[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

[omgcat]

despite what people here feel, Biden got a huge boost from this shitshow. he got a 2 point bump in PA, and a 3 point bump in Florida. Voters are looking at policies and what people have been calling for. for example, trump and republicans complaining about masks, and then subsequently showing up as a super spreader event is making people doubt the anti-mask policies. when one side says "wear a mask, it will protect you and others", and they are

the ones to not be in the group to test positive, people are going to look at the others like they are retarded.

 

[Doran754]

The Spanish Flu would like a word with you.

Ah yes, the Spanish flu, that virus that originated in Spain. Thanks for backing up exactly why It's called the China virus.

 

[Lacius]

Ah yes, the Spanish flu, that virus that originated in Spain. Thanks for backing up exactly why It's called the China virus.

I suggest you educate yourself on the Spanish Flu.

 

[Doran754]

I suggest you educate yourself on the Spanish Flu.

Alright, the exact source is unknown, but it's believed to have originated in the Iberian Peninsula. Either way, can you say the same for covid? It clearly originated in China.

 

[Lacius]

Alright, the exact source is unknown, but it's believed to have originated in the Iberian Peninsula. Either way, can you say the same for covid? It clearly originated in China.

Do you know why we call it the Spanish Flu?

 

[r0achtheunsavory]

despite what people here feel, Biden got a huge boost from this shitshow. he got a 9 point bump in PA

Fake. Just like when they said Hillary Clinton had a 99% chance of winning 2016. They put out fake numbers then try to illegally rig the real world votes to that number afterwards. They couldn't steal the 2016 election because the gap was too large.

This election the same scum (globalist bankers, the MIC, the CIA, Mossad-Epstein blackmail rings) backing the left claim they'll contest the election and won't accept the results no matter what even if Trump wins, so civil war here we come.

 

[Doran754]

Do you know why we call it the China Virus? We can go round in circles. You've ignored every other point i made.

 

[Lacius]

Fake. Just like when they said Hillary Clinton had a 99% chance of winning 2016. They put out fake numbers then try to illegally rig the real world votes to that number afterwards. They couldn't steal the 2016 election because the gap was too large.

This election the same scum (globalist bankers, the MIC, the CIA, Mossad-Epstein blackmail rings) backing the left claim they'll contest the election and won't accept the results no matter what even if Trump wins, so civil war here we come.

Anyone who said Clinton had a 99% chance of winning was a fool. It was more like 70%.

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Do you know why we call it the China Virus? We can go round in circles. You've ignored every other point i made.

We call it the Spanish Flu because, at the time, Spain was thought to have had the most cases and deaths, despite the virus not originating there. There's some more cool history as to why this was and why Spain probably didn't have the most deaths, but you're apparently uninterested.

You argued that we don't name diseases after where the most deaths occur, but that's objectively untrue. When I tried to point out your mistake, you ignored my points. Please do not hypocritically say I am the one ignoring points. If you concede that diseases can and do get named for where they hit worst, we can continue this conversation, and you can, respectfully, look a lot less like a hypocritical fool.

 

[omgcat]

Anyone who said Clinton had a 99% chance of winning was a fool. It was more like 70%.

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We call it the Spanish Flu because, at the time, Spain was thought to have had the most cases and deaths, despite the virus not originating there. There some more cool history as to why this was and why Spain probably didn't have the most deaths, but you're apparently uninterested.

You argued that we don't name diseases after where the most deaths occur, but that's objectively untrue. When I tried to point out your mistake, you ignored my points. Please do not hypocritically say I am the one ignoring points. If you concede that diseases can and do get named for where they hit worst, we can continue this conversation, and you can, respectfully, look a lot less like a hypocritical fool.

just more sealioning, don't worry about it.

Also since trump is older than 65, his chances of dying to Covid-19 is about 1 in 15, with his chances of needing long term care at around 60%. hell look at Boris Johnson, sure he didn't die, but he is nowhere near back to normal, and it has been more than 6 months. Trump is 18 years older than Boris, same or worse weight category, same sex, ect. the need for supplemental oxygen yesterday is kind of a bad sign. the longer trump stays sick, the lower his chances of getting re-elected are, as people don't want to vote for a sick president.

for people throwing around IFR numbers, remember those are calculated for standard age (18-29), people who are 65yo+ have a 220x chance of dying compared to 18-29. so that .006 is now 1.2%, if someone has more than 2 co-morbidity (BMI greater than 30, BMI greater than 40, asthma, hypertension; [BMI levels are subsequent morbidities, you count both if you fill both]) you multiply that number further by 4.5x so 1.2 now becomes 5.4. and finally if you are male, you are twice as likely to die from covid as females, so the 5.4 is doubles to 10.8%.

a 10.8% chance of flat out dying is not good for trump, and these risk factors drastically increase his risk of needing long term care such as extended ventilation, or constant supplemental oxygen even after the virus has been cleared.

 

[gregory-samba]

The COVID19 strains of virii infecting the global population right now originated in China, specifically in Wuhan, which is the capitol of the Hubei Province. Unless you can go back in time and stop it from spreading I'm going to call it the Chinese Wuhan Conoravirus, as that is an accurate name for it. It originated in Wuhan, China and is a Coronavirus. I'm not sure why calling it by the name everyone used for months is somehow racist. I don't know the race of everyone that lives in Wuhan nor do I care, because I'm not referring to a certain race, but a location on our planet.

