Hacking Question Is SXOS really illegal?

[Lumince]

It's all built to pirate something. All of it. "Mainline pokemon game announced, looks ike I am gonna have to write a CFW" sound familiar? Modding game saves is illegal too in some jurisdictions. You have no real high horse. I forgot. you are all probably teenagers. No use arguing. TTYL PIrate

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You're 1 in a million or a liar! And you know you're not the norm.

Im not talking about illegal things. Didnt say that in my post at all. A lot of people either dont care whats illegal here or are just being hypocrites about the "issues".

I know quite a few people that do not pirate and do not run CFW for free games. I for one pirate games. I personally dont care what others do or use. Its usually the same end result regardless. Also, no need to use the "he he stupid kids" insult when there isnt a need for it. I couldn't care less what you use or what anyone else uses. Just play your damn pirated games

 

[Deleted member 512337]

No matter what nintendo wants you to believe, their TOS isn't law in the US. The most illegal thing you can do is piracy, but it's not like people would be knocking at your door for doing it.

Somehow this thread has turned into children arguing which one of their toys are better.

 

[mikefor20]

Im not talking about illegal things. Didnt say that in my post at all. A lot of people either dont care whats illegal here or are just being hypocrites about the "issues".

I know quite a few people that do not pirate and do not run CFW for free games. I for one pirate games. I personally dont care what others do or use. Its usually the same end result regardless. Also, no need to use the "he he stupid kids" insult when there isnt a need for it. I couldn't care less what you use or what anyone else uses. Just play your damn pirated games

That's fine. At least you're not bullshit. And these people are mostly kids. Fragile ones. And it's important to keep it in perspective. In life, you must consider the source

 

[ZachyCatGames]

The most illegal thing you can do is piracy

Simple game piracy is far from the worst thing that one can do.

 

[mikefor20]

No matter what nintendo wants you to believe, their TOS isn't law in the US. The most illegal thing you can do is piracy, but it's not like people would be knocking at your door for doing it.

Somehow this thread has turned into children arguing which one of their toys are better.

EULA is not law. However, in the US you lose the rights to the software when you violate it. Depending on the judge, turning on the Switch and hence running horizon at that point could be considered piracy.

Any thread involving SXOS always turns in to people saying that SX is bad for some bs reason. HILARIOUS

 

[Kioku]

Its always been a tradition to hate the paid CFW guys. Its in the scenes blood. Theres no getting around it lol Why would anyone want to be in a place that bans them for their choices anyways? Most servers that are anti SXOS usually have it in their rules, or they atleast have something about no piracy talk. SXOS is built for piracy. You cant deny that. You all know what you are buying.

To anyone saying that the community is still toxic for hating and shunning sxos users... thats the nintendo scene for you. There is always somethat is hated... The communitys will always have their toxic sides. If you hate it, you might wanna try just ignoring it or blocking everyone.

Believe it or not, the Gateway hate wasnt remotely close. Yeah, you still had the people who'd hang you if they could... But it was so much easier to get help and assistance. Now? Jesus...

 

[mikefor20]

Believe it or not, the Gateway hate wasnt remotely close. Yeah, you still had the people who'd hang you if they could... But it was so much easier to get help and assistance. Now? Jesus...

You can always ask me.And I won't lie. Even if I don't like the answer.

 

[pofehof]

That gun is harmless and not intended to kill. Another company made the bullets and I can't help if they happen to be compatible with my 100% safe gun.. I understand the BS legal precedence. But you know that it's all al lie. Please..

Not even close to the same thing. Guns were created to harm others no matter what (whether it's for defense or criminal activities). Can't say the same (in terms of piracy) for CFW that doesn't allow piracy out of the box.

 

[0x3000027E]

I don't.

I do.

Probably not banned either.
Plenty of people online running atmosphere (when done properly), check the stats.

 

[ChaosEternal]

So nice to be on a pedestal where you can pick and choose what kind of theft is theft. Judge Judy? No offense but you opinion doesn't amount to anything in court. Petty theft if theft. Stealing a TV is theft. Stealing code is theft. It's all the same.

Ok? I did preface it by stating that it was my personal opinion. I'd be pissed if someone stole my TV. I'd be absolutely livid if someone started selling my creative work while claiming that they made it. The TV is identical, one of many, whereas the code is one of a kind. It's a difference of magnitude. Also, I'm pretty sure that the theft of intellectual property generally falls under a different set of laws than petty theft, but I'm no lawyer. Hence, although it is a type of theft, it isn't even close to being treated identically by the legal system.

 

[mikefor20]

Its always been a tradition to hate the paid CFW guys. Its in the scenes blood. Theres no getting around it lol Why would anyone want to be in a place that bans them for their choices anyways? Most servers that are anti SXOS usually have it in their rules, or they atleast have something about no piracy talk. SXOS is built for piracy. You cant deny that. You all know what you are buying.

To anyone saying that the community is still toxic for hating and shunning sxos users... thats the nintendo scene for you. There is always somethat is hated... The communitys will always have their toxic sides. If you hate it, you might wanna try just ignoring it or blocking everyone.

The scene is fucked because of the people in it. Childish and superior. That's how the world is going. Babies. Still toxic, absolutely. So call them out. Refuse it. You'll get mobbed and a warning but to me it's worth it to help a few people make their own decisions instead of telling someone what to do. I believe in free flow of information. The scene dies without it. And ignoring tons of people is pathetic. Total Trump move.

Somehow this thread has turned into children arguing which one of their toys are better.

