Hacking Question Is SXOS really illegal?

[DSi_Lite]

* SX OS is illegal to purchase and own. It bundles various keys and copyrighted data that cannot be legally shared. * It has known compatibility issues with homebrew, due to its non-standard and proprietary nature. * It does not support loading custom system modules. * Several versions of the CFW have caused users to be banned without their knowledge.
stole this from the nintendo homebrew discord, use atmosphere, its better

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but i mean, its your choice, feel free to use whatever you want
freedom of choice

 

[TunaKetchup]

SXOS can load very certain and very specific kips

 

[mikefor20]

It's funny how this all inclusive place claims not to care who you are, who you screw, which chuck e cheese character turns you on. But you use SXOS or Gateway and you are burnt at the stake. The argument is so stupid. It's bad is all you got. I love the reswitched guys but Atmosphere is designed to circumvent the protections on the switch. Therefore in some countries it's illegal. The only reason they don't include patches is because they don't want to get shut down., The patches are illegal anywhere. So what if you distribute in 2 pieces. EVERY ONE OF YOU HAVE SIGPATCHES. and you all know what they are for. Anyone who says they are above piracy or anything else is diluted and a liar. You don't have to admit it. But you ain't gotta lie to kick it. Com'on son. I still think the whole "That guy ripped off the thing I built to rip nintendo off" argument is weak. I know how this will go. But it's the truth.

Stop censoring the information on here to make yourself comfortable Trump. If it's not the whole truth it's a lie. And it's not your concern what I do with my machine. Please..

"My sex and my drugs and my rock n roll are my own fucking business. I don't tell your wife what position to fuck you in" - Perry Farrell

 

[linuxares]

Actually, Atmosphere is totally legal. But the Fusee-Gelee exploit isn't technically legal according to the DMCA.

 

[Adran_Marit]

Actually, Atmosphere is totally legal. But the Fusee-Gelee exploit isn't technically legal according to the DMCA.

yup if it wasn't it would have been shut down by now

 

[mikefor20]

Until you apply the patches. Atmo rests in a legal grey area. In some countries you would lose in court just for possesion of it. I was pre law a long long time ago. Few lawyers in my family. They all agree that the grey area is enough to keep the developers safe. Not my fault what they do. But the act of running Atmosphere breaks the EULA and a few other laws technically. Running unauthorized code, breaking the EULA and running software that is capable of circumventing any part of the security is illegal. Atmo certainly does all of that. The bootloader is part of security. But since it doesn't enable piracy out of the box, those are all grey area problems. The inclusion of ninty code(sx) or the specific code needed to tun pirated software(patches) is 100% illegal.Atmo has no patches.. But Atmosphere is intended to use patches..Grey..That's where it stands. Not quite illegal. Still doesn't mean that everywhere in every country it's legal to possess and run atmosphere.

 

[ImSoHandsome]

lmao people pirating games, music, movies getting butthurt at others pirating the code. What a bunch of hypocrites.

 

[catlover007]

Believe it or not, but there exist people who hack their console not for free games. Yes I can't really see the point myself, but I've heared that the people behind Atmosphere, other tools which enable homebrew and most homebrew authors themselves think similarly, which is why they always say piracy (and explicitly patches that enable this) are not supported *wink wink

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guess what I am one of those people!

 

[pofehof]

But Atmosphere is intended to use patches

Sure, but it's up to the user to load them. The way atmosphere is loaded means, out of the box, it can't be used for piracy.

If a server is anti-piracy, you are best to respect it by not talking about sigpatches, SXOS, etc.

Yes I can't really see the point myself, but I've heared that the people behind Atmosphere, other tools which enable homebrew and most homebrew itself think similarly.

Save backups, editing, restore, etc. Nand backups too.

 

[Kioku]

Sure, but it's up to the user to load them. The way atmosphere is loaded means, out of the box, it can't be used for piracy.

If a server is anti-piracy, you are best to respect it by not talking about sigpatches, SXOS, etc.



Save backups, editing, restore, etc. Nand backups too.

It's a catch-22. You don't have to be talking about Warez or sigpatches. Bringing up that you're even running SXOS warrants a ban in some of these servers. Doesn't matter if its main selling point is piracy. Or if it contains "illegal keys". To alienate users because they Use SX. Even if they come in asking for homebrew help is just terrible.

Those on Mariko or patched units currently only have cfw through SX mods. No? Legitimate question. I've been out of the loop for 2 years.

 

[pofehof]

To alienate users because they Use SX. Even if they come in asking for homebrew help is just terrible.

I disagree. SX OS, unlike Atmosphere, comes with piracy enabled right away, which is something anyone who pays for this OS will know.

 

[Kioku]

Believe it or not, but there exist people who hack their console not for free games. Yes I can't really see the point myself, but I've heared that the people behind Atmosphere, other tools which enable homebrew and most homebrew authors themselves think similarly, which is why they always say piracy (and explicitly patches that enable this) are not supported *wink wink

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guess what I am one of those people!

Believe it or not, I don't want to hack my Switch for pirated games. The mods, homebrew and patches are good enough for me.

