• Friendly reminder: The politics section is a place where a lot of differing opinions are raised. You may not like what you read here but it is someone's opinion. As long as the debate is respectful you are free to debate freely. Also, the views and opinions expressed by forum members may not necessarily reflect those of GBAtemp. Messages that the staff consider offensive or inflammatory may be removed in line with existing forum terms and conditions.

[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

For whom will/would you vote?


  • Total voters
    646
  • Poll closed .

omgcat

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Feb 15, 2009
Messages
869
Trophies
2
XP
2,696
Country
United States
This is laughable. Most half educated citizens knew this would happen as soon as schools started back up and has nothing to do with democrats or republicans. Now they could of slowed the spread down if they kept sports and academic functions closed but hey people are not that smart...so maybe they didnt know that opening schools would cause that, fuck its a paradox. Damn its trumps fault again.

hey, our president is saying that covid is over, nothing to worry about now.

seriously:

White House lists ending Covid-19 pandemic as an accomplishment despite cases spiking to record levels
 
Last edited by omgcat,

wartutor

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2012
Messages
759
Trophies
1
Age
45
XP
2,387
Country
United States
hey, our president is saying that covid is over, nothing to worry about now.

seriously:

White House lists ending Covid-19 pandemic as an accomplishment despite cases spiking to record levels
The great work the Trump Administration is doing to end the pandemic is a top priority and worthy of highlighting," she said in an email.

The internal report that the news release was describing did not say that the Covid-19 pandemic is over. It merely touted the administration's various actions to fight it.

"Since the start of the pandemic, the Administration has taken several actions to engage scientists in academia, industry, and government to understand and defeat this disease," the report says.

It later states that the administration's vaccine initiative "Operation Warp Speed, public-private partnerships, and other decisive actions taken by the Trump Administration have provided American scientists, engineers, and healthcare professionals with the knowledge, tools, and technologies needed to understand and defeat this 'invisible enemy.' "


Quoted straight from your source how about read and understand what you are quoting.
 

omgcat

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Feb 15, 2009
Messages
869
Trophies
2
XP
2,696
Country
United States
It's an endemic, not a pandemic.

an endemic would be like ebola contained widely in one country, a pandemic is many countries. COVID has infected nearly every country on the planet.

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

The great work the Trump Administration is doing to end the pandemic is a top priority and worthy of highlighting," she said in an email.

The internal report that the news release was describing did not say that the Covid-19 pandemic is over. It merely touted the administration's various actions to fight it.

"Since the start of the pandemic, the Administration has taken several actions to engage scientists in academia, industry, and government to understand and defeat this disease," the report says.

It later states that the administration's vaccine initiative "Operation Warp Speed, public-private partnerships, and other decisive actions taken by the Trump Administration have provided American scientists, engineers, and healthcare professionals with the knowledge, tools, and technologies needed to understand and defeat this 'invisible enemy.' "


Quoted straight from your source how about read and understand what you are quoting.

except the news release sent out from the white house highlighted "ENDING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC" specifically. you have to go pages into the report to get the clarification. saying one thing, then when asked about the false statement, they say it means another thing. it's bullshit. Trump himself said that covid was "turning the corner" and then shit got way worse. more than 500,000 people tested positive this week.
 
Last edited by omgcat,

omgcat

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Feb 15, 2009
Messages
869
Trophies
2
XP
2,696
Country
United States

local->endemic->epidemic->pandemic ->(treatments/containment) -> endemic

that article is stating that once the virus is contained globally, it probably won't go away completely, it will spike in countries every now and then.

in other fun covid news, apparently covid can induce an autoimmune disorder, which would explain the "long haulers" that are still sick months after contracting the virus.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.21.20216192v1
 
Last edited by omgcat,

LumInvader

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Mar 30, 2013
Messages
702
Trophies
1
XP
1,784
Country
United States
It's an endemic, not a pandemic.
The Spanish Flu pandemic lasted for more than 2 years (February 1918 – April 1920) while spreading across the globe in 4 waves. As of today, the Covid-19 pandemic has been spreading in the US for roughly 9 months and is only now entering it's 2nd wave.

Additionally, the vast majority of Covid-19 stories published in the past week that mention the word endemic warn that it may become endemic, but that it's not yet categorized as such. When or if the medical community starts referring to it as an endemic you will know it.

Covid-19 + endemic stories published in the past week:

https://www.google.com/search?q=endemic+covid-19&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:w&sa

Covid-19 + endemic stories published in the past month:

https://www.google.com/search?q=endemic+covid-19&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:m&sa
 
Last edited by LumInvader,

wartutor

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2012
Messages
759
Trophies
1
Age
45
XP
2,387
Country
United States
except the news release sent out from the white house highlighted "ENDING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC" specifically. you have to go pages into the report to get the clarification. saying one thing, then when asked about the false statement, they say it means another thing. it's bullshit. Trump himself said that covid was "turning the corner" and then shit got way worse. more than 500,000 people tested positive this week.
Dont quote semantics when your "eye catching" Fake new report title mis-quotes what is said in the document to invoke anger and spread misinformation to try and make trumps party look bad in the eye of the uneducated. Just like you tried to do reposting that fake news garbage packaged towards people that wouldnt actually read it, then try arguing your point afterwards. Thats all democrats do is post "FAKE SHIT" and content taken out of txt "injecting bleach anyone" to try and anger the masses against him BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE ANYTHING REAL TO SCREAM.
 