Every SXOS related thread goes this way. Hey, can you help me fix my SXOS issue? The only issue is SXOS you must assimilate or we will ban you and tell your mommy! That's the acceptable social response somehow in a board filled with people who claim to be progressive and tolerant. They might as well be the Third Reight! Not very tolerant imho. Jealous or bitter yes.

 

[pofehof]

Every SXOS related thread goes this way.

Except you and the other user are the ones who are trying to suggest that everyone uses Atmosphere for piracy.

 

[Kioku]

Except you and the other user are the ones who are trying to suggest that everyone uses Atmosphere for piracy.

Actually, it's just the one guy. Nowhere did I mention, let alone hint at every Atmosphere user using it for piracy.

 

[mikefor20]

Ok? I did preface it by stating that it was my personal opinion. I'd be pissed if someone stole my TV. I'd be absolutely livid if someone started selling my creative work while claiming that they made it. The TV is identical, one of many, whereas the code is one of a kind. It's a difference of magnitude. Also, I'm pretty sure that the theft of intellectual property generally falls under a different set of laws than petty theft, but I'm no lawyer. Hence, although it is a type of theft, it isn't even close to being treated identically by the legal system.

Theft of intellectual properties is valued at the worth of an established franchise or the money invested. So if you steal Mario you are fucked. I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about legality. And the fact that the court of law doesn't care what you think. The law on theft is fairly simple.. Severity is about how much it costs someone. And besides that I am talking about your opinion of what laws are valid is meaningless. You can't pick what to enforce. Illegal is illegal. People don't comprehend that without difficulty. It's above a high school comprehension level.

 

[pofehof]

Actually, it's just the one guy.

The other user is your alt? That makes sense.

Spoiler

/s

 

[ChaosEternal]

Theft of intellectual properties is valued at the worth of an established franchise or the money invested. So if you steal Mario you are fucked. I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about legality. And the fact that the court of law doesn't care what you think. The law on theft is fairly simple.. Severity is about how much it costs someone. And besides that I am talking about your opinion of what laws are valid is meaningless. You can't pick what to enforce. Illegal is illegal.

Ah, so every law on the book is stringently enforced then? Police target every single person they see breaking any law? Prosecutors chase every single prosecution they can legally manage? The answer to all three of those questions is obviously no. Laws go unenforced all the time. You're right, petty theft is illegal. That doesn't mean that I have to view it as morally equivalent to intellectual property theft. The law doesn't define morality. If just being illegal were enough, then I would have to condemn murderers and jaywalkers equally. 200 years ago in the US I would have had to condemn people who taught slaves to read or helped them escape enslavement. I can have my own sense of morality separate from the legal structure of the place I reside in. You can argue that my moral system is nonsensical, but arguing that I'm not allowed to have it because a legal system exists is absurd.

 

[mikefor20]

Not even close to the same thing. Guns were created to harm others no matter what (whether it's for defense or criminal activities). Can't say the same (in terms of piracy) for CFW that doesn't allow piracy out of the box.

I have an antique umbrella gun. Still a gun even though it's an umbrella. Guns can feed someone and protect someone. Same argument. It;s still a CFW and it still circumvents security and is still capable of a whole lot more. Who cares if it's loaded . its a gun.

Except you and the other user are the ones who are trying to suggest that everyone uses Atmosphere for piracy.

They do. I say everyone uses Hustler magazine to jackoff. Just because you are the only impotent ad executive that reads it to see how your ads came out doesn't mean that my statement won't hold up as true enough. The remainder of people are mostly liars. Everyone is a pirate on one level or another here. If not you are either an anomaly or a liar. That;'s it He we go with the same bullshit lie as every other SXOS thread. Atmosphere isn't for piracy. That's just PR to avoid a law suit. Get real and don't lie to me son.

 

[pofehof]

It;s still a CFW and it still circumvents security and is still capable of a whole lot more. Who cares if it's loaded . its a gun.

Nope. You keep on failing on trying to make it seem like that, because even an "umbrella gun" would be designed to harm people by default (specifically the gun part). You cannot deny that fact that atmosphere does not allow you to pirate without you downloading additional files from other sources.

He we go with the same bullshit lie as every other SXOS thread. Atmosphere isn't for piracy.

Says the same person who is willing to spread lies.

 

[mikefor20]

Ah, so every law on the book is stringently enforced then? Police target every single person they see breaking any law? Prosecutors chase every single prosecution they can legally manage? The answer to all three of those questions is obviously no. Laws go unenforced all the time. You're right, petty theft is illegal. That doesn't mean that I have to view it as morally equivalent to intellectual property theft. The law doesn't define morality. If just being illegal were enough, then I would have to condemn murderers and jaywalkers equally. 200 years ago in the US I would have had to condemn people who taught slaves to read or helped them escape enslavement. I can have my own sense of morality separate from the legal structure of the place I reside in. You can argue that my moral system is nonsensical, but arguing that I'm not allowed to have it because a legal system exists is absurd.

What a joke.Here's how it went. How do I fix SX. Get atmo. But I want SX. It won't work. Then. ME YES IT DOES! Why would you want to PAY? I don't care about the money. But SXOS is illegal. So is Atmosphere. I don't count that law. And don't call me a child. Then after that is all semantics and crap.. My bad. I don't have kids for a reason. Can't stand this . No it's not, yes it is, no it's not. Fact is , it's none of your business what I run and the OPs question was answered with lies and propaganda. Lame. . I am outta here. OP or ANYONE who wants real information. Message me.

 

[pofehof]

But SXOS is illegal. So is Atmosphere.

Stop spreading lies, then maybe every SX OS thread wouldn't be like this.