Joe Biden is now officially the 46th President of the United States of America

[tabzer]

Some people can't say it because of the conflict it creates in their brain.
For those people it does require an inordinate amount of effort.

Making excuses why you won't say it makes you look like one of those people.

There is no evidence you believe that black lives matter. To the contrary, it is evident that you'd prefer to lecture people on the internet instead of joining the rioting protests. It is worse than an empty gesture. It's perverted.

 

[Foxi4]

Some people can't say it because of the conflict it creates in their brain.
For those people it does require an inordinate amount of effort.

Making excuses why you won't say it makes you look like one of those people.

Of course saying it doesn't absolve you from anything that would be ridiculous.

You said it, not me - no activism to speak of, no protests, no "doing the meme", just the statement - either that's stolen valor *or* the statement is not required to prove that you're not racist - you can just not be a racist. Why would anyone feel compelled to prove a negative, prove that they're *not* something? That's a fallacy just on the face of it - you can't prove a negative. The requirement is a thinly-veiled suggestion that your interlocutor is a racist unless they do exactly what you tell them to do. I don't take commands because I'm not a dog - if people want someone to listen to their commands, they can get a pet.

 

[smf]

There is no evidence you believe that black lives matter. To the contrary, it is evident that you'd prefer to lecture people on the internet instead of joining the rioting protests. It is worse than an empty gesture. It's perverted.

There is a pandemic on, I'd rather not kill anyone by attending a protest.

 

[tabzer]

There is a pandemic on, I'd rather not kill anyone by attending a protest.

According to this theory, when two actions or ideas are not psychologically consistent with each other, people do all in their power to change them until they become consistent

Wow, you look like you are a racist. That's too bad.

 

[smf]

You said it, not me - no activism to speak of, no protests, no "doing the meme", just the statement - either that's stolen valor *or* the statement is not required to prove that you're not racist - you can just not be a racist.

My edited post explains it more.

Saying it doesn't prove anything, not being able to say it when someone asks you makes you look like it would cause cognitive dissonance. Your constant refusal really does speak volumes.

Wow, you look like you are a racist. That's too bad.

I look racist because I won't spread a virus? I think you're going to have to explain that one a bit more as I don't see it.

For context there are other protests that I have avoided due to the pandemic, I have not specifically avoided blm protests.

 

[tabzer]

I look racist because I won't spread a virus? I think you're going to have to explain that one a bit more.

It sounds like you are using the virus as an excuse to not do black lives matter.

Please say,"black lives matter".

 

[smf]

It sounds like you are using the virus as an excuse to not do black lives matter.

Please say,"black lives matter".

I said it, I can also type it.

black lives matter.

no inner conflict for me.

 

[Foxi4]

My edited post explains it more.

Your post is armchair psychology. I sufficiently explained why I'm not going to use a BLM slogan, and why I'm not taking commands from strangers. Neither is evidence of any racial prejudice whatsoever. With that being said, I also don't particularly care what people think of me - I've been incorrectly called worse things than that, it doesn't affect me.

 

[smf]

I sufficiently explained why I'm not going to use a BLM slogan

Right, your explanation is just weak that is all. I get that you disagree, it's your explanation after all. But as someone that isn't you, not so much.

If you don't care then it's fine, but you seem to care.

 

[tabzer]

It didn't take long for the "cognitive dissonance" to set in, did it?

 

[Foxi4]

Right, your explanation is just weak that is all. I get that you disagree, it's your explanation after all. If you don't care then it's fine, but you seem to care.

Most times I only care about being entertained, that and making sure threads are interesting and pertinent to recent events. This was indeed an entertaining bit, but it's getting quite stale.

 

[smf]

Most times I only care about being entertained, and making sure that threads are interesting and pertinent to recent events. This was indeed an entertaining bit, but it's getting quite stale.

Well I've found it very enlightening about you.

 

[tthousand]

Just to be clear, we are seeing bigotry and prejudice to label others as being prejudice bigots.

Assuming someone does not want to say the mantra of a marxist, racist hate group automatically makes them the racist?

Again, why the fixation on saying "black lives matter"? Why not ask people to say "black lives are important", or something similar?