omgcat

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Feb 15, 2009
Messages
869
Trophies
2
XP
2,696
Country
United States
Dont quote semantics when your "eye catching" Fake new report title mis-quotes what is said in the document to invoke anger and spread misinformation to try and make trumps party look bad in the eye of the uneducated. Just like you tried to do reposting that fake news garbage packaged towards people that wouldnt actually read it, then try arguing your point afterwards. Thats all democrats do is post "FAKE SHIT" and content taken out of txt "injecting bleach anyone" to try and anger the masses against him BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE ANYTHING REAL TO SCREAM.

it's not an eye catching title, that shit is literally in the bullet points presented. to get the truth you need to go pages into the report.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...fice-pandemic-ended-covid-cases-b1387794.html

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump...-the-trump-white-houses-we-ended-covid-report

https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...ce-says-trump-ended-covid-pandemic-as-us-hits

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/27/...dministration-says-it-ended-the-pandemic.html

it's the same shit as "we brought our health plan" and it's a 300 page book of bullshit.
 
Last edited by omgcat,

wartutor

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2012
Messages
759
Trophies
1
Age
45
XP
2,387
Country
United States
it's not an eye catching title, that shit is literally in the bullet points presented. to get the truth you need to go pages into the report.
And some fake news channel deemed it ok to "make it look like they said it out of content" in order to full the ignorant even after they read pages into it in order to spread FALSE information "fake news" because they didnt have anything real to report...well that they are allowed to report on. (Bidens laptop is a no go. For some odd reason its not news worthy even though a large % of people are trying to ask google because the news has FAILED to deliver the NEWS.
 

omgcat

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Feb 15, 2009
Messages
869
Trophies
2
XP
2,696
Country
United States
And some fake news channel deemed it ok to "make it look like they said it out of content" in order to full the ignorant even after they read pages into it in order to spread FALSE information "fake news" because they didnt have anything real to report...well that they are allowed to report on. (Bidens laptop is a no go. For some odd reason its not news worthy even though a large % of people are trying to ask google because the news has FAILED to deliver the NEWS.

which sources are fake news and why? what counts as a "non-fake news source"?
 

wartutor

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2012
Messages
759
Trophies
1
Age
45
XP
2,387
Country
United States
which sources are fake news and why? what counts as a "non-fake news source"?
Anyone using a misleading title in order to generate clicks/viewers like the one u just posted equals "fake news." Now i do give your last source credit in saying half way through the artical what was realy said in the document but most would of read the title and instantly be like "oh no they didnt just say that its not over hell theres a million new cases a day bla bla bla. Just like u said when u posted the p.o.s article.
 

omgcat

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Feb 15, 2009
Messages
869
Trophies
2
XP
2,696
Country
United States
Anyone using a misleading title in order to generate clicks/viewers like the one u just posted equals "fake news." Now i do give your last source credit in saying half way through the artical what was realy said in the document but most would of read the title and instantly be like "oh no they didnt just say that its not over hell theres a million new cases a day bla bla bla. Just like u said when u posted the p.o.s article.

except the white house literally sent out a memo saying "the coronavirus pandemic is over", but said the opposite in the attached report.

"The record was broken Tuesday, even as the Trump administration announced what it called its first-term scientific accomplishments, in a press release that included “ENDING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC” written in bold, capital letters."

you can't "fake news" away shit that happens in real life.
 
Last edited by omgcat,
  • Like
Reactions: IncredulousP

wartutor

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2012
Messages
759
Trophies
1
Age
45
XP
2,387
Country
United States
except the white house literally sent out a memo saying "the coronavirus pandemic is over", but said the opposite in the attached report.

"The record was broken Tuesday, even as the Trump administration announced what it called its first-term scientific accomplishments, in a press release that included “ENDING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC” written in bold, capital letters."

you can't "fake news" away shit that happens in real life.
Again only reporting certain things in the captions and taking things out of content to try to mis-inform people. But i see your one of those that gobbles everything news says instead of thinking for yourself and im waisting my time replying to you, so unless your goin to pay me $100 an hour im not goin to hold your hand and talk you through it taking baby steps so you understand basic deception. Keep living in your world i will live in mine.


