Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[Lacius]

"Whites are racist because they're white."

That's not what I said.

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I agree that nobody should get preferential treatment based on their gender or color of their skin. If anything everybody should be treated equally and be considered by their merit. I have been noticing some trends on preferential treatment over the years.


Oppressed? How?
Hmm, of all the African American people I have talked to, don't mentioned of being oppressed, they say they work hard just like everyone else to get where they are at or they are happy with their life. There is a few whom I am friends with.

We were talking about slavery.

 

[Deleted member 326676]

We have fifty states, not five.

You showed a colored map with the intention of exaggerating the voting demographics.

I corrected that.

 

[Deleted User]

.It was a joke. I don't know what I believe. Everything here is conjecture.

Bullshit

I still think it's amazing that you seem to think there was no vote fraud. A lot of people were left disappointed with Obama's lackluster message of "hope" that didn't seem to amount to anything tangible. It's hard for me to believe that Biden would get more votes than Obama. But I can see that you want to believe that the election process is not corrupt, so this would be the rationalization.

Then explain this post. This was response to xzi from you.
You know exactly what you believe in.
How?
what's stated between the lines within this response.
"I still think it's amazing that you seem to think there was no vote fraud."
this proves that you believe in voter fraud. It's a either or situation in the specific. you either do believe or you don't. Otherwise, you wouldn't have responded to xzi.
which also means the context you saw that post through, wasn't a joke. It was a serious response.



Oh... by the way. You still failed to refute the fact that what I said had everything to do with you.

 

[Lacius]

. "There doesn't seem to be any evidence "does not equal "there is zero evidence."



It was a joke. I don't know what I believe. Everything here is conjecture.

There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

You showed a colored map with the intention of exaggerating the voting demographics.

I corrected that.

The fate of the fifty shouldn't be determined by the five.

 

[Deleted member 326676]

The fate of the fifty shouldn't be determined by the five.

Wide spaces where nobody lives is colored red across your map. That's disingenuous and highly misleading. As my map illustrated for you, land doesn't vote -- people do.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Wide spaces where nobody lives is colored red across your map. That's disingenuous and highly misleading. As my map illustrated for you, land doesn't vote -- people do.

Abolish big cities.

 

[Deleted member 326676]

Abolish big cities.

Or abolish the winner-takes-all electoral college.

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Not so red anymore.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Not so red anymore.

So you want the entire vote to be determined by a few big cities. Interesting.

 

[Lacius]

Abolish big cities.

The maps you so desperately cling to are maps of land, not maps of people.

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So you want the entire vote to be determined by a few big cities. Interesting.

A few big cities would not determine the outcome of a popular vote election.

 

[Deleted member 326676]

So you want the entire vote to be determined by a few big cities. Interesting.

I want the election to be determined by voters, not cities or wide open spaces.

 

[Lacius]

The fate of the fifty shouldn't be determined by the five.

That's what the electoral college potentially does.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

I want the election to be determined by voters, not cities or wide open spaces.

I wouldn't be surprised if 13% of the big cities contains 50% of the people.

The maps you so desperately cling to are maps of land, not maps of people.

When most of the US votes red and the vote ends up going blue simply because 50% of the population lives in 13 big cities, something's screwy.

A few big cities would not determine the outcome of a popular vote election.

The map that I posted would say otherwise.

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That's what the electoral college potentially does.

The Electoral College isn't perfect (perfect would be one vote per county), but it's better than popular vote in regard to equal states.

 

[Lacius]

I wouldn't be surprised if 13% of the big cities contains 50% of the people.

When most of the US votes red and the vote ends up going blue simply because 50% of the population lives in 13 big cities, something's screwy.

The map that I posted would say otherwise.

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The Electoral College isn't perfect (perfect would be one vote per county), but it's better than popular vote in regard to equal states.

Land doesn't have voting rights.

The only fair system is having each person's vote be of equal worth, not giving some people more voting power because of the state they live in.

 

[RandomUser]

We were talking about slavery.

After pondering about this, I think I am starting to see what you mean. It was basically just the African American that were slaves and no other race were a slave, hence the oppression. Make sense now.
Then there is a so-called "white slaves" known as "indentured servants". Perhaps not as harsh compared to slaves of African American.

 

[Deleted member 326676]

I wouldn't be surprised if 13% of the big cities contains 50% of the people.

When most of the US votes red and the vote ends up going blue simply because 50% of the population lives in 13 big cities, something's screwy.

The map that I posted would say otherwise.

Your argument is that living in a city should decrease the value of a citizen's vote. My argument is that all votes should be treated equally.

Who wins this argument? Here's a hint:

It's not you.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Land doesn't have voting rights.

The only fair system is having each person's vote be of equal worth, not giving some people more voting power because of the state they live in.

Alright. You give me equal distribution of people among cities, I'll give you equal voting power among people.

Your argument is that living in a city should decrease the value of a citizen's vote. My argument is that all votes should be treated equally.

Who wins this argument? Here's a hint:

It's not you.

Yes, all electoral votes should be treated equally.

 

[Lacius]

Alright. You give me equal distribution of people among cities, I'll give you equal voting power among people.

Yes, all electoral votes should be treated equally.

It's amazing how the conservatives have talked themselves into being anti-democratic.

Telling people where they can/can't live is a violation of people's freedoms. You know, that thing you pretend to care about when it suits you?

 

[tabzer]

Bullshit

Then explain this post. This was response to xzi from you.
You know exactly what you believe in.
How?
what's stated between the lines within this response.
"I still think it's amazing that you seem to think there was no vote fraud."
this proves that you believe in voter fraud. It's a either or situation in the specific. you either do believe or you don't. Otherwise, you wouldn't have responded to xzi.
which also means the context you saw that post through, wasn't a joke. It was a serious response.



Oh... by the way. You still failed to refute the fact that what I said had everything to do with you.

You are right. I am skeptical of Ameica's democratic process. Vote fraud does happen (fact).

 

[Lacius]

You are right. I am skeptical of Ameica's democratic process. Vote fraud does happen (fact).

There is, however, no evidence of widespread voter fraud.