Joe Biden is now officially the 46th President of the United States of America

[RandomUser]

Saying black lives matter doesn't mean black lives matter more than others.

Then why not add the word "too"? Adding that word I think would have created a more positive impact and probably would have even more people agreeing with this then we do now.

What people are intentionally refusing to acknowledge when they say "all lives matter" is that certain lives are under more threat than others right now, and have been throughout our nation's entire history. It's the same type of racially charged cop-out as, "the Civil War was fought over states' rights." Just because a number of historical and modern events are uncomfortable to discuss from the perspective of privilege doesn't mean the answer is to stick your head in the sand and pretend they never happened.

Additionally, a certain amount of nihilism always comes attached with alt-right ideologies, so what a lot of people really mean when they say, "all lives matter" is, "no lives matter." After all, there is no actual organization by that name, "ALM" is nowhere to be found when police brutalize or murder anybody of any race/ethnicity. In other words, it's an endorsement of the status quo, and the only group that benefits from such an endorsement is the police. I say if you're gonna lick boot, at least be honest and straightforward about your intention to do so.

I agree that police brutality is never a good thing and should never be condoned.
I do have to wonder if people that you described actually exist in majority? I am not denying that they do exist, but somehow I think they are far fewer then what you let on.
I think that when people say "All lives matter" they actually mean all race matters or all race are equal. Generally not "all lives matter" = "No lives matter". Perhaps saying "all lives matter" is not correct for most people, because eating meat requires ending a life of an animal or swatting a fly for example. Anybody should understand what they are trying to portray.
Perhaps I'm being naïve in this regard.

 

[Lacius]

Then why not add the word "too"? Adding that word I think would have created a more positive impact and probably would have even more people agreeing with this then we do now.


I agree that police brutality is never a good thing and should never be condoned.
I do have to wonder if people that you described actually exist in majority? I am not denying that they do exist, but somehow I think they are far fewer then what you let on.
I think that when people say "All lives matter" they actually mean all race matters or all race are equal. Generally not "all lives matter" = "No lives matter". Perhaps saying "all lives matter" is not correct for most people, because eating meat requires ending a life of an animal or swatting a fly for example. Anybody should understand what they are trying to portray.
Perhaps I'm being naïve in this regard.

It shouldn't be so difficult for someone to say black lives matter.

 

[tthousand]

It shouldn't be so difficult for someone to say black lives matter.

A lot of things should not be.

Keep in mind, just because someone does not say black lives matter in this thread, does not mean they do not say it else where. And vice versa.

Here is an interesting take on Critical Race Theory, and where it came from and what it was influenced by.

Link >> https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/critical-race-theory-fight/

 

[Lacius]

A lot of things should not be.

Keep in mind, just because someone does not say black lives matter in this thread, does not mean they do not say it else where. And vice versa.

If a person cannot say black lives matter, here or anywhere else, it's meaningful.

 

[tthousand]

If a person cannot say black lives matter, here or anywhere else, it's meaningful.

Perhaps to you, yes. And perhaps to 5 other people in this world of 7.9 billion.

 

[Lacius]

Perhaps to you, yes. And perhaps to 5 other people in this world of 7.9 billion.

The number of people who think black lives matter outnumber six.

 

[tthousand]

The number of people who think black lives matter outnumber six.

I think you must have severely misunderstood what I said.

First) Just because someone does not say black lives matter in this thread, does not mean they do not say it else where. At the same time, just because someone does say black lives matter in this thread, does not mean they do say it else where.

Second) It seems to matter to about 6 people (give or take) in this thread if other's chant the mantra of what has been labeled a fraudulent, racist hate group.

 

[Lacius]

I think you must have severely misunderstood what I said.

First) Just because someone does not say black lives matter in this thread, does not mean they do not say it else where. At the same time, just because someone does say black lives matter in this thread, does not mean they do say it else where.

Second) It seems to matter to about 6 people (give or take) in this thread if other's chant the mantra of what has been labeled a fraudulent, racist hate group.

Regardless of how you or anyone else feels about BLM, it's problematic if one cannot say black lives matter.

 

[tthousand]

Regardless of how you or anyone else feels about BLM, it's problematic if one cannot say black lives matter.

Again, perhaps to you. To me, it is problematic that you insist some people say "black lives matter", instead of offering an alternative option. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

 

[KingVamp]

Then why not add the word "too"?

Black lives matter too, is a mouth full and not as catchy. Besides, bad actors would just say "all lives matter too", intentionally missing the point.

 

[Lacius]

Again, perhaps to you. To me, it is problematic that you insist some people say "black lives matter", instead of offering an alternative option. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

You either can say black lives matter or you can't, and that's a dichotomy.

