacius]

The answers to both questions are outside of the scope of your domain.



You are positing that not getting the vaccine negatively affects you or the people around you. Not taking the concoction doesn't hurt you. If you can quote the CDC saying this, that would be welcomed.

You have acknowledged the vaccine as being a "bet", and I would agree. But every time you post that "all evidence says its safe" without also citing the side effects it is marketing strategy--which you do often, especially when you are saying that people should follow your medical advice.

You have also said, "over 96% of doctors have been vaccinated and recommend people get vaccinated as soon as possible" based on an American demographical, potentially curated, survey (if I ask someone who has been vaccinated because they were compelled to be vaccinated by their places of employment--I suppose the answer should be at least 96% yes). Different demographics show vastly different results in similar surveys, just for America--so how would you apply this metric to a global scale where there are entire countries that are skeptical?

"96% of doctors have been vaccinated and recommend getting vaccinated."

Where in your marketing "survey" does it say that those doctors recommend getting the vaccine?

If not getting vaccinated makes it significantly more likely that you will contract COVID-19 and spread it to others, that means not getting the vaccine negatively affects you and those around you.

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Pfizer. and yeah, man people do need to smarten up

The cool kids get Pfizer.

 

[WiiCurious]

Oh my gosh, did you just say you can’t prove anything with science? Instant invalidation. You have to be dumping a metric cuboid of crap if you say that.

No, they still lost the wars. Meet the UN. They set tighter regulations on Germany because of WWI and WWII.

Holy shit dude. The idea that you can't prove anything with science is the whole basis behind fucking science.
The fact that you disagree is actually instantly invalidates your opinion. How can you keep jerking off to science in this thread when it's now painfully clear that you don't know the first fucking thing about scientific thought?

Are you like a high schooler or something? I can't believe any adult with any science background would say you can prove things with science.

Honestly, saying you can prove things with science is almost as dumb as saying vaccines are dangerous.

In 5 years when you finally get to college, ask your biology professor about proving things with science. I can 100% guarantee that they will agree with me.

You are a child.

 

[SG854]

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[WG481]

Holy shit dude. The idea that you can't prove anything with science is the whole basis behind fucking science.
The fact that you disagree is actually instantly invalidates your opinion. How can you keep jerking off to science in this thread when it's now painfully clear that you don't know the first fucking thing about scientific thought?

Are you like a high schooler or something? I can't believe any adult with any science background would say you can prove things with science.

Honestly, saying you can prove things with science is almost as dumb as saying vaccines are dangerous.

In 5 years when you finally get to college, ask your biology professor about proving things with science. I can 100% guarantee that they will agree with me.

You are a child.

I would like to point out that I have spoken with some scientists on the matter…

They disagree. As you can see, this is no longer a point of age. Thank you for reminding me of my pubescence you buffoon.

Can you disprove E=mc^2? Nope. Because Einstein proved it with none other than God’s greatest gift: science.

As you can see, Age /= smarts. Please go back to whatever corner of the internet you came from.

 

[SG854]

I would like to point out that I have spoken with some scientists on the matter…

They disagree. As you can see, this is no longer a point of age. Thank you for reminding me of my pubescence you buffoon.

Can you disprove E=mc^2? Nope. Because Einstein proved it with none other than God’s greatest gift: science.

As you can see, Age /= smarts. Please go back to whatever corner of the internet you came from.

Proof is a mathematical concept. You can prove answers to equations. Equations like E=mc'2 is mathematical and you can prove the answer to it. You can't prove stuff in science. There is always uncertainty. You can only provide evidence.

 

[tabzer]

So far, nobody here who is both educated and got the vaccine has reported the following:
- Dying

Brilliant.

If not getting vaccinated makes it significantly more likely that you will contract COVID-19 and spread it to others, that means not getting the vaccine negatively affects you and those around you.

Getting the vaccine may help reduce contraction. Not getting the vaccine doesn't increase likelihood. It is either an improvement or no effect. Way to quote the CDC on your propagandic lingo!(not.)

