[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

[Lacius]

I was on Stonetoss's Twitter for five seconds and found this.
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What are you even blathering about? 50% of the electorate is responsible for 50% of the votes (when talking about popular vote).

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You're incorrect. It's the Liberals who lie, cheat and steal, burn buildings, loot and riot all over the fact they couldn't accept the results of the 2016 election while defending wife beating drug using criminals that tried to pay bills with illegal fake cash. They also support perverts and illegal aliens. So if it's okay to do the same back then it would be fine if Trump refuses to accept the results of the 2020 election. How do you like those chicken wings?

Fact check:

1. Trump is the only candidate trying to cheat his way to victory.
2. The actions of some rioters are not reflective of BLM or liberals broadly.
3. Broadly speaking, there were no riots in response to the results of the 2016 election.
4. Liberals do not generally defend "wife-beating drug-using criminals who use fake cash."
5. "Pervert" is a subjective term that you should probably better define, but Trump's the one who openly admits to grabbing women by the pussy, etc.
6. (Opinion, not fact) Illegal immigrants should have a pathway to citizenship.
7. Whether or not the Democrats refuse to accept the results of an election (mini fact check: Democrats have accepted the results of past elections), that has no bearing on whether or not it's anti-democratic to refuse to accept the results of the 2020 election.

 

[SANIC]

Anything related to StoneToss's twitter is already sketch. I remember reading some of his stuff and others that he posts about and wow, never seen that much "-phobes" in one place

 

[Taleweaver]

...I've got a question. I hate to ask because it inevitably leads to partizan responses, but still...

Was Trump at one point actually in the lead?


Look: because of the time difference, I was half asleep and barely got Biden's "I'm looking positive to this" message, immediately followed by Trump's tweets about Biden stealing the election. Not long followed by Trump trying to steal the election.

...but my local news station assigned the scores based on Associated Press. Biden was up fifty points at that time, though reporters warned that a few large states (among which Florida) would go to Trump (which, admittedly, they did).
And yes, they pointed out that fox calls out state winners a bit sooner than that (e.g. Arizona for Biden). Projections, yes, but fairly reliable ones.

So Trump sort of catched up. As in: no longer a fifty point gap but about ten to twenty points behind. Absolutely closer than polls had predicted, and I'd be lying if Trump didn't have a chance...but from what I can see he was never ahead. Yes, during his declaration there were a handful of states that leaned into Trump's camp, but which ones were those that would Trump actually pull over 270?


Since then, it moved to (as of current) 253 for Biden and 214 for Trump, as called out by Associated Press. I get that Trump wants things counted and checked, and he's well within his right to demand so. But demanding to stop counting votes? That's just chickening out. Trump's a participant in the election, not the overseeing committee. So again: file a complaint, demand recounts once they're complete, do whatever you want to do AFTER the votes are counted.


No, I don't buy his claim of corruption for one second. But my opinion's not the point: corruption should be proven and dealt with. Corruption claims have merit, even if they come from a person with zero credibility. But still: claims shouldn't be an excuse to commit corruption. Stopping voting counts is such an act. I don't fucking care if you think you're somehow entiteld to it: you're not.

So...wait until the votes are counted, then file complaints, have it investigated and let that "law & order" thing do its thing. Yeah, in supreme court, if it comes down to that. If they decide that you can be a democracy without counting all votes you might as well install Trump as emperor of the US, because then it doesn't really matter what the deplorables think.

 

[KingVamp]

Whether or not the Democrats refuse to accept the results of an election (mini fact check: Democrats have accepted the results of past elections), that has no bearing on whether or not it's anti-democratic to refuse to accept the results of the 2020 election.

I'm pretty sure he didn't accepted the popular vote, even when he won the election.

 

[Lacius]

I'm pretty sure he didn't accept the popular vote, even when he won the election.

You're right; Trump never accepted the results of even the 2016 election when referring to the popular vote.

 

[Big Man Tyrone2]

...I've got a question. I hate to ask because it inevitably leads to partizan responses, but still...

Was Trump at one point actually in the lead?


Look: because of the time difference, I was half asleep and barely got Biden's "I'm looking positive to this" message, immediately followed by Trump's tweets about Biden stealing the election. Not long followed by Trump trying to steal the election.

