[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

[Foxi4]

I've actually seen undoctored video of Biden fondling young girls or generally trying to touch people in spots they don't like, which most are met by the kids or female adults shoving his hands away from their private spots. I'm not sure what it is you deleted that @player594 posted, but if it was about Biden touching people in no-no spots then it wasn't fake. You can easily locate the videos online. Just don't try to search or talk about them on Liberal hot spots as you won't find them and will get banned for bringing them up. The left has censored them as they shine a bad light on Biden, but I think people should be aware that the possible next President of the USA likes to fondle kids.

I have also seen such photos and videos, but there is no evidence that Joe Biden is a p-phile, he simply puts himself in weird situations that seem thoroughly creepy. He's very keen on touching and putting his face way too close, but I have no way of knowing if that is done maliciously or if he's just weird like that. I don't like Biden, but I won't allow smears against him or his supporters. I try to be impartial, this has been discussed before. I've consulted the higher ups for clarification in regards to such content, but I have a feeling that my hunch is correct.

 

[gregory-samba]

I would consider a financial drain, health drain, mental drain and social drain to be a compelling enough reason.

Irresponsibility doesn't justify murder, especially when you're murdering a helpless unborn child. I refuse to condone such savagery.

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I have also seen such photos and videos, but there is no evidence that Joe Biden is a p-phile, he simply puts himself in weird situations that seem thoroughly creepy. He's very keen on touching and putting his face way too close, but I have no way of knowing if that is done maliciously or if he's just weird like that. I don't like Biden, but I won't allow smears against him or his supporters. I try to be impartial, this has been discussed before. I've consulted the higher ups for clarification in regards to such content, but I have a feeling that my hunch is correct.

Fair enough. I've had old relatives that liked you kiss you on the mouth or tickle the shit out of you. It doesn't make them a p*do, just touchy grabby in a weird way. I've not seen any evidence that Biden is a p*do. That must be the "p" word you're referring to. I thought it was p***y.

 

[FAST6191]

Irresponsibility doesn't justify murder, especially when you're murdering a helpless unborn child. I refuse to condone such savagery.

Didn't we already cover that one not a few posts before?
But we can go again. What makes firing up the womb vacuum (or maybe popping a pill -- there are some good ones these days) murder where I can rub one out ten times a day (or have sex and go into a condom) and as long as do it in the privacy of my own shed then nobody realistically gets to say anything?

 

[Lacius]

Irresponsibility doesn't justify murder, especially when you're murdering a helpless unborn child. I refuse to condone such savagery.

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Fair enough. I've had old relatives that liked you kiss you on the mouth or tickle the shit out of you. It doesn't make them a pedo, just touchy grabby in a weird way. I've not seen any evidence that Biden is a pedo. That must be the "p" word you're referring to. I thought it was p***y.

Fetuses aren't children.

 

[Foxi4]

Didn't we already cover that one not a few posts before?
But we can go again. What makes firing up the womb vacuum (or maybe popping a pill -- there are some good ones these days) murder where I can rub one out ten times a day (or have sex and go into a condom) and as long as do it in the privacy of my own shed then nobody realistically gets to say anything?

Your sperm is not a distinct and unique strain of DNA, it's half of it. It also doesn't have a brain capable of thought, which is measurable with modern medical and scientific techniques. We have the technology to make that assessment, it's just an unpleasant subject that has implications on women's rights, so it's not often discussed. To put it crudely, you are your brain. You can chop off limbs and remove organs all day, and as long as you still supply nutrients and oxygen to your brain, you exist. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that a developed fetal brain also has cognitive ability - in fact, it's been vigorously tested.

 

[gregory-samba]

Fetuses aren't children.

You don't believe they are, but that's not what a large part of the rest of the population thinks, including myself. There's also no debate to be had as you're not going to convince me otherwise, which is why I've avoided most of the discussion about justifications and particulars. I view anyone that supports, condones, enables or looks the other way when innocent babies are ripped from their mother's womb to be on par with the worse of the worse that exists in this world. Just saying ...