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I disagree. SX OS, unlike Atmosphere, comes with piracy enabled right away, which is something anyone who pays for this OS will know.

Again, you can (most do) pirate using sigpatches on Atmosphere. It's absolutely bullshit to cut out users who may not have the luxury of choosing their cfw. Which, as far as i know, Mariko units kinda don't. So, yeah... It's not okay.

Honestly. The scene hasn't changed for the better since I've been out of the loop. I came back hoping that maybe the elitism would be dead, but holy shit was I wrong. I've got a system coming back with SX Core installed. Now I'm stuck in a console hacking scene where egos rule. Great. Guess I better not expect much help.

 

[pofehof]

Again, you can (most do) pirate using sigpatches on Atmosphere.

But this is a choice on the user. As I have said before, when they download a clean Atmosphere, they are unable to pirate right away. At that point, Atmosphere is strictly for homebrew, patches, etc.

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It's absolutely bullshit to cut out users who may not have the luxury of choosing their cfw.

lolwut. People who are buying SX OS know what they are getting. They are not being forced to spend money.

 

[catlover007]

Again, you can (most do) pirate using sigpatches on Atmosphere. It's absolutely bullshit to cut out users who may not have the luxury of choosing their cfw. Which, as far as i know, Mariko units kinda don't. So, yeah... It's not okay.

that's a special situation. Though besides that you can't ask for support, you can still try to run everything you want on it (and hope SX OS doesn't mess it up).

 

[Kioku]

that's a special situation. Though besides that you can't ask for support, you can still try to run everything you want on it (and hope SX OS doesn't mess it up).

Experimenting is always fun.

 

[ChaosEternal]

lmao people pirating games, music, movies getting butthurt at others pirating the code. What a bunch of hypocrites.

Stealing a copy of a work and claiming to be the one who created the original are obviously different on their face. Stealing credit is something that I personally find to be far more infuriating than the stealing of a physical item.

 

[Lumince]

Its always been a tradition to hate the paid CFW guys. Its in the scenes blood. Theres no getting around it lol Why would anyone want to be in a place that bans them for their choices anyways? Most servers that are anti SXOS usually have it in their rules, or they atleast have something about no piracy talk. SXOS is built for piracy. You cant deny that. You all know what you are buying.

To anyone saying that the community is still toxic for hating and shunning sxos users... thats the nintendo scene for you. There is always somethat is hated... The communitys will always have their toxic sides. If you hate it, you might wanna try just ignoring it or blocking everyone.

 

[mikefor20]

I all hypocrite logic bullshit politics and it's not up to the temp, the zealots or the morons to tell me what to run on my system. If that's the case you can't play Animal Crossing anymore. Because I said so.

But this is a choice on the user. As I have said before, when they download a clean Atmosphere, they are unable to pirate right away. At that point, Atmosphere is strictly for homebrew, patches, etc



lolwut. People who are buying SX OS know what they are getting. They are not being forced to spend money.

This always gets me. NOBODY runs atmosphere without patches. You mad someone spent $50? Whats it to ya? Sounds to me like people get mad their mommies don't buy them SXOS so they get mad. Please. And like I said, Atmo in its purest form still allows unsigned code to be run. That's what home-brew is. Atmo and Hombrew is legal in the USA. but running the software isn't necessarily legal.. And in some countries neither is homebrew. As well as possession of software that runs unsigned code. Or violating the EULA. Get it?

Stealing a copy of a work and claiming to be the one who created the original are obviously different on their face. Stealing credit is something that I personally find to be far more infuriating than the stealing of a physical item.

So nice to be on a pedestal where you can pick and choose what kind of theft is theft. Judge Judy? No offense but you opinion doesn't amount to anything in court. Petty theft if theft. Stealing a TV is theft. Stealing code is theft. It's all the same.

 

[ZachyCatGames]

EVERY ONE OF YOU HAVE SIGPATCHES.

I don't.

NOBODY runs atmosphere without patches.

I do.

 

[mikefor20]

Its always been a tradition to hate the paid CFW guys. Its in the scenes blood. Theres no getting around it lol Why would anyone want to be in a place that bans them for their choices anyways? Most servers that are anti SXOS usually have it in their rules, or they atleast have something about no piracy talk. SXOS is built for piracy. You cant deny that. You all know what you are buying.

To anyone saying that the community is still toxic for hating and shunning sxos users... thats the nintendo scene for you. There is always somethat is hated... The communitys will always have their toxic sides. If you hate it, you might wanna try just ignoring it or blocking everyone.

It's all built to pirate something. All of it. "Mainline pokemon game announced, looks ike I am gonna have to write a CFW" sound familiar? Modding game saves is illegal too in some jurisdictions. You have no real high horse. I forgot. you are all probably teenagers. No use arguing. TTYL PIrate

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I don't.

I do.

You're 1 in a million or a liar! And you know you're not the norm.

Sure, but it's up to the user to load them. The way atmosphere is loaded means, out of the box, it can't be used for piracy.
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That gun is harmless and not intended to kill. Another company made the bullets and I can't help if they happen to be compatible with my 100% safe gun.. I understand the BS legal precedence. But you know that it's all al lie. Please..