Covid-19 vaccine

[plasma]

I got my vaccine already and I am glad I did. People who are scared of it is fine, but to say there is more to it and its a government conspiricy to either control the masses or use it as population control need to get some fresh air.

I much prefer keeping myself and others around me safe, I know people who were perfectly healthy that got covid and died. Covid is real, it's that simple.

 

[Lacius]

1. There's substance. Proof is in your grasping of pearls. Sorry I was late. Didn't get a notification of posts until now.
2. Not a valid credential.
3. Nope. You can't verify it's 100% safe.
3b. You aren't a doctor. It's not your business to be giving advice to people they should be getting a vaccine. Your moral imperative is to stfu and stop overstepping your bounds because you are proud of your biology degree (but for some reason not a doctorate or a license.).

The vaccine has been demonstrated to be safe and effective. Nobody is claiming that means it's "100% safe."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html

If a person can medically get the vaccine, that person should definitely do so, and that person has a moral imperative to do so. If there are concerns about whether or not a person can medically get the vaccine, that person should of course consult their doctor.

 

[plasma]

1. There's substance. Proof is in your grasping of pearls. Sorry I was late. Didn't get a notification of posts until now.
2. Not a valid credential.
3. Nope. You can't verify it's 100% safe.
3b. You aren't a doctor. It's not your business to be giving advice to people they should be getting a vaccine. Your moral imperative is to stfu and stop overstepping your bounds because you are proud of your biology degree (but for some reason not a doctorate or a license.).

Who hurt you? Lacius is giving correct information and you say something childish like this.

 

[tabzer]

The vaccine has been demonstrated to be safe and effective.

Except, no. Parroting the CDC as your own personal recommendation doesn't make you unaccountable for what you say, which requires a license.

 

[Lacius]

Except, no. Parroting the CDC as your own personal recommendation doesn't make you unaccountable for what you say, which requires a license.

It's funny to be that you want to talk about my credentials instead of the facts, which suggests to me that you're not having this conversation in good faith.

The CDC recommendations are based on scientific evidence and facts, and the recommendations are being made by people with the credentials you're looking for, so my credentials are irrelevant. I'm not sure what your goal is here, but I don't think you're achieving it.

 

[tabzer]

It's funny to be that you want to talk about my credentials instead of the facts, which suggests to me that you're not having this conversation in good faith.

It's not funny at all. You are pressuring people to get the vaccine and you aren't a doctor.

The CDC represents ONE entity. Have you heard of a second opinion?

 

[Lacius]

It's not funny at all.

I meant it was "strange" funny, not "haha" funny, but I guess it was both.

You are pressuring people to get the vaccine and you aren't a doctor.

You seem to be suggesting that anyone without the credentials you're looking for cannot or should not acknowledge the facts regarding COVID-19 vaccination, but that would presumably exclude you from the conversation as well.

It does not take a doctor to acknowledge the facts about the COVID-19 vaccine. It is a fact that the vaccines have been demonstrated to be safe, it is a fact that the vaccines have been demonstrated to be effective, and it is a fact that every reputable medical organization/agency says everyone who can be vaccinated should get vaccinated as soon as possible. If you disagree with these things, please provide evidence. Until you do that, you're merely engaging in a fallacious argument by focusing on my credentials. I could be a high school dropout, and it would not change the validity of what I'm posting.

The CDC represents ONE entity. Have you heard of a second opinion?

Virtually every medical organization and agency agrees the vaccines are safe and effective, and they recommend anyone who can get vaccinated should get vaccinated as soon as possible.

 

[zxr750j]

I'm glad people do get vaccins, got my second today!
Thanks to the people who do get vaccinated the restrictions are going to be lifted around here, despite of people who don't..

 

[tabzer]

You seem to be suggesting that anyone without the credentials you're looking for cannot or should not acknowledge the facts regarding COVID-19 vaccination, but that would presumably exclude you from the conversation as well.

I'm not telling anybody to get the vaccine or not to get the vaccine. That's the difference between me and you. I know I am not a doctor. You are pretending to be one.

Virtually every medical organization and agency agrees the vaccines are safe and effective, and they recommend anyone who can get vaccinated to get vaccinated as soon as possible.

Except that there are doctors (ie agencies) that remain skeptical of it, so that's false. There is also the fact that the list of side-effects are being revised in real time, which means it's not settled.

 

[Lacius]

I'm not telling anybody to get the vaccine or not to get the vaccine. That's the difference between me and you. I know I am not a doctor. You are pretending to be one.

I've already said that I am not a doctor, but it doesn't take a doctor to acknowledge the medical advice from the overwhelming majority of doctors that is based on the scientific evidence. The vaccines have been demonstrated to be safe and effective, and it is recommended that people get vaccinated as soon as possible. These are facts.