...but my local news station assigned the scores based on Associated Press. Biden was up fifty points at that time, though reporters warned that a few large states (among which Florida) would go to Trump (which, admittedly, they did).
And yes, they pointed out that fox calls out state winners a bit sooner than that (e.g. Arizona for Biden). Projections, yes, but fairly reliable ones.

So Trump sort of catched up. As in: no longer a fifty point gap but about ten to twenty points behind. Absolutely closer than polls had predicted, and I'd be lying if Trump didn't have a chance...but from what I can see he was never ahead. Yes, during his declaration there were a handful of states that leaned into Trump's camp, but which ones were those that would Trump actually pull over 270?


Since then, it moved to (as of current) 253 for Biden and 214 for Trump, as called out by Associated Press. I get that Trump wants things counted and checked, and he's well within his right to demand so. But demanding to stop counting votes? That's just chickening out. Trump's a participant in the election, not the overseeing committee. So again: file a complaint, demand recounts once they're complete, do whatever you want to do AFTER the votes are counted.


No, I don't buy his claim of corruption for one second. But my opinion's not the point: corruption should be proven and dealt with. Corruption claims have merit, even if they come from a person with zero credibility. But still: claims shouldn't be an excuse to commit corruption. Stopping voting counts is such an act. I don't fucking care if you think you're somehow entiteld to it: you're not.

So...wait until the votes are counted, then file complaints, have it investigated and let that "law & order" thing do its thing. Yeah, in supreme court, if it comes down to that. If they decide that you can be a democracy without counting all votes you might as well install Trump as emperor of the US, because then it doesn't really matter what the deplorables think.

Other than earlier in the election where states like Kentucky and Indiana (states which, obviously, will go to Trump) were being called, Trump was never really, "in the lead".

Trump supporters at the end of election day night saw huge leads in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, and assumed that Trump would win those races despite those states not counting Mail-In/Absentee ballots (which are overwhelmingly Democrat). Now, because of their ignorance, they are claiming voter fraud and are trying to claim that Pennsylvania will go to Trump, despite
#1 :the gap getting smaller and smaller and
#2 :Counties like Philly County and other big counties that heavily lean Dem not reporting their mail in ballots at this stage.

It's, imo, safe to say that Biden will win the election. I don't foresee a Trump win in Pennsylvania, and even if he does win Pennsylvania, Trump has to win Georgia (which is INCREDIBLY close compared to other elections, and Dem counties have yet to report), AZ (which is also close), and NV (which will most likely go to Biden).

SC shenanigans by the losers is guaranteed though. Explains Trump's rush to fill the SC seat, and how confident Trump really is in his reelection.

 

[gregory-samba]

...I've got a question. I hate to ask because it inevitably leads to partizan responses, but still...

Was Trump at one point actually in the lead?


Look: because of the time difference, I was half asleep and barely got Biden's "I'm looking positive to this" message, immediately followed by Trump's tweets about Biden stealing the election. Not long followed by Trump trying to steal the election.

...but my local news station assigned the scores based on Associated Press. Biden was up fifty points at that time, though reporters warned that a few large states (among which Florida) would go to Trump (which, admittedly, they did).
And yes, they pointed out that fox calls out state winners a bit sooner than that (e.g. Arizona for Biden). Projections, yes, but fairly reliable ones.

So Trump sort of catched up. As in: no longer a fifty point gap but about ten to twenty points behind. Absolutely closer than polls had predicted, and I'd be lying if Trump didn't have a chance...but from what I can see he was never ahead. Yes, during his declaration there were a handful of states that leaned into Trump's camp, but which ones were those that would Trump actually pull over 270?


Since then, it moved to (as of current) 253 for Biden and 214 for Trump, as called out by Associated Press. I get that Trump wants things counted and checked, and he's well within his right to demand so. But demanding to stop counting votes? That's just chickening out. Trump's a participant in the election, not the overseeing committee. So again: file a complaint, demand recounts once they're complete, do whatever you want to do AFTER the votes are counted.


No, I don't buy his claim of corruption for one second. But my opinion's not the point: corruption should be proven and dealt with. Corruption claims have merit, even if they come from a person with zero credibility. But still: claims shouldn't be an excuse to commit corruption. Stopping voting counts is such an act. I don't fucking care if you think you're somehow entiteld to it: you're not.

So...wait until the votes are counted, then file complaints, have it investigated and let that "law & order" thing do its thing. Yeah, in supreme court, if it comes down to that. If they decide that you can be a democracy without counting all votes you might as well install Trump as emperor of the US, because then it doesn't really matter what the deplorables think.