 

[tthousand]

You either can say black lives matter or you can't, and that's a dichotomy.

I suppose it might be easier to live in a black and white reality as opposed to one with varying shades.

 

[Lacius]

I suppose it might be easier to live in a black and white reality as opposed to one with varying shades.

Black people exist, and their lives matter. I'm sorry there's anyone who cannot acknowledge this.

 

[tthousand]

Black people exist, and their lives matter. I'm sorry there's anyone who cannot acknowledge this.

I am sure there are pockets all around the world who hate, there are even blacks who hate blacks and whites who hate whites, and so on and so on. Do you really think there are those in this thread that see black lives as not equal to other ethnicities? I really doubt that personally.

 

[The Catboy]

All Lives Matter is literally the equivalent to the Founding Fathers saying "All men are created equal," while owning slaves.
The All Lives Matter movement is literally just a movement made to throw a blanket over actual issues and not deal with systematic problems.

 

[tthousand]

All Lives Matter is literally the equivalent to the Founding Fathers saying "All men are created equal," while owning slaves.
The All Lives Matter movement is literally just a movement made to throw a blanket over actual issues and not deal with systematic problems.

So... when people say All Lives Mater, they think modern day slavery should be a thing? And when the forefathers said "All men are created equal", they where really just trying to hide issues and avoid systematic problems? Not sure I am following your logic. Can you please explain a little more for me how these are literal equivalents?

 

[Lacius]

I am sure there are pockets all around the world who hate, there are even blacks who hate blacks and whites who hate whites, and so on and so on. Do you really think there are those in this thread that see black lives as not equal to other ethnicities? I really doubt that personally.

I really think there are those in this thread who cannot say black lives matter. I think that speaks for itself.

 

[The Catboy]

So... when people say All Lives Mater, they think modern day slavery should be a thing? And when the forefathers said "All men are created equal, they where really just trying to hide issues? Not sure I am following your logic.

No, I am saying the phrases are disingenuous and that the inclusion of "All" doesn't actually include everyone. Saying "All men are created equal" while literally continuing a system where POC were slaves, women didn't have rights, and so on, really just shows that "all" only meant a small group of people were equal. Saying "All Lives Matter" as a response to "Black Lives Matters" isn't about trying to resolve the systemic abuse primarily faced by POC, it's about trying to avoid the issues. It's about pretending the problems are either not as bad as people make them out to be or the mentality that the problems are more universal. Regardless of the reasoning, All Lives Matter isn't actually about the "All" in the name, it's about continuing to the status quo of blissful ignorance towards the systematic abuse towards POC.

 

[notimp]

Black lives matter exactly as much as they are needed to create advancements that will sell in the fast developing parts of afrika, same as advancing females to promote inovation generation matters mostly for when we drive India to get through the same cultural advancements within a decade and get their female workforce in the higher education sector online.

Oh and they matter of course everytime, when you would want to prevent social uprising within your own country --

and they matter in self advancement strategies of people buying equality storytelling, or did so a while ago.

Apart from that they matter on the individual level.

But certainly not on the cultural level, where we'd like for corporate sensitivity training to take over please. Or facebooks new worldwide ethics. One of those would be fine.

Everyone happy now?

Oh - and apart from that there is potential in getting the right people into the right positions independent of certain prejudices - and always the hope, that if they dont manage to produce something astonishing right about now, they can still serve as rolemodels to pacify their constituency.


edit: Oh, and there is a problem with police culture and racism in the US, that really ought to be solved by now - but please not by toppling the institutions, signed - the current administration.

edit2: Oh, and we didnt teach people in universities, how to deal with disruptive innovation, so if someone could come along and help us with that - that would be neat as well. Diverse leadership teams, probably would help.

 

[FAST6191]

No, I am saying the phrases are disingenuous and that the inclusion of "All" doesn't actually include everyone. Saying "All men are created equal" while literally continuing a system where POC were slaves, women didn't have rights, and so on, really just shows that "all" only meant a small group of people were equal. Saying "All Lives Matter" as a response to "Black Lives Matters" isn't about trying to resolve the systemic abuse primarily faced by POC, it's about trying to avoid the issues. It's about pretending the problems are either not as bad as people make them out to be or the mentality that the problems are more universal. Regardless of the reasoning, All Lives Matter isn't actually about the "All" in the name, it's about continuing to the status quo of blissful ignorance towards the systematic abuse towards POC.

That is a mightily impressive amount of reading into things and extrapolation, also some large assumptions on how the world works that may or may not comport with reality.