Edit here the actual file for you to see it doesnt say what u state in the title.
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot_20201028-052214_Write on PDF.jpg
    Screenshot_20201028-052214_Write on PDF.jpg
    1.7 MB · Views: 37
Last edited by wartutor,

gregory-samba

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Sep 11, 2020
Messages
535
Trophies
0
XP
380
Country
United States
The virus being deadly is fake news. It's time for everyone to get out and get back to work. Who cares what it's classified as by a bunch of morons as the facts are if you get the damned thing you're probably not even going to know about it without a test let alone get sick or even get remotely close to dying.
 

crimpshrine

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Jun 18, 2014
Messages
594
Trophies
0
XP
1,169
Country
United States
The Heroes act was passed in the house back in may with almost full support (
207 Yea 14 Nay 12 Absent 90+% support from present members and 1 republican)
) from the Dems, it has been waiting for a vote in the senate for months. if the bill never had a chance, why won't mitch bring it up for a vote? which dems have had enough of pelosi?

some things the bill would do:

  • provides FY2020 emergency supplemental appropriations to federal agencies;
  • provides payments and other assistance to state, local, tribal, and territorial governments;
  • provides additional direct payments of up to $1,200 per individual;
  • expands paid sick days, family and medical leave, unemployment compensation, nutrition and food assistance programs, housing assistance, and payments to farmers;
  • modifies and expands the Paycheck Protection Program, which provides loans and grants to small businesses and nonprofit organizations;
  • establishes a fund to award grants for employers to provide pandemic premium pay for essential workers;
  • expands several tax credits and deductions;
  • provides funding and establishes requirements for COVID-19 testing and contact tracing;
  • eliminates cost-sharing for COVID-19 treatments;
  • extends and expands the moratorium on certain evictions and foreclosures; and
  • requires employers to develop and implement infectious disease exposure control plans.

but yeah, tell me how much republicans actually care about normal people when they won't publically vote on this bill.

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------



i'm still curious which bill you were referring to that was 700Bn that actually would help people?

List the ENTIRE contents of the bill. And the total cost.
 

gregory-samba

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Sep 11, 2020
Messages
535
Trophies
0
XP
380
Country
United States
List the ENTIRE contents of the bill. And the total cost.

Before Trump came along the normal practice for Congress was to pack all sorts of unrelated things into their spending bills. The last proposed bill for the Chinese Wuhan Corona Virus contained all sorts of provisions for things unrelated to the virus and like most American's Trump didn't like that.

Trump is an outsider that doesn't like the bullshit like most of the general population. He's forcing Congress the change their ways and they don't like that as they can't get all sorts of pork added to their bills anymore.

I support him because no one needs trillions of debt added onto the US economy for things completely unrelated to the virus in a bill that's supposed to be about relief due to the overreaction to a virus that's not even that serious.
 

crimpshrine

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Jun 18, 2014
Messages
594
Trophies
0
XP
1,169
Country
United States
Before Trump came along the normal practice for Congress was to pack all sorts of unrelated things into their spending bills. The last proposed bill for the Chinese Wuhan Corona Virus contained all sorts of provisions for things unrelated to the virus and like most American's Trump didn't like that.

Trump is an outsider that doesn't like the bullshit like most of the general population. He's forcing Congress the change their ways and they don't like that as they can't get all sorts of pork added to their bills anymore.

I support him because no one needs trillions of debt added onto the US economy for things completely unrelated to the virus in a bill that's supposed to be about relief due to the overreaction to a virus that's not even that serious.

I agree GS.

That's why I asked them to include the entire bill. The ones who are democrat apologists here just focus on only the things they believe support whatever their current crazy argument is.

The republicans wanted to give the people money, shore up the schools and small business months ago. The dems (Pelosi mostly) Would not have accepted anything unless it included all their extra BS.

If the dems really cared about getting aid to the people they had MANY chances, they blew them all. They could have attempted to take up their other BS at another time.
 
  • Like
Reactions: gregory-samba

gregory-samba

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Sep 11, 2020
Messages
535
Trophies
0
XP
380
Country
United States
I agree GS.

That's why I asked them to include the entire bill. The ones who are democrat apologists here just focus on only the things they believe support whatever their current crazy argument is.

The republicans wanted to give the people money, shore up the schools and small business months ago. The dems (Pelosi mostly) Would not have accepted anything unless it included all their extra BS.

If the dems really cared about getting aid to the people they had MANY chances, they blew them all. They could have attempted to take up their other BS at another time.

Well, the be fair it does take two the tango. Both Pelosi and Trump share the blame of not being able to work together, but Pelosi is solely to blame for trying to add unrelated bullshit to the spending bill. Trump is doing the right thing, but they both share some level of blame.
 
  • Like
Reactions: wartutor

GCS

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Sep 10, 2020
Messages
525
Trophies
0
XP
967
Country
Turkey
The virus being deadly is fake news. It's time for everyone to get out and get back to work. Who cares what it's classified as by a bunch of morons as the facts are if you get the damned thing you're probably not even going to know about it without a test let alone get sick or even get remotely close to dying.
Yeah, then let's go out everybody, who cares about the virus right? Corona only has a 2% chance to kill after all... To prove that it's stupid to stay at home, let's calculate what would be the death people count (approx.) in the US if we did go out:

- Let's say 60% of the US population got the virus and then a cure has found.
- US has a population of 328.2 million (2019, according to Google)
- Approx. 2% chance to die because of the virus.
In the end, ONLY 4 Million People die! Why we didn't think about this in the first place? It's GENIUS.
 
Last edited by GCS,
  • Like
Reactions: IncredulousP

Site & Scene News

Popular threads in this forum

General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
    Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo: @SylverReZ, Indeed lol