Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[tabzer]

Regardless, Trump and his legal time have not provided any evidence of widespread voter fraud.

That's more honest than the zero evidence claim. It doesn't potentially create false expectations.

 

[Lacius]

but I believe the electoral college is better than allowing a bunch of dope fiends in mega cities to choose elected officials while the rest of the country is torn to shreds by their Liberal policies.

The Electoral College is undemocratic, not to mention inherently racist by design.

Abolishing the Electoral College also wouldn't lead to cities determining the outcomes of presidential elections.

Unfortunately Biden will most likely be the next President

Assuming he doesn't die or otherwise become incapacitated, there is a 100% chance that Joe Biden will be the next president of the United States.

but if Los Angles, New York, Chicago and Detroit are any indication we're headed down a dark road of sin, decay, misery and despair.

1. These cities do not represent "sin, decay, misery, and despair."
2. For fun, I added up the populations of these cities, and they make up up 4.8% of the US population. They're not about to unilaterally control the results of a popular vote presidential election.

Someone in this thread mentioned something about slavery, something about mistreatment, or something along that line:
I'd like to point out that even people of color also owned slaves as well.
https://historyengine.richmond.edu/episodes/view/6699
https://slate.com/news-and-politics...s-people-trot-out-about-slavery-debunked.html

Who fucking cares? It's not at all relevant, and slavery was unarguably an anti-black institution in the United States.

That's more honest than the zero evidence claim. It doesn't potentially create false expectations.

Trump and his legal team have not provided any evidence of widespread voter fraud, and there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud.

 

[tabzer]

there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud.

And that's a positive assertion you cannot support.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

 

[RandomUser]

Who fucking cares? It's not at all relevant, and slavery was unarguably an anti-black institution in the United States.

Nobody cares and you're right about that. Not disputing that at all. However African American should share some of the blame for participating on slave ownership weather then blaming it all on one race.

 

[SonowRaevius]

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[djpannda]

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[UltraSUPRA]

33%>>>1%

 

[Lacius]

And that's a positive assertion you cannot support.

Acknowledging an apparent absent of evidence of widespread voter fraud is not a positive claim. Like, by definition. The positive claim is there is widespread voter fraud.

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Nobody cares and you're right about that. Not disputing that at all. However African American should share some of the blame for participating on slave ownership weather then blaming it all on one race.

No, they shouldn't.

 

[gregory-samba]

Someone in this thread mentioned something about slavery, something about mistreatment, or something along that line:
I'd like to point out that even people of color also owned slaves as well.
https://historyengine.richmond.edu/episodes/view/6699
https://slate.com/news-and-politics...s-people-trot-out-about-slavery-debunked.html

To add to that the black slave owners in Africa were selling their slaves to white Democrats back in the States. The Democrats fought a war mainly to keep their slaves and lost. After that they created the KKK and more recently the Jim Crowe laws. Now they're using minorities as pawns to fuel their racist hatred towards certain people and certain skin colors. The Republican party however was mainly created to stop slavery. Although there still is a slave trade in the world today, but the USA has stopped it all together. It was wrong to claim someone other then your skin color is worth less or more than you. That includes blacks, Asians or Latino's getting preferential treatment over whites or whites getting preferential treatment over other skin colors. Most normal Republicans and Conservatives don't judge others by their skin color while the Democrats and Liberals still do.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

I, for one, believe that race doesn't matter.

 

[RandomUser]

No, they shouldn't.

Can you elaborate why? Perhaps I can gain some insight from why they shouldn't.

 

[Lacius]

Can you elaborate why? Perhaps I can gain some insight from why they shouldn't.

White people in the Americas systemically oppressed Black people in this country. There was nothing systemic about anything you're talking about.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

White people in the Americas systemically oppressed Black people in this country. There was nothing systemic about anything you're talking about.

"Whites are racist because they're white."

 

[RandomUser]

To add to that the black slave owners in Africa were selling their slaves to white Democrats back in the States. The Democrats fought a war mainly to keep their slaves and lost. After that they created the KKK and more recently the Jim Crowe laws. Now they're using minorities as pawns to fuel their racist hatred towards certain people and certain skin colors. The Republican party however was mainly created to stop slavery. Although there still is a slave trade in the world today, but the USA has stopped it all together. It was wrong to claim someone other then your skin color is worth less or more than you. That includes blacks, Asians or Latino's getting preferential treatment over whites or whites getting preferential treatment over other skin colors. Most normal Republicans and Conservatives don't judge others by their skin color while the Democrats and Liberals still do.