 

[The Catboy]

Been close to a month since I've gotten my second shot and I am doing just fine. The only problem I had was a bit of fever after the second shot and I was able to nap that off. I really wish people would stop being stupid about the vaccine and just get them already. There isn't a real debate about the safety around them as the ones opposing them are just making shit up to scare themselves and others. Thus far, the only sources out there claiming that vaccines are harmful haven't actually been from actual medical professionals, outside of maybe quake "professional" like a chiropractor or some other pseudoscience practice.

 

[Lacius]

Brilliant.



Getting the vaccine may help reduce contraction. Not getting the vaccine doesn't increase likelihood. It is either an improvement or no effect. Way to quote the CDC on your propagandic lingo!(not.)

Not getting the vaccine hurts you relative to getting the vaccine. Please don't be disingenuous and argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.

If you don't get vaccinated, you are putting at risk your health and the health of the people around you. This is a demonstrable fact.

 

[WG481]

Brilliant.



Getting the vaccine may help reduce contraction. Not getting the vaccine doesn't increase likelihood. It is either an improvement or no effect. Way to quote the CDC on your propagandic lingo!(not.)

Getting the vaccine provides multiple times more immunity. If you don't have the vaccine you are more likely to get COVID (especially the Delta variant). You brought nothing to the argument.

 

[tabzer]

Not getting the vaccine hurts you relative to getting the vaccine. Please don't be disingenuous and argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.

If you don't get vaccinated, you are putting at risk your health and the health of the people around you. This is a demonstrable fact.

Please don't be disingenuous and assume getting the vaccine is the default option when choosing whether or not to get the vaccine. Quote the CDC please. What you are saying is literal propaganda.

 

[Iamapirate]

You are not legally responsible for the health of others around you, but you have a moral imperative to get vaccinated and protect those around you. The vaccine has been demonstrated to be much safer than the risks associated with contracting COVID-19, so it's also a win-win for you.

The virus disproportionately affects the elderly and people with other conditions, but that doesn't mean you are immune to serious symptoms from the virus. You can be young and healthy and die from the disease, and you don't know if you're going to be lucky or unlucky. If, rightly, you want to make an informed decision based on the odds, the vaccine comes with risks far less likely than the risks associated with COVID-19, regardless of your age and health.

The long-term health effects of COVID-19 are more a mystery than the long-term health effects of the vaccines, and the long-term health effects of COVID-19 are also much more probable. As I've mentioned earlier, the vaccine has completely left your body days/weeks after the last dose, but the virus can make permanent alternations to the DNA in some of your cells. This is only one of many examples of how the the virus is muck riskier.

Follow the advice of the CDC and every other reputable medical group: Get vaccinated now, and contact your doctor if you have any questions or concerns about whether or not you can take the vaccine.

I'm simply unconvinced that the odds of a serious case of covid are high enough to warrant another potential risk factor in the vaccine.

 

[LostRabbit]

Got my second dose yesterday, feeling good. [...]

I have literally seen people make these claims and it taught me, vaccines can sure as hell keep us immune or at least protected from disease, but not stupidity.

[...] most people annoy me so much with their idiotic behavior. COVID-19 made all of that a whole lot worse.

We are all in this together. While most of the people do what they can, sacrifice a lot of their "freedom", keep distance, wash their darn hands and nowadays try to get vaccinated.. there are a few people who ruin the whole thing for everyone.

If you wanna believe in whatever strange theory or don't want to take any kind of risk.. stay at home, lock yourself away somehow but stop spreading this sht

[...] all freedom comes with a cost. They will most likely be barred from airplanes for a considerable time forward that haven't gotten vaccinated. I feel it's my duty as a citizen to protect my fellow people and especially those who can't get the vaccines because of allergies. These fuckwats haven't been alive when the measles, mupps, polio etc. was common place. If they were, they wouldn't be anti-vaxx.

Been close to a month since I've gotten my second shot and I am doing just fine. The only problem I had was a bit of fever after the second shot and I was able to nap that off. I really wish people would stop being stupid about the vaccine and just get them already. There isn't a real debate about the safety around them as the ones opposing them are just making shit up to scare themselves and others. Thus far, the only sources out there claiming that vaccines are harmful haven't actually been from actual medical professionals, outside of maybe quake "professional" like a chiropractor or some other pseudoscience practice.