Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[Deleted member 414991]

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[tabzer]

Nice straw man. As far as I am concerned I have not defined the word "fit". And you haven't presented any clear objection to what whatever you think I've defined it as. But if we are debating what the word fit means in the context of survival of the fittest. What I mean when I'm talking about it is how it is used in the terms of natural selection. That's it. I can only refer you the theory after that.

You used the phrase,"survival of the fittest" to describe your approach (and anticipated survival), while PREACHING of jumbo13's anticipated (and hopeful) demise. Let me be frank. Do you think it is fit to run away from a virus, or do you think it is fit to confront/survive a virus? Can it be possible that both are correct? Why does jumbo have to fail, and you succeed, for survival of the fittest to be even be inserted into the conversation? How you decide to apply your understanding of science doesn't make what you do "science". Science is study, not proselytization. There is no, "I respect science, so therefore I am superior". No. You are just an *******.

Again, I don't understand what you're talking about. Whose interpretation are we talking about here? Sounds like the intrepretation of your straw man.

Strawman is a nice buzzword. Maybe you can figure out what it means someday.

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159 is next.

 

[mammastuffing]

You used the phrase,"survival of the fittest" to describe your approach (and anticipated survival), while PREACHING of jumbo13's anticipated (and hopeful) demise.

First of all, yeah, I got angry at him for being rude and I said something I shouldn't have and I apologized for it.

Let me be frank.Do you think it is fit to run away from a virus, or do you think it is fit to confront/survive a virus? Can it be possible that both are correct?

Both could be fit, for sure. I think I would say that any genome that can survive in its environment and procreate is fit for that environment.

Why does jumbo have to fail, and you succeed, for survival of the fittest to be even be inserted into the conversation?

Yeah, it's probably not applicable in the context and I'll concede that. If that was your whole point, then you need to work on how to make your points more clear.

How you decide to apply your understanding of science doesn't make what you do "science". Science is study, not proselytization. There is no, "I respect science, so therefore I am superior". No. You are just an asshole.

Yeah... I'm the asshole, good one.

 

[smf]

You say nobody is more hate filed than an atheist. Yet most wars in the world have been over religion.

Well that was often the excuse but people create religions so they can control people & when it gets big enough, then they go to war.
The people who buy into the religion are not necessarily bad people, although they might be but you get good and bad atheists too.

There are pros and cons with religions and with atheism.

I think many religions have gotten it backwards, they have a creation myth which is supposed to justify their rules. Why not do what (some) atheists do and have rules that justify themselves?

 

[tabzer]

Yeah, it's probably not applicable in the context and I'll concede that. If that was your whole point, then you need to work on how to make your points more clear.

Maybe I ended up being too impatient with you, but I was being subtle so you could own it. Maybe it's a cultural difference that is difficult to understand.

Yeah... I'm the asshole, good one.

"The" asshole is an exclusive term. I try my best to respect the nuance.

 

[Xzi]

158 pages

58 pages ago I said they'd need 200 more to get out all the tears. They're well on their way.

 

[tabzer]

58 pages ago I said they'd need 200 more to get out all the tears. They're well on their way.

How dare you say that and not link the reference?

 

[djpannda]

What happen with all those lawsuit? Pennsylvania's secretary of state on Tuesday certified the results of its presidential election, confirming that President-elect Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump ..

 

[smf]

What happen with all those lawsuit? Pennsylvania's secretary of state on Tuesday certified the results of its presidential election, confirming that President-elect Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump ..

They've said they want the lawsuits thrown out so they can appeal them up to the supreme court.

I'm not convinced this isn't just a tactic to enrage their base for Trump 2024. If he isn't in prison by then

 

[KingVamp]

Don't worry, Hunter's laptop will save the day.

 

[Deleted member 414991]

They've said they want the lawsuits thrown out so they can appeal them up to the supreme court.

I'm not convinced this isn't just a tactic to enrage their base for Trump 2024. If he isn't in prison by then

Failing up to the supreme court is not a viable strategy- appelate courts, which the Supreme Court is one of, do not allow the introduction of new facts or evidence into a case. They merely reexamine cases that have been appealed.