 

[Lacius]

You don't believe they are, but that's not what a large part of the rest of the population thinks, including myself. There's also no debate to be had as you're not going to convince me otherwise, which is why I've avoided most of the discussion about justifications and particulars. I view anyone that supports, condones, enables or looks the other way when innocent babies are ripped from their mother's womb to be on par with the worse of the worse that exists in this world. Just saying ...

You can argue they have a soul, etc. (they don't), but they objectively aren't children, by definition.

 

[FAST6191]

It is distinct and unique (certainly can be traced according), but I take your meaning.
Equally brain capable of thought seems to be heading towards a similar line to what some were arguing above. I would however place reasonable money on the broken record above having serious issues with possibly even the morning after setup and almost certainly 1 millisecond after implantation.

You don't believe they are, but that's not what a large part of the rest of the population thinks, including myself.

I wonder how large "large" actually is. Though I am not sure how useful numbers are in this case (plenty of instances of the population at large maybe calling for something that is against baseline acceptable standards for law making).

 

[Foxi4]

I never thought I would ever long to talk about Biden again. I don't think continuing the abortion discussion has any point, nobody is going to budge - just my 2 cents. Let's put Greg at pro-life, me in the middle with very specific provisos and Lacius at pro-choice and we have a full spectrum of opinions covered.

 

[FAST6191]

Has anything actually interesting happened in the last few days vis a vis new policy announcements, speeches, visits, debates, unearthed info (or opportunistically released info if we are not being naive), a poll/expected results metric we might actually consider as being in some way useful, internal party politics (neither are exactly all on the same page, and courting others risks annoying others/existing targets still) or situations that might warrant them giving a reaction to (or notable in the absence thereof)?

For something so close there seems to be a whole lot of nothing happening. If your candidate is a dementia addled old man you probably want to keep things purely scripted so I understand that there, however they still have some other talking heads with name recognition they can use to bang a drum (assuming that is not cultural appropriation nowadays).

Or might it be that we are seeing something like an election with a reasonable timeframe rather than a whole year (or in some regards right after the previous one, or maybe just right after the midterms)?

 

[Foxi4]

Has anything actually interesting happened in the last few days vis a vis new policy announcements, speeches, visits, debates, unearthed info (or opportunistically released info if we are not being naive), a poll/expected results metric we might actually consider as being in some way useful, internal party politics (neither are exactly all on the same page, and courting others risks annoying others/existing targets still) or situations that might warrant them giving a reaction to (or notable in the absence thereof)?

For something so close there seems to be a whole lot of nothing happening. If your candidate is a dementia addled old man you probably want to keep things purely scripted so I understand that there.

Or might it be that we are seeing something like an election with a reasonable timeframe rather than a whole year (or in some regards right after the previous one, or maybe just right after the midterms)?

Speaking of keeping things scripted...

https://nypost.com/2020/09/21/biden-mistakenly-says-millions-have-died-from-covid-19-in-us/

I hope 200 million people don't die each time Joe speaks to a crowd.

 

[Deleted User]

Well, that's interesting that I was quoted saying something I didn't. lol Anyway, just going to point out that the Nordic Countries seem have made a good balance with their social programs.

I think his brain must of wanted to include you too with what I said.
For what reason?
idk.

 

[choupette]

Quick question, was Arnie full of dignity when he was screwing his maid, or Brigett Nielsen, or the multitude of other mistresses he had over the years and won't name? I'm asking since you've mentioned decency. Not saying that Trump is a paragon of virtue, but he also doesn't shine a virtue signal out of his window - we know he grabs women by the... front. Nothing against Arnie, he's a nice and affable guy, but out of all the Republicans you picked a weird one to contrast against Trump.