Except that there are doctors (ie agencies) that remain skeptical of it, so that's false. There is also the fact that the list of side-effects are being revised in real time, which means it's not settled.

1. Individual doctors are not the same thing as agencies.
2. Please provide an example of a reputable organization that does not recommend people getting vaccinated as soon as possible.
3. The vaccines have been demonstrated to be safe an effective.
4. Aside from one very rare side effect with the J&J vaccine, the side effects have been relatively consistent. What we know now about the J&J vaccine doesn't change the fact that it has also been demonstrated to be safe and effective.

 

[emigre]

In happier news, I have my second vax on the 31st. Hopefully this time, the side effects won't fuck me up again.

 

[DKB]

You are pretending to be one.

He said like 10 times he's not a doctor.

 

[tabzer]

I've already said that I am not a doctor, but it doesn't take a doctor to acknowledge the medical advice from the overwhelming majority of doctors that is based on the scientific evidence.

Acknowledging what you recognize as "popular medical advice" isn't the same as giving medical advice, which is the line you have crossed. Anyone who experiences adverse reactions to the vaccine could subpoena gbatemp and press charges against you, if that is in anyone's prerogative. In essence, you are gambling.

1. Individual doctors are not the same thing as agencies.
2. Please provide an example of a reputable organization that does not recommend people getting vaccinated as soon as possible.
3. The vaccines have been demonstrated to be safe an effective.
4. Aside from one very rare side effect with the J&J vaccine, the side effects have been relatively consistent. What we know now about the J&J vaccine doesn't change the fact that it has also been demonstrated to be safe and effective.

1. Individual doctors who run their own practice is the definition of agency.
2. They exist, just look for them. And then you are free to cancel them as you see fit.
3. As fine print, that might be legally permissible, but that is only because all of the claims of adverse effects are dismissed as being inconclusive.
4. Heart inflammation is the new hot topic, haven't you heard?

 

[leon315]

In happier news, I have my second vax on the 31st. Hopefully this time, the side effects won't fuck me up again.

i see u have UK flag under avatar, then u must getting Astrazeneca! The UK vaccine is banned in Italy for people under 60yo when a 18yo girl died after receiving Astrazeneca, Glad u survived the improbable blood cloth from Astrazeneca!

 

[plasma]

i see u have UK flag under avatar, then u must getting Astrazeneca! The UK vaccine is banned in Italy for people under 60yo when a 18yo girl died after receiving Astrazeneca, Glad u survived the improbable blood cloth from Astrazeneca!

I had the Pfizer one and I am in the UK. We offer both.

 

[Lacius]

Acknowledging what you recognize as "popular medical advice" isn't the same as giving medical advice, which is the line you have crossed. Anyone who experiences adverse reactions to the vaccine could subpoena gbatemp and press charges against you, if that is in anyone's prerogative. In essence, you are gambling.




1. Individual doctors who run their own practice is the definition of agency.
2. They exist, just look for them. And then you are free to cancel them as you see fit.
3. As fine print, that might be legally permissible, but that is only because all of the claims of adverse effects are dismissed as being inconclusive.
4. Heart inflammation is the new hot topic, haven't you heard?

The vaccines have been demonstrated to be safe and effective, and anyone who can get one should get one as soon as possible. This is what every reputable medical group says, and it's based on facts and evidence. I don't require a medical degree to acknowledge this, and I cannot be sued (lol) for acknowledging this.

If you want to argue the vaccines are not safe or effective, or if you want to argue people should not get vaccinated, feel free to do so, but you're going to have to provide evidence.

 

[tabzer]

This is what every reputable medical group says, and it's based on facts and evidence.

Wrong.

I don't require a medical degree to acknowledge this, and I cannot be sued (lol) for acknowledging this.

That is effectively different from saying "you should get the vaccine". We both know this. Hahah.

The way you use "safe" is subjective, not conclusive. Due to the fact that recent changes in its side-effects list have happened, it is assertively inconclusive--and not safe due to the already established side effects.

 

[Lacius]

Wrong.

Provide evidence for this.

That is effectively different from saying "you should get the vaccine". We both know this. Hahah.

Every reputable medical group also says everyone should get vaccinated if they can.

 

[Skelletonike]

Wtf, so many people that don't vaccine. o.O"

Damn. I bet we have flat earthers too.

 

[Lacius]

The way you use "safe" is subjective, not conclusive. Due to the fact that recent changes in its side-effects list have happened, it is assertively inconclusive--and not safe due to the already established side effects.

Even with what we know now, the vaccines have been demonstrated to be safe and effective.