Joe Biden is now officially the 46th President of the United States of America

[Lacius]

That is the issue that I'm seeing, some members on here are actually implying that black lives is worth more then white and/or other race lives.
There is at least one member on here said that "all lives matter" to another member, but sadly their arrogance cannot comprehend what "all" means.

Saying black lives matter doesn't mean black lives matter more than others.

 

[Xzi]

What people are intentionally refusing to acknowledge when they say "all lives matter" is that certain lives are under more threat than others right now, and have been throughout our nation's entire history. It's the same type of racially charged cop-out as, "the Civil War was fought over states' rights." Just because a number of historical and modern events are uncomfortable to discuss from the perspective of privilege doesn't mean the answer is to stick your head in the sand and pretend they never happened.

Additionally, a certain amount of nihilism always comes attached with alt-right ideologies, so what a lot of people really mean when they say, "all lives matter" is, "no lives matter." After all, there is no actual organization by that name, "ALM" is nowhere to be found when police brutalize or murder anybody of any race/ethnicity. In other words, it's an endorsement of the status quo, and the only group that benefits from such an endorsement is the police. I say if you're gonna lick boot, at least be honest and straightforward about your intention to do so.

 

[Valwinz]

certain lives are under more threat than others right now,

No I'm pretty sure that's a lie

 

[Xzi]

No I'm pretty sure that's a lie

Then I'm pretty sure you must be blind, deaf, and dumb, because the attacks on Asians and African-Americans have been nonstop from the beginning of this year. The former are mostly attacked by individuals, the latter mostly by the police.

Besides, you're one of those nihilists I was talking about. You don't even seem to care about potential statehood for Puerto Rico. And if you don't even care about your own community, you're going to have a tough time convincing me that you can be objective when it comes to the topic of another group being persecuted.

 

[Valwinz]

Then I'm pretty sure you must be blind, deaf, and dumb, because the attacks on Asians and African-Americans have been nonstop from the beginning of this year. The former are mostly attacked by individuals, the latter mostly by the police.

No I'm pretty sure your flat out lying

if what you mean is The media focusing on certain races attacks while ignoring others them sure

 

[Xzi]

No I'm pretty sure your flat out lying

if what you mean is The media focusing on certain races attacks while ignoring others them sure

It's what you're focusing on that's the problem. Just because I acknowledge that certain groups are victimized more than others doesn't mean I'm ignoring the bigger picture. US police have been killing more than a thousand people per year lately, of all races and ethnicities. That shouldn't be acceptable to anybody, and if it's acceptable to you then we have nothing more to discuss. Nihilism serves no purpose in this discussion other than to muddy the waters, and again, endorse the status quo.

 

[tabzer]

Saying black lives matter doesn't mean black lives matter more than others.

It depends on context, which many people abuse. I see the categorization of people that groups people together as different races to be divisive and potentially harmful to the prospect of both greater unity and individualism.

Some actions by the system can be helpful in the short-term and harmful in the long-term, and vice-versa. An example being is when a member of a classified group becomes the beneficiary of public aid, it reinforces dependence and complacency. It's good for padding immediate needs, but it maybe at the expense of incentive to excell and self-definition--both within the group and to those who get defined as some a part of some other group.

 

[The Catboy]

It's what you're focusing on that's the problem. Just because I acknowledge that certain groups are victimized more than others doesn't mean I'm ignoring the bigger picture. US police have been killing more than a thousand people per year lately, of all races and ethnicities. That shouldn't be acceptable to anybody, and if it's acceptable to you then we have nothing more to discuss. Nihilism serves no purpose in this discussion other than to muddy the waters, and again, endorse the status quo.

I’m just gonna say you are falling for easy bate into a circular argument with someone who seems want to be a contrarian.

 

[Bullseye]

I'm asking if you, Foxi4, think black lives matter. You previously said you don't think any lives matter, but then you said murder is bad, so which is it? If you stop for a second and think about why you can't say black lives matter, you might be able to avoid the consequences of cognitive dissonance.