"Not saying that Trump is a paragon of virtue" => That's The Euphemism of all euphemisms. Arnold sure did all that, Trump did it and more. Man, he even address strippers on twitter. The POTUS. Could you have imagined that, I don't know, 5 years ago ?

Did he build his wall ? Are poor people living better ? Do you feel like he is a smart guy when you listen to him ?

All these questions are rethorical, but, really, I'd like to step back and understand, What really makes you want to vote for him ?

 

[Foxi4]

"Not saying that Trump is a paragon of virtue" => That's The Euphemism of all euphemisms. Arnold sure did all that, Trump did it and more. Man, he even address strippers on twitter. The POTUS. Could you have imagined that, I don't know, 5 years ago ?

5? 30 years ago we had a President who screwed his female staff in the oval office and put his cigar inside their lady parts, let's not pretend that the Presidency carries any form of moral superiority with it, or ever has. Trust me, I can imagine that, and a variety of far worse things happening in the world of politics. As for why I'd vote Trump, he's most certainly delivered on what I expected from him, to a degree that I find satisfactory, especially considering the fact that a good portion of his plans are sadly blockaded in the House or by liberal judges until they become less effective than they would've been originally. For the record, I actually kinda liked Bill Clinton as a president - he was fiscally responsible and was the only president in recent history who *didn't* baloon the deficit up, but that's besides the point.

Looks like someone finally reminded Romney that kicking the ball into your own goal isn't a good idea if you want to win, he's finally doing the right thing.

Took him long enough to remember how he was smeared during his campaign.

 

[Hanafuda]

I actually kinda liked Bill Clinton as a president - he was fiscally responsible and was the only president in recent history who *didn't* baloon the deficit up, but that's besides the point.

That was more Gingrich's doing than something Clinton wanted. What he did understand though is when you can't beat em, join em.

 

[gregory-samba]

All these questions are rethorical, but, really, I'd like to step back and understand, What really makes you want to vote for him ?

Trump has taken up values and made decisions on issues that are important to me. A lot of what he's done, including the WIP wall that is going up actually help our country while the left's policies and views don't help at all. Feel free to move to a Liberal controlled city to see how their methods worked out for them. I also voted for Trump because Hilliary is a nasty bitch that supports socialism. Socialism has no place in modern society. I also voted for him because he was willing to make hard choices that don't benefit him, but simply benefit society. Trump is willing to take the hate from the Democrats and put America first. He's also not a career politician and gives his entire Presidential salary away. I'm also going to vote again for him again due to the fact the Democratic party still stands for bad things. If they ever get back to any semblance of normality and goodness then I might vote for them, but their views on things are so twisted and fake that I can't and won't vote for them.

 

[Foxi4]

On the subject of dying wishes, I wonder if the Democrats are going to follow their own advice and respect RBG's opinion on court packing.

"Nine seems to be a good number. It's been that way for a long time," she said, adding, "I think it was a bad idea when President Franklin Roosevelt tried to pack the court." - Ruth Bader Ginsburg

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/24/744633713/justice-ginsburg-i-am-very-much-alive

Pretty relevant since the Democrat camp seems really interested in past statements, plus they worship the woman.

 

[Doran754]

It was uneccessary to say fetuses aren't children but somehow it's always one side of the argument getting censored. Imagine my shock.

 

[KingVamp]

because Hilliary is a nasty bitch that supports socialism.

No, please go on. How does Hillary supports socialism?

 

[gregory-samba]

No, please go on. How does Hillary supports socialism?

How about we start with the fact she studied under a Marxist Community Organizer in Chicago called Saul Alinsky (nice write up/primer here). She even did her college pro-communism thesis on him, in fact, 97 pages long. And of course, she had secret service agents go put it under lock and key so it wouldn't hurt her or her husband back when he was running for President. Hillary Clinton also endorses Joe Biden for President and all of the 2020 Presidential Candidates held debates where passing socialistic policies were their main promises to their potential voter base. Sarcasm, socialism, and stupidity are her native languages.