I don't believe Trump was ever in the lead, but it's still close and he could still win. I just don't think he will as the leftist media has been fighting for this election since they refused to accept the 2016 election results. Trump values freedom and liberty and the left can't have that as it doesn't fit into their socialist agenda and their media has spent 4 years running headlines that were mere fabrications or slanted truths.

I'm actually not too sure how recounts are handled, but it seems that it's within the rules to request them even before the final tally is made. I also don't want there to be any invalid votes, but then I really don't feel like waiting weeks to figure out who won. Sadly, due to people being manipulated by the leftist media they overwhelmed the system with mail in ballots and now we just have to wait until they are counted.

 

[smf]

Plus you're probably not even going to know you have it if you catch it so I'm not sure what the big deal is.

Maths is obviously not your strong point, out of 140 million if you probably don't die of covid then still quite a lot of people die.

So you can choose russian roulette of visiting a polling booth, or using your democratic right to voting by mail.

I'm sure if they knew that an angry troll on the internet would become unhappy then they would have risked death for you.

Trump is lying scum and he's brain washed you.

I'm actually not too sure how recounts are handled, but it seems that it's within the rules to request them even before the final tally is made.

It depends on the state, I think one of them can't be requested until December 1st when the official results are issued. Other states have about three weeks to issue the results. Trumps lawsuits are without merit, they are just to stoke the civil war he has planned.

It's like taking a shit on your ex girlfriends lawn because she dumped you.

 

[gregory-samba]

SC shenanigans by the losers is guaranteed though. Explains Trump's rush to fill the SC seat, and how confident Trump really is in his reelection.

I'm interested what you think about the shenanigans by the Liberals during the past 4 years? Their refusal to accept the results, fabricated news stories, deciding to impeach Trump before he took office regardless of guilt and the Russian Collusion Hoax?

 

[Lacius]

I don't believe Trump was ever in the lead, but it's still close and he could still win. I just don't think he will as the leftist media has been fighting for this election since they refused to accept the 2016 election results. Trump values freedom and liberty and the left can't have that as it doesn't fit into their socialist agenda and their media has spent 4 years running headlines that were mere fabrications or slanted truths.

I'm actually not too sure how recounts are handled, but it seems that it's within the rules to request them even before the final tally is made. I also don't want there to be any invalid votes, but then I really don't feel like waiting weeks to figure out who won. Sadly, due to people being manipulated by the leftist media they overwhelmed the system with mail in ballots and now we just have to wait until they are counted.

Fact check - Nobody refused the 2016 election results.

 

[gregory-samba]

Maths is obviously not your strong point, out of 140 million if you probably don't die of covid then still quite a lot of people die.

So you can choose russian roulette of visiting a polling booth, or using your democratic right to voting by mail.

I'm sure if they knew that an angry troll on the internet would become unhappy then they would have risked death for you.

Trump is lying scum and he's brain washed you.

I gladly took the 00.8% risk of becoming infected and handed in my ballot in person and I've also ignored the quarantine orders since this debacle started and I still haven't even gotten a slight cough. There's much more deadly things in life that everyone simply ignores so I don't see any need to freak out over something that's not near as deadly as other things that we accept as just part of life.

 

[Rail Fighter]

As long as you think Trump perma lying to whip up civil unrest, just because he hates losing, is nothing to worry about.

To 47.9% of the voters in the election all the lies coming out of Trump's mouth is true & they will always believe it even if it's been proved false beyond reasonable doubt. He knows this, it's all part of his plan.

He'll be rightfully fired in January, but he won't care about the damage that he has caused in the meantime.

One of his lawsuits has been thrown out by a republican judge, so at least he can't say it's all part of the democrats plan.

For example?

 

[smf]

I gladly took the 00.8% risk of becoming infected and handed in my ballot in person and I've also ignored the quarantine orders since this debacle started and I still haven't even gotten a slight cough. There's much more deadly things in life that everyone simply ignores so I don't see any need to freak out over something that's not near as deadly as other things that we accept as just part of life.

People smoke all the time and don't immediately die of cancer. You seem to have some perverted ideas about risk.

What things do you "accept as just part of life" that is deadlier?

For example?

Example of what? A lie? He claimed that he'd won the election when the votes were still being counted. If you're saying he's not lying then he's a moron who is unfit for office. Which is it?