Personally, because I am not black, I do not wish to speak for the black masses. But I will always listen to what is being said, by all parties and either side.

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

There is a pandemic on, I'd rather not kill anyone by attending a protest.

Okay, so you do not want to protest, but are you actively speaking to officials to try and make a change? For that matter, are you actively doing anything to make the change you wish to see, or are you just coming online to spread hate?

 

[Foxi4]

This whole weird line of questioning is really giving me Orwellian vibes. I don't want the thread to turn into a weird virtue contest. I think both sides demonstrated their points, for better or worse, and each is entitled to an opinion. We've revisited the idea after abandoning it earlier, but only because of the latest shooting in Chicago. Since then, nobody seems to have added anything to that story.

 

[Plasmaster09]

This whole weird line of questioning is really giving me Orwellian vibes. I don't want the thread to turn into a weird virtue contest. I think both sides demonstrated their points, for better or worse, and each is entitled to an opinion. We've revisited the idea after abandoning it earlier, but only because of the latest shooting in Chicago. Since then, nobody seems to have added anything to that story.

You haven't really demonstrated much. You've dodged the question for days now for seemingly no reason other than not wanting to directly admit to agreeing with us on anything significant.
It's really not that hard to just say it.
Literally stating that the lives of black people are, in fact, no less valuable than the lives of people with other skin colors should not be difficult, nor is it part of a virtue contest or anything Orwellian.
There are only three reasons anyone would refuse to say it.
Either they're so far down the far-right rabbit hole that they treat the relatively mild notion of "skin color doesn't change the value of a life" as some kind of LiBeRaL eXtReMiSt ideology, they're so far down the far-right rabbit hole that they instinctively fight back against nearly any point made from a left-wing position whether they actually disagree with it or not... or they're just flat out racist. (Or both.)
Which one are you?

 

[Foxi4]

You haven't really demonstrated much. You've dodged the question for days now for seemingly no reason other than not wanting to directly admit to agreeing with us on anything significant.
It's really not that hard to just say it.
Literally stating that the lives of black people are, in fact, no less valuable than the lives of people with other skin colors should not be difficult, nor is it part of a virtue contest or anything Orwellian.
There are only three reasons anyone would refuse to say it.
Either they're so far down the far-right rabbit hole that they treat the relatively mild notion of "skin color doesn't change the value of a life" as some kind of LiBeRaL eXtReMiSt ideology, they're so far down the far-right rabbit hole that they instinctively fight back against nearly any point made from a left-wing position whether they actually disagree with it or not... or they're just flat out racist. (Or both.)
Which one are you?

To the contrary, I specifically stated that all people are created equal - this includes black people. My point of contention is that I'm expected to use very specific phrasing that expresses the same idea, and I'm not going to do that - on principle and for personal amusement.

 

[tthousand]

Another prejudice comment from the left.

FACT CHECK: Just because you say "black lives matter", it does not mean you are NOT a racist, or a good person. Implying other people are inherently bad because they do not agree 100% with you just shows a closed mind. Food for thought

 

[RandomUser]

Literally stating that the lives of black people are, in fact, no less valuable than the lives of people with other skin colors should not be difficult, nor is it part of a virtue contest or anything Orwellian.

That is the issue that I'm seeing, some members on here are actually implying that black lives is worth more then white and/or other race lives.
There is at least one member on here said that "all lives matter" to another member, but sadly their arrogance cannot comprehend what "all" means.

 

[tthousand]

That is the issue that I'm seeing, some members on here are actually implying that black lives is worth more then white and/or other race lives.
There is at least one member one here said that "all lives matter" to another member, but sadly their arrogance cannot comprehend what "all" means.

Thank you for putting that into terms everyone should easily be able to comprehend, with perhaps the exception of the mentally anorexic.

The end of the day, it does not really MATTER what any of us actually think. All lives matter (including frogs), while at the same time, no lives matter. If an asteroid hit the planet tomorrow and wiped out all life but the Earth still stood... guess what, time would still go on.

 

[Valwinz]

BASED BIDEN
Failed to fetch tweet https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1383143783303417856

also remember when the Asian stuff that was happening and someone say Asian lives matter and BLM people been so good and great attacked the person lol