I agree that nobody should get preferential treatment based on their gender or color of their skin. If anything everybody should be treated equally and be considered by their merit. I have been noticing some trends on preferential treatment over the years.

White people in the Americas systemically oppressed Black people in this country. There was nothing systemic about anything you're talking about.

Oppressed? How?
Hmm, of all the African American people I have talked to, don't mentioned of being oppressed, they say they work hard just like everyone else to get where they are at or they are happy with their life. There is a few whom I am friends with.

 

[gregory-samba]

I, for one, believe that race doesn't matter.

I believe it matters, but shouldn't be used as a reason to discriminate. Your ethnicity and race are where you came from, the sort of people you were born around, the type of native food that grows or is prepared by your kind. Certain races are also predisposed to ailments that don't effect other races that badly so Doctor's need to be aware and treat their patients accordingly. I've had black friends, Mexican friends, British friends, Portuguese fiends Chinese and Japanese friends and each of their cultures had something unique to bring to the table.

You can be aware and celebrate others differences, but it's when you start to give one the edge over the other or deny services to one over the other it starts to get negative and most people don't want to be negative or live negative lives. The Liberals in the USA are currently on a "hate whitey" racist movement as you can barely load up any of their news sources and not be inundated with hate stories against white skinned people. The Liberals just traded one skin color over the other, but they don't even believe you can be racist against the majority and that's a lie brought on because of their inappropriate affair with socialism.

 

[Deleted User]

Looks widespread to me.

You're correct on your statement that it wasn't relating to a court case. One who did as much as work as I did and trying to figure out what I want to say in one reply is not easy. So, I'll correct my statement to you responding to a election fraud article.
But, it doesn't detract from the point that was implied by yourself.
You believed that it was widespread. that voter fraud exists.
further proven by this response

I won't count on any of this to be true, but if Trump is going to win the election, this could be a "how". @Lacius

If it is true, I can see this being very troubling for those who have already committed themselves to "knowing" the outcome.

This proof that what I said about people believing that trump could still win, and that you believed in election fraud.

That's false.

It was in direct response to "Texas Social Worker Charged With 134 Felony Counts Of Elections Fraud" and if you paid attention to the mugshot, you could see that it is obviously a joke.

Oh, looks like your playing something out of the handbook. Fun.
Yeah the "it's a prank bro" isn't going to fly. Reason why?
Because you didn't link it as a joke.
More accurately, you didn't link it yourself.
ForgotWhom brought the article in question as a serious response. Therefore, no, your argument doesn't work here. Because you didn't treat it as a joke. You asked that question seriously. And Lacius responded.
It also doesn't help that your now in a corner. Because you haven't refuted my points.
You've sidestepped.
remember your original argument?

Oh that's cool. You can retroactively change the meaning and the intention of what you said by using a switch in your mind. Too bad nothing of what you are saying has anything to do with what I've said.

Yeah, sure, totally doesn't seem like it has nothing to do with what you said if your taking issue with it.
Oh. And don't pull the "Lacius or" (x person) here "didn't tell me that there wasn't wide spread voter fraud with evidence"
specifically from me

"Now... Let's play a game
Was tabzer told that there wasn't widespread voter fraud?
For any skeptics, or for any of those who wonder if it's real or not. It is not.
Why can I say that definitively?
https://apnews.com/article/ap-explains-fail-prove-election-fraud-d0f13ae6ca370c8716706d3f7d85659e
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/13/us/politics/trump-election-lawsuits.html"
And from Lacius themselves. Which since you just agreed to arguments on the same page can be presented as evidence.

There is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud. Put up or shut up.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/us/politics/voting-fraud.html

https://apnews.com/article/election...litics-media-1bf96bf3910bdcbe0f125958357c8f1a

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...nt-trumps-false-claims-vote-fraud-chronology/

Again...
Try to refute my claim that you believe that there is widespread voter fraud.
(since what I said can be confusing. It basically is saying. Does he have anything to counter my point that he does believe in widespread voter fraud.)
Even states
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/us/politics/voting-fraud.html
are agreeing.

Also try to refute that my point has nothing to do with what you were saying.
either you stop your cognitive dissonance now. Or look like a fool to any eyes who see you.

 

[LumInvader]

This is why we have the Electoral College.
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[UltraSUPRA]

We have fifty states, not five.

 

[tabzer]

Acknowledging an apparent absent of evidence of widespread voter fraud is not a positive claim.

. "There doesn't seem to be any evidence "does not equal "there is zero evidence."

Therefore, no, your argument doesn't work here. Because you didn't treat it as a joke.

It was a joke. I don't know what I believe. Everything here is conjecture.