Hacking Sx Core and Sx Lite , test Units Received

[JonJaded]

Has any news came out about what's actually coming on SX 3.0.0? Obviously support for the new exploit but I know tx has been teasing new features for like the past year and a half. I'm hoping they don't dissapoint. I can't even remember the last time sxos has added anything monumental.

 

[Chrisssj2]

If only the new units will be able to accees the 1200 mhz gpu speeds.. one can hope.. But might be limited in the firmware..

 

[MrSandstorm]

Wat. If you’re referring to Nintendo taking gateway/TX’s stuff down, they’re literally selling piracy devices made for stealing Nintendo‘s games (they also include Nintendo binaries, and have some of Nintendo’s keys hardcoded into their CFW). I see absolutely no issues with Nintendo taking it down.

I'd agree with you if the Switch was like a computer and Microsoft decided to go after someone for selling an OS that included their work without permission. This isn't the case, though.

Nintendo tries their best to make the Switch not work with anything that isn't their "authorized" software, and it may end up being necessary to use their stuff in order to run custom software.

Also, these devices are not exclusively meant for piracy. Whether they enable piracy or not is another discussion and honestly, pretty much irrelevant here. It's something like the "guns enable murder" debate, and better left alone.

Until companies (not just Nintendo) provide proper means for owners to use their devices as they see fit - again, like a computer where I can choose the software that runs on it - devices that break security measures are pretty much the only way for people to actually own the products they pay for.

 

[Astur_torque]

Wow, the fact that courts are giving such power to companies instead of the users and customers is such a scary thing. They are basically forcing their TOS to be law now.
And what baffles me even more is that there is still people defending Nintendo and their shit practices to screw over the customers and fans desires.

Keep it going, you so called justice knights, and soon you won't be able to even turn on the device without Nintendo's permission.

nah.. that only happens in the states.. in Europe the companies don't have that power

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This is all I got and no refund yet does say 7-14 days

There's something I can't understand...

Most resellers only receive money for telling the main store/factory/shop where to sent the packets... I can't get the point of this.. why don't you order directly to the chinese shop?

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Wat. If you’re referring to Nintendo taking gateway/TX’s stuff down, they’re literally selling piracy devices made for stealing Nintendo‘s games (they also include Nintendo binaries, and have some of Nintendo’s keys hardcoded into their CFW). I see absolutely no issues with Nintendo taking it down.

I don't agree with you.. the device is MINE I paid for the hardware. What if I want to boot Android in this device or using it for other reasons... what if I never boot Nintendo's official software

You are free whether you use it for pirating games or not. But I want this piece or harfware to make a decision whether to do it or not.

Nintendo licks my foot

 

[Rahkeesh]

If only the new units will be able to accees the 1200 mhz gpu speeds.. one can hope.. But might be limited in the firmware..

One challenge is going to be how many homebrew devs will even look at hardware that can only be hacked via TX.

 

[Astur_torque]

I'd agree with you if the Switch was like a computer and Microsoft decided to go after someone for selling an OS that included their work without permission. This isn't the case, though.

Nintendo tries their best to make the Switch not work with anything that isn't their "authorized" software, and it may end up being necessary to use their stuff in order to run custom software.

Also, these devices are not exclusively meant for piracy. Whether they enable piracy or not is another discussion and honestly, pretty much irrelevant here. It's something like the "guns enable murder" debate, and better left alone.

Until companies (not just Nintendo) provide proper means for owners to use their devices as they see fit - again, like a computer where I can choose the software that runs on it - devices that break security measures are pretty much the only way for people to actually own the products they pay for.

Exactly

That reminds me when manufacters say the hardware is not yours, it's the company's... sorry but no you pay not just for the use of the software but also the hardware is enterily yours

 

[DoomVirus]

Lite version parts reminds me of ps3 cobra ode.
And the led is like "rghing"...nice!

 

[veenx0704]

does this come with sx os license or no?

 

[JonJaded]

does this come with sx os license or no?

Both the core and the lite come with licenses.

 

[ZachyCatGames]

Nintendo tries their best to make the Switch not work with anything that isn't their "authorized" software, and it may end up being necessary to use their stuff in order to run custom software.

Also, these devices are not exclusively meant for piracy. Whether they enable piracy or not is another discussion and honestly, pretty much irrelevant here. It's something like the "guns enable murder" debate, and better left alone.

Until companies (not just Nintendo) provide proper means for owners to use their devices as they see fit - again, like a computer where I can choose the software that runs on it - devices that break security measures are pretty much the only way for people to actually own the products they pay for.

Except none of the keys/binaries they include with their firmware are required for anything they do. Everything they include can be dumped in some way, they just wanted to do it the lazy way.
Either way, it does include Nintendo's shit, so Nintendo is well within their rights to take it down if they want to.

SXOS includes patches that serve absolutely zero purpose outside of piracy (namely es patches), as such, I call it a piracy firmware.

 

[1NOOB]

Except none of the keys/binaries they include with their firmware are required for anything they do. Everything they include can be dumped in some way, they just wanted to do it the lazy way.
Either way, it does include Nintendo's shit, so Nintendo is well within their rights to take it down if they want to.

SXOS includes patches that serve absolutely zero purpose outside of piracy (namely es patches), as such, I call it a piracy firmware.

lol piracy drm

 

[rbtnt]

 

[izy]

2 minutes into shit dubstep and he manages to finally align the flex cable.
Also didnt even clean his cpu properly thermal between all caps and he has to pick cotton still stuck on.
Proceeds to solder to caps first and then then2 pads which are solely there to keep the flex cable from moving which helps alignment and soldering.

Replaces the thermal on cpu.
Cant say anything about above the copper sticker which is clearly not cleaned or replaced fuck me these shrek repairs.

 

[MrSandstorm]

Except none of the keys/binaries they include with their firmware are required for anything they do. Everything they include can be dumped in some way, they just wanted to do it the lazy way.
Either way, it does include Nintendo's shit, so Nintendo is well within their rights to take it down if they want to.

SXOS includes patches that serve absolutely zero purpose outside of piracy (namely es patches), as such, I call it a piracy firmware.

I honestly don't know enough about the Switch hardware to say anything for sure, but don't consoles usually have some form of hardware-level encryption? The PSVita, for example, has an encrypted bootloader that requires a hardware-level component with a built-in key to access. In order to run "non-authorized" software that key would be required.

It wouldn't make much sense to waste development time including a component that isn't required to do anything, and dumping keys is usually a complicated, time-consuming process that's completely out of reach for anyone that's not both highly knowledgeable on electronic design AND very familiar with the specific device in question. So including keys is pretty much a necessity if you want the average user to be able to run custom software.

Also, AFAIK these patches enable stuff like copying save data and installing software without a valid signature, not necessarily games. Also, the argument of being able to create backup copies of your games will always be valid, so no, it's not a "piracy firmware", and the possibility of doing the same things in different, maybe more morally pleasing ways doesn't change that.

BTW, Nintendo has made it pretty clear that they're perfectly capable and willing to defend their interests, so there's no point in arguing that they are "well withing their rights" to do something. They can fight for that notion on their own.

 

[ZachyCatGames]

I honestly don't know enough about the Switch hardware to say anything for sure, but don't consoles usually have some form of hardware-level encryption? The PSVita, for example, has an encrypted bootloader that requires a