Suicide of Near, bsnes and higan developer

[tabzer]

I can't imagine being in Tokyo, alone, without a support system. That's bleak. I hope it's a lie.

 

[the_randomizer]

Mate. Those Emails don't exonerate those who are irredeemably guilty of harassment, extortion, doxxing and other forms of abuse. Be it verbal or otherwise. I'm not seeing anything in those emails that change my views on that site as a whole. Everything I've seen completely buries those emails. Clearly, Near had issues. Literally nobody here is denying that. However, the shit they received from users on that site and potentially other places DOES NOT HELP THEIR MENTAL STATE. Also, what's your argument on the community targeting people who are associated with Near? You think those emails help that?

What's your argument here? Trying to make light on someone committing suicide and downplaying the severity of the choices of the parties involved?

Oh, but it's okay. That thread hadn't seen activity. So, that CLEARLY MEANS NOTHING ELSE HAPPENED! RIGHT?! FOH

Edit: One last bit of information. You should know better. No shit the owner of that site is attempting to make himself look like a decent person. We've seen similar actions from people who were more than guilty of what they were accused of. If your main counterpoint is this chain of emails? You've already made yourself look absolutely mental.

People like to defend sites such as 4chan and Kiwifarms, and frankly, they're full of shit. Sorry not sorry. Any kind of person belonging to a site, and people who dox others from said site, are literal pieces of subhuman shit. These sites need to be removed and people reaaaaaally need to stop gaslighting the victims. This is just bullshit.

 

[MaxToTheMax]

I have many problems with this.
The first one is: How someone can take it's own life due Internet bullying?
Is that a thing now?

I've heard of people being bullied in real life (I was bullied at school as a kid) and yet I was taught to defend myself because nobody did it for me, even teachers bullied me for as long as highschool graduation.

I really don't understand how a person can decide to end it's life thanks to the Internet. I'm honestly scratching my head how something like this can happen.

Second problem: How hard was to stay away of such sites?

Lol read the room, guy. Maybe not the best thread to say this in.

 

[Magicantian]

The wrong people are starting to get pissed:


lock the thread, no more discussion on this, it's getting too real, leave it alone and let the background do the background.

 

[JuanMena]

Lol read the room, guy. Maybe not the best thread to say this in.

Of course I never meant anything bad. Any misreading is literally not my fault.

What I tried to express is my fault at trying to understand why people takes it's life over cyber bullying.

Despite being quoted by other people explaining that the guy got it's private life, address and friends/family involved, it's still hard for me to believe that it could cause this.
Yes it's tragic, and yet extreme to the point that, to me It's shockingly unbelievable (yet real)

 

[Kioku]

Of course I never meant anything bad. Any misreading is literally not my fault.

What I tried to express is my fault at trying to understand why people takes it's life over cyber bullying.

Despite being quoted by other people explaining that the guy got it's private life, address and friends/family involved, it's still hard for me to believe that it could cause this.
Yes it's tragic, and yet extreme to the point that, to me It's shockingly unbelievable (yet real)

It's the extent these people went to ensure there was no downtime for Near. Between harassing them, their friends and family and the methods involved. Tack that on to an already troubled person? It's a recipe for disaster.

 

[JaNDeRPeiCH]

The fbi cant do a shit in this case.Lets be honest why sites like 8chan,4chan and kiwifarms exists?.Those websites need some kind of money to build up on the internet and surely will be donations from bitcoin.Thats the why the fbi cant do anything. Bitcoin cant be searched.Other thing to note i bet there is a doxxings jobs from Kiwifarms forums hidden to local public.There is no way doing doxxing with no reason must be monetary to do it and someone pay to do it.Someone near to dave hate him so much...

Note: Doxxing its ilegal in many countries and if you get caught prepare to go to the jail. That why im saying doxxing with no reason...must be monetary. For example Ralph lives in USA, hate a woman named Sakura in Japan.He is doing harrasment online and recollect information of the victim.When Sakura goes offline, pay someone in Japan to doxx her.

 

[JuanMena]

It's the extent these people went to ensure there was no downtime for Near. Between harassing them, their friends and family and the methods involved. Tack that on to an already troubled person? It's a recipe for disaster.

Yes and I understand.
And I hope I don't touch any sensitive fibers with the following:

But if I'm personally being bullied on the internet to the point that someone makes it personal... I would've stepped outside the Internet, seek help and maybe lift a demand/taken legal actions.
Like, just recently Mexico's government approved a law against Cyber Bullying. It's literally illegal and a crime ro Bully someone on the Internet because we've had the same scenario before.
Yet it's intriguing for me to believe that such laws doesn't exist outside my country.

 

[Kioku]

Yes and I understand.
And I hope I don't touch any sensitive fibers with the following:

But if I'm personally being bullied on the internet to the point that someone makes it personal... I would've stepped outside the Internet, seek help and maybe lift a demand/taken legal actions.
Like, just recently Mexico's government approved a law against Cyber Bullying. It's literally illegal and a crime ro Bully someone on the Internet because we've had the same scenario before.
Yet it's intriguing for me to believe that such laws doesn't exist outside my country.