 

[Xzi]

Failing up to the supreme court is not a viable strategy- appelate courts, which the Supreme Court is one of, do not allow the introduction of new facts or evidence into a case. They merely reexamine cases that have been appealed.

And they won't hear a case that's already been refused a hearing by a lower court. They'll never reach as high as the Supreme Court.

At this point, I think every state Trump was "contesting" has had its vote certified anyway (save maybe PA). Overturning the vote was a long shot BEFORE it was certified. Afterward, there's zero chance of that happening. No judge is going to risk their seat by ruling that elections don't matter. Trump might as well be last week's rotting garbage now, even to people who were appointed by him.

 

[Darth Meteos]

I tried to watch that but as soon as I saw it was Vaush-oline, I quickly had to stop it and erase my watch history. Thanks for trying to have my Youtube recommended videos fill up with racist left-wing mush brained shit.

pretty cringe
the others at least engaged with a point even if it derailed or wasn't the true point of the video
at least there's hope that the others are capable of listening to- if not absorbing- discussion

you're pretty sad

Biden's not getting a mandate we are going full civil unrest till compromise or suit for peace occurs.

Okay, so you don't have a line and are just looking for concessions. That's an answer.

I approached the issue with an open mind by stating "maybe he won, maybe he lost, let's see what the court cases turn up" and so far the court cases haven't turned up any wide spread voter fraud.

I mean, that's good. You've grasped the fact that fraud has not been proven through evidence. That's a step in the right direction.

I didn't want to watch 18 minutes because the main in the video starts off claiming he's a socialist and socialism would ruin the USA, but the intent of the video is fine by me ....

This... Man, this part breaks my heart. I'm sure you're gonna take this as an insult, but I genuinely feel bad that someone holding another view than you causes you to have to limit your exposure to them. You seem like a cult member who can't have friends outside the "family"... You even said the intent was fine, but you still had to get rid of it.

Fuck, I dunno. Best of luck, dude.

 

[gregory-samba]

This... Man, this part breaks my heart. I'm sure you're gonna take this as an insult, but I genuinely feel bad that someone holding another view than you causes you to have to limit your exposure to them. You seem like a cult member who can't have friends outside the "family"... You even said the intent was fine, but you still had to get rid of it.

Fuck, I dunno. Best of luck, dude.

Nah, I just don't like spending my time listening to bullshit socialists. History has proven time and time again what happens. You're not going to be able to sell me it. I watched enough to get the general idea of what he was trying to convey. That's more than someone on the left would do with right wing media.

 

[KingVamp]

More than 80 million votes for Joe Biden.

 

[smf]

Failing up to the supreme court is not a viable strategy- appelate courts, which the Supreme Court is one of, do not allow the introduction of new facts or evidence into a case. They merely reexamine cases that have been appealed.

Does that matter? His legal team is obviously crazy, they might think that Amy Coney Barrett will save them.

History has proven time and time again what happens.

What happens? Can you provide examples, should be easy.

Overturning the vote was a long shot BEFORE it was certified. Afterward, there's zero chance of that happening. No judge is going to risk their seat by ruling that elections don't matter.

What would happen if there was actually fraud & not Trump's imagined fraud?

Surely there should be some remedy for that after the certification?

 

[Xzi]

What would happen if there was actually fraud & not Trump's imagined fraud?

It would have been discovered during the recount for any given state at the latest. Once the vote is certified, that's that. Trump's legal team has presented exactly zero evidence of fraud. Just a lot of meaningless talk.

 

[smf]

It would have been discovered during the recount for any given state at the latest.

How? I am not saying that there was any fraud, but if illegal ballots were present in the first count then they will be present in the second. If evidence turned up next year, what would happen?

 

[Xzi]

How? I am not saying that there was any fraud, but if illegal ballots were present in the first count then they will be present in the second. If evidence turned up next year, what would happen?

If there's no evidence now, there's not suddenly going to be any new evidence a year after the vote is certified. Every ballot is checked against voter registration data, both parties have people in the room who do that during the count, as well as managers/overseers.

 

[smf]

If there's no evidence now, there's not suddenly going to be any new evidence a year after the vote is certified.

If they used that argument with other crimes then nothing would get solved.

With everything on computer now, I wonder just how possible it would be to hack in and register people.