He's a sociopath who accuses others of what he is guilty of "stealing an election" "a fraud of the american people". Yes that is exactly what Trump is trying to do.

 

[Joom]

Fourth, tenth and fourteenth amendments.

You probably shouldn't quote amendments if you have no idea what they mean. None of these say the president can't enact a national plan during a pandemic. Nor do they say he's allowed to sling executive orders in order to bypass the senate and the house, but here we are. I swear, it's like you all have Stockholm syndrome.

 

[Lacius]

I gladly took the 00.8% risk of becoming infected and handed in my ballot in person and I've also ignored the quarantine orders since this debacle started and I still haven't even gotten a slight cough. There's much more deadly things in life that everyone simply ignores so I don't see any need to freak out over something that's not near as deadly as other things that we accept as just part of life.

Fact check:

1. Just because you haven't gotten sick doesn't mean you won't get sick.
2. Just because you haven't felt sick doesn't mean you haven't gotten sick and spread it.
3. Your choices affect whether or not others get infected and potentially die.
4. 235,000 Americans have died from COVID-19 so far this year. That number will likely hit around 372,000 by January 20.

 

[Deleted User]

incoming meltdown in 3, 2, 1

 

[Joom]

I was on Stonetoss's Twitter for five seconds and found this.
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*cough* Mail-ins... *cough* Oooo, this level of cope is just so delicious.

Was Trump at one point actually in the lead?

Yes, for just a couple of hours Tuesday night. And then the moment he lost the lead, he tried to call a coup. I don't see how republicans can call themselves patriotic when the republican party couldn't be the furthest thing from freedom and democracy.

 

[gregory-samba]

People smoke all the time and don't immediately die of cancer. You seem to have some perverted ideas about risk.

What things do you "accept as just part of life" that is deadlier?

What you substance you smoke can greatly increase the risk of death. What other causes are there? Car accidents, obesity, deadly drugs, cancer are a few of the main ones. Though, I don't accept them all. Driving, sure, it's the 3rd most killer in the USA, but I stay clear of drugs made from battery acid and draino, I exercise and eat well so I'm not obese and I try to cut down on things that would cause me to have a heart attack or stroke or that are known to cause cancer. It shouldn't matter that some of these things don't kill you right away because the Chinese Wuhan Corona Virus is also known to take its time.

Look at it this way. Only 00.8% are going to die, and out of that % most are old people with preexisting problems. They would have died regardless. Sure, it sucks, but death is part of life. There's no reason to be hiding from something that's not that deadly. Well, there is a reason from the Left and it's all about power and control, but for people who value personal freedom and choice there's not really much extra to worry about.

 

[Joom]

Look at it this way. Only 00.8% are going to die, and out of that % most are old people with preexisting problems.

Except there have been deaths in all age groups. And if you don't want to take the death toll seriously, what about the life-long damage COVID causes? It's leaving people with both physical and neurological disabilities. But hey, no big deal amirite? It's just a hoax from the satanic, pedophillic deep-state and Hollywood elite Jews. Jesus Christ, you seriously can't be this dense. You're obviously not a doctor, let alone a scientist, so why do you disregard what actual doctors and scientists have to say? Science doesn't have an agenda to push. It isn't political. Science can either be true or false, and to decry truth as false because you believe conspiracy theories is just astounding. Like I said, it's you and people like you who are to blame for COVID being as bad as it is because you opinionated, politically obsessed dumb shits refuse to accept science because a retard got on TV and tickled your balls so you'd believe otherwise. You're part of a death cult. Recognize that already.

 

[Big Man Tyrone2]

I'm interested what you think about the shenanigans by the Liberals during the past 4 years? Their refusal to accept the results, fabricated news stories, deciding to impeach Trump before he took office regardless of guilt and the Russian Collusion Hoax?

The Russia Situation, in my opinion, had some merit in the sense that there are Russian bots on the internet who spread false information that tends to advocate for Trump. I doubt there was collusion at an election wide level. Trump has enough impeachable offenses that he has picked up in his time in office anyways. It also appears to me that Republicans en masse are refusing to accept the results of this election, so theres that.

Republicans are also hell-bent on assuming everything not Pro-Trump is clearly Communist, Socialist, Chinese Propaganda. Reminds me of the Alien and Sedition Acts. Clearly anything not Pro-Adams is French propaganda.