Well, from what I've gathered? Near already tried seeking help. Took prescribed medications and even took a break. No two people work the same.

 

[Xzi]

The fbi cant do a shit in this case.Lets be honest why sites like 8chan,4chan and kiwifarms exists?.Those websites need some kind of money to build up on the internet and surely will be donations from bitcoin.Thats the why the fbi cant do anything. Bitcoin cant be searched.

The activities of individuals, both online and off, can be thoroughly investigated. Harassment over long periods of time and death threats are both illegal and very much within the FBI's wheelhouse, as local police often won't take these matters seriously enough or won't have the resources necessary to properly investigate them.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

Yes and I understand.
And I hope I don't touch any sensitive fibers with the following:

But if I'm personally being bullied on the internet to the point that someone makes it personal... I would've stepped outside the Internet, seek help and maybe lift a demand/taken legal actions.
Like, just recently Mexico's government approved a law against Cyber Bullying. It's literally illegal and a crime ro Bully someone on the Internet because we've had the same scenario before.
Yet it's intriguing for me to believe that such laws doesn't exist outside my country.

Some people with mental illness take what happens on the Internet a little too hard. I believe that suicide is by definition committed by the person committing suicide, but there's of course going to be factors around what motivated that person to take their own life. Just because you're failing to make any sense out of the situation doesn't mean it doesn't make perfect sense to others. Who killed Near? Near killed himself. What motivated him to do so? Seems that information can be found in his suicide note.

 

[Valwinz]

does anyone have something that actually confirms this?

 

[JaNDeRPeiCH]

The activities of individuals, both online and off, can be thoroughly investigated. Harassment over long periods of time and death threats are both illegal and very much within the FBI's wheelhouse, as local police often won't take these matters seriously enough or won't have the resources necessary to properly investigate them.

The fbi can search it those harrasments.Im talking why such bad sites like 4chan,kiwifarms and 8chan exist? if they want to combat harrasment first took down those sites and the only way to stop it its doing worlwide ban from bitcoin money.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

does anyone have something that actually confirms this?

Marcan confirmed it. He's one of the people responsible for the original Wii softmod hacks. He's trust worthy, I just wouldn't count on him commenting on this site because he dislikes the open piracy crap going on here.

 

[Joom]

What I tried to express is my fault at trying to understand why people takes it's life over cyber bullying.

Don't try to rationalize depression, because it itself is irrational. If you don't have it, trying to understand it is like trying to read a language you don't speak. Depression also runs rampant within the LGBTQ community, and when you're attacked and harassed for an identity you already struggle with, it's very easy to break. Near sounds like they were still struggling with coming to terms with who they were. Coming out and self-acceptance are much harder things to do than giving yourself a label on the internet, especially when society makes it a point to demonize you.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

It seems that NintendoLife published this story too. I wonder if it'll hit the bigger folks like IGN? Near was also popular on ArsTechnica, but I don't visit woke tech blogs so I'm not sure if they posted an article yet or not.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2..._best_snes_emulators_has_taken_their_own_life

 

[Chary]

It seems that NintendoLife published this story too. I wonder if it'll hit the bigger folks like IGN? Near was also popular on ArsTechnica, but I don't visit woke tech blogs so I'm not sure if they posted an article yet or not.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2..._best_snes_emulators_has_taken_their_own_life

https://kotaku.com/the-brilliant-snes-emulator-creator-known-as-near-has-d-1847182851

As well.

 

[JuanMena]

Don't try to rationalize depression, because it itself is irrational. If you don't have it, trying to understand it is like trying to read a language you don't speak. Depression also runs rampant within the LGBTQ community, and when you're attacked and harassed for an identity you already struggle with, it's very easy to break. Near sounds like they were still struggling with coming to terms with who they were. Coming out and self-acceptance are much harder things to do than giving yourself a label on the internet, especially when society makes it a point to demonize you.

I love when people puts words on my mouth

 

[Xzi]

The fbi can search it those harrasments.Im talking why such bad sites like 4chan,kiwifarms and 8chan exist? if they want to combat harrasment first took down those sites and the only way its stop worlwide bitcoin.

Not necessarily. All the large hosting services and ISPs could decide to drop websites for hosting that sort of 'witch hunt' and doxxing content. There's not much they could do about it other than take it underground to the dark web, but that would also defeat much of its purpose; to attract and radicalize as many people as possible for these hatred campaigns.

 

[Joom]

I love when people puts words on my mouth

I think you're misunderstanding. I'm just trying to explain why cyber bullying would lead someone to taking their own life. It's fairly common in the LGBTQ community. I've lost a few friends to it because growing up gay or trans or anything else that falls on the spectrum leaves you emotionally volatile. You grow up with the idea that you aren't "normal", which squats on your mind until you either finally learn how to accept yourself, or you just sit in self-loathing for the rest of your life.

The life style that some LGBTQ+ people choose to live is a big reason why they suffer from mental illness.

You're trying too hard with the trolling there. The "concerned Christian" bit is incredibly dated. Come back with more appealing bait.