1. Lacius

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    Saying black lives matter doesn't mean black lives matter more than others.
     
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    What people are intentionally refusing to acknowledge when they say "all lives matter" is that certain lives are under more threat than others right now, and have been throughout our nation's entire history. It's the same type of racially charged cop-out as, "the Civil War was fought over states' rights." Just because a number of historical and modern events are uncomfortable to discuss from the perspective of privilege doesn't mean the answer is to stick your head in the sand and pretend they never happened.

    Additionally, a certain amount of nihilism always comes attached with alt-right ideologies, so what a lot of people really mean when they say, "all lives matter" is, "no lives matter." After all, there is no actual organization by that name, "ALM" is nowhere to be found when police brutalize or murder anybody of any race/ethnicity. In other words, it's an endorsement of the status quo, and the only group that benefits from such an endorsement is the police. I say if you're gonna lick boot, at least be honest and straightforward about your intention to do so.
     
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    No I'm pretty sure that's a lie
     
  4. Xzi

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    Then I'm pretty sure you must be blind, deaf, and dumb, because the attacks on Asians and African-Americans have been nonstop from the beginning of this year. The former are mostly attacked by individuals, the latter mostly by the police.

    Besides, you're one of those nihilists I was talking about. You don't even seem to care about potential statehood for Puerto Rico. And if you don't even care about your own community, you're going to have a tough time convincing me that you can be objective when it comes to the topic of another group being persecuted.
     
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    No I'm pretty sure your flat out lying

    if what you mean is The media focusing on certain races attacks while ignoring others them sure
     
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    It's what you're focusing on that's the problem. Just because I acknowledge that certain groups are victimized more than others doesn't mean I'm ignoring the bigger picture. US police have been killing more than a thousand people per year lately, of all races and ethnicities. That shouldn't be acceptable to anybody, and if it's acceptable to you then we have nothing more to discuss. Nihilism serves no purpose in this discussion other than to muddy the waters, and again, endorse the status quo.
     
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    It depends on context, which many people abuse. I see the categorization of people that groups people together as different races to be divisive and potentially harmful to the prospect of both greater unity and individualism.

    Some actions by the system can be helpful in the short-term and harmful in the long-term, and vice-versa. An example being is when a member of a classified group becomes the beneficiary of public aid, it reinforces dependence and complacency. It's good for padding immediate needs, but it maybe at the expense of incentive to excell and self-definition--both within the group and to those who get defined as some a part of some other group.
     
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    I’m just gonna say you are falling for easy bate into a circular argument with someone who seems want to be a contrarian.
     
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    Taste from your own medicine.
     
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    I asked if he could say something, and that's it. I wasn't imposing my will onto anybody. That being said, we've moved on from the topic.

    — Posts automatically merged - Please don't double post! —

    Saying "black lives matter" is not to say "black lives matter more than other lives." If someone is using it that way, that's not how I'm using it. Regardless, we've mostly moved on.
     
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    I've never thought those trying to force the utterance from others were implying that black lives matter more. They are simply requiring a capitulation if one wishes to be passed over, i.e. not subjected to violence and/or social ostracization.

    It's like the Japanese fumi-e.

    A modern day "are you now, or have you ever been?" test.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fumi-e
     
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    Cult vs cult as far as I am concerned.

    Only more value than that the "inquisited" is suspected of holding--damned be all other standards and consistency of their character.
     
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    Mansion lives matter
     
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    I'm sorry, but I don't understand what the point is you're trying to make.
     
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    Probably referring to Patrisse Khan-Cullors' high $$ real-estate investment spree.

    For a purported socialist, she's a pretty effective capitalist.

    Which doesn't really bother me. If selling socialism snake oil is your angle to getting filthy rich, and it works .... hey it's a free country.
     
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    One of Biden people is exciting violence
     
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    do you blame everything on biden @Valwinz cause most of the shit is out of his control that protestors are doing he's not directing them (unlike trump who directly incited the jan 6th inserection)
     
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    It's like the "thanks obama" meme
     
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