All anyone should really take note of here is how hard you're trying to avoid saying black lives matter. Nothing else matters.


I'm not sure why you're making a simple question difficult. Do you think black lives matter, yes or no? Can you say black lives matter? If it's complicated, I'm not the one making it complicated, and I don't think this requires further clarification.


Can you say black lives matter? Regarding Foxi4, I'm not asking about the cosmic sense of whether or not something matters. I'm asking if he thinks black lives matter. Bringing up existential questions about whether or not anything truly matters is irrelevant to the conversation, and it's a predictable deflection.

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Generally speaking, nobody thinks looting+murder is a good thing. Nobody thinks COVID-19+the collapse of the world economy is a good thing.

Say what I imposed you to say, don't avoid it.

Taste from your own medicine.

 

[Lacius]

Say what I imposed you to say, don't avoid it.

Taste from your own medicine.

I asked if he could say something, and that's it. I wasn't imposing my will onto anybody. That being said, we've moved on from the topic.

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It depends on context, which many people abuse. I see the categorization of people that groups people together as different races to be divisive and potentially harmful to the prospect of both greater unity and individualism.

Some actions by the system can be helpful in the short-term and harmful in the long-term, and vice-versa. An example being is when a member of a classified group becomes the beneficiary of public aid, it reinforces dependence and complacency. It's good for padding immediate needs, but it maybe at the expense of incentive to excell and self-definition--both within the group and to those who get defined as some a part of some other group.

Saying "black lives matter" is not to say "black lives matter more than other lives." If someone is using it that way, that's not how I'm using it. Regardless, we've mostly moved on.

 

[Hanafuda]

It sounds like you are using the virus as an excuse to not do black lives matter.

Please say,"black lives matter".

Saying black lives matter doesn't mean black lives matter more than others.

I've never thought those trying to force the utterance from others were implying that black lives matter more. They are simply requiring a capitulation if one wishes to be passed over, i.e. not subjected to violence and/or social ostracization.

It's like the Japanese fumi-e.

A modern day "are you now, or have you ever been?" test.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fumi-e

 

[tabzer]

Cult vs cult as far as I am concerned.

I've never thought those trying to force the utterance from others were implying that black lives matter more.

Only more value than that the "inquisited" is suspected of holding--damned be all other standards and consistency of their character.

 

[Valwinz]

I asked if he could say something, and that's it. I wasn't imposing my will onto anybody.n.

Mansion lives matter

 

[Lacius]

Mansion lives matter

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what the point is you're trying to make.

 

[Valwinz]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what the point is you're trying to make.

Breonna Taylor's mother slams Black Lives Matter and calls the organization a 'fraud' saying 'they've never done a damn thing for us' https://t.co/SaF2iAEF3g

— Daily Mail US (@DailyMail) April 17, 2021

 

[Lacius]

https://twitter.com/DailyMail/status/1383330156077453312

What does this have to do with "mansions"?

 

[Hanafuda]

What does this have to do with "mansions"?

Probably referring to Patrisse Khan-Cullors' high $$ real-estate investment spree.

For a purported socialist, she's a pretty effective capitalist.

Which doesn't really bother me. If selling socialism snake oil is your angle to getting filthy rich, and it works .... hey it's a free country.

 

[Valwinz]

One of Biden people is exciting violence

Minnesota National Guard, Police Team Shot In Drive-By Hours After Maxine Waters Incites BLM Protesters https://t.co/Oybz4MAUzm

— zerohedge (@zerohedge) April 18, 2021

 

[chrisrlink]

do you blame everything on biden @Valwinz cause most of the shit is out of his control that protestors are doing he's not directing them (unlike trump who directly incited the jan 6th inserection)

 

[Julie_Pilgrim]

do you blame everything on biden @Valwinz cause most of the shit is out of his control that protestors are doing he's not directing them (unlike trump who directly incited the jan 6th inserection)

It's like the "thanks obama" meme