 

[Lacius]

The COVID19 strains of virii infecting the global population right now originated in China, specifically in Wuhan, which is the capitol of the Hubei Province. Unless you can go back in time and stop it from spreading I'm going to call it the Chinese Wuhan Conoravirus, as that is an accurate name for it. It originated in Wuhan, China and is a Coronavirus. I'm not sure why calling it by the name everyone used for months is somehow racist. I don't know the race of everyone that lives in Wuhan nor do I care, because I'm not referring to a certain race, but a location on our planet.

You're free to call it that, and it's correct it very likely originated there, but it's a bit hypocritical to call it the China Virus when the USA mismanaged it far worse than China ever did. See the numbers in my previous post. It's an American Virus. The amount of deaths and cases was our creation.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

The COVID19 strains of virii infecting the global population right now originated in China, specifically in Wuhan, which is the capitol of the Hubei Province. Unless you can go back in time and stop it from spreading I'm going to call it the Chinese Wuhan Conoravirus, as that is an accurate name for it. It originated in Wuhan, China and is a Coronavirus. I'm not sure why calling it by the name everyone used for months is somehow racist. I don't know the race of everyone that lives in Wuhan nor do I care, because I'm not referring to a certain race, but a location on our planet.

BUT DAS ZEENAFFFOHPEX!!

 

[D34DL1N3R]

Fake. Just like when they said Hillary Clinton had a 99% chance of winning 2016. They put out fake numbers then try to illegally rig the real world votes to that number afterwards. They couldn't steal the 2016 election because the gap was too large.

Seems like you need an education regarding popular vote vs electoral. 3 million more people voted for Hillary. Trump lost the vote of the American people, bigly.

 

[gregory-samba]

just more sealioning, don't worry about it.

Also since trump is older than 65, his chances of dying to Covid-19 is about 1 in 15, with his chances of needing long term care at around 60%. hell look at Boris Johnson, sure he didn't die, but he is nowhere near back to normal, and it has been more than 6 months. Trump is 18 years older than Boris, same or worse weight category, same sex, ect. the need for supplemental oxygen yesterday is kind of a bad sign. the longer trump stays sick, the lower his chances of getting re-elected are, as people don't want to vote for a sick president.

If Trump becomes incapacitated Vice President Mike Pence will become the acting President of the USA. I also believe that with no runner up Pence would probably be on the ballot instead of Trump if Trump happens to become to ill to function correctly or dies. Pence seems like a nice guy who values his faith and loves his family. He's also a very hard worker. I'll definitely vote for him if he turns up to be the 2020 candidate for President. Let's just hope Trump doesn't become too ill, but it's a real possibility.

despite what people here feel, Biden got a huge boost from this shitshow. he got a 2 point bump in PA, and a 3 point bump in Florida. Voters are looking at policies and what people have been calling for. for example, trump and republicans complaining about masks, and then subsequently showing up as a super spreader event is making people doubt the anti-mask policies. when one side says "wear a mask, it will protect you and others", and they are the ones to not be in the group to test positive, people are going to look at the others like they are retarded.

Polling only gives a general look at a specific group of people. Polling the entire USA is too complicated a matter and most voters don't even participate in political debate or ever get close to voting in polls about politics. The poll could be accurate, but it's most likely not. It's just too bad most people voting for Joe Biden have been under the hypnotic lies of the main stream media for too long. I wish people could just be honest, it would really cut down on the bullshit.

 

[r0achtheunsavory]

Seems like you need an education regarding popular vote vs electoral. 3 million more people voted for Hillary. Trump lost the vote of the American people, bigly.

It's not even true. They tried to rig it for Hillary but couldn't get enough battleground states rigged so they still lost even with massive rigging due to electoral college.

 

[gregory-samba]

Seems like you need an education regarding popular vote vs electoral. 3 million more people voted for Hillary. Trump lost the vote of the American people, bigly.

3 million people is piss compared to the 330,000,000 people in the USA. 3 million is not a large margin out of 330,000,000 by any means.

 

[Lacius]

It's not even true. They tried to rig it for Hillary but couldn't get enough battleground states rigged so they still lost even with massive rigging due to electoral college.

There is zero evidence of this.

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3 million people is piss compared to the 330,000,000 people in the USA. 3 million is not a large margin out of 330,000,000 by any means.

A candidate who wins the election by nearly 3 million votes should win the election. Anything else is a flawed system. The Electoral College is a joke. The Republicans only disagree because it benefits them.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

The Electoral College is a joke. The Republicans only disagree because it benefits them.

We disagree because without the Electoral College, every election would be determined by only three states.

 

[Lacius]

We disagree because without the Electoral College, every election would be determined by only three states.

It's actually because of the Electoral College that the decision comes down to a few swing states. Without it, every vote would count. Please get your facts straight.

 

[r0achtheunsavory]

A candidate who wins the election by nearly 3 million votes should win the election. Anything else is a flawed system. The Electoral College is a joke. The Republicans only disagree because it benefits them.

Get your Brian Stelter government disinfo and propaganda off the forum. All getting rid of the electoral college does is make it a million times easier to commit voter fraud. With the electoral college, to rig the vote you have to infilitrate numerous states and rig them all. Without it, you just rig one big state and claim 100% of people living in NY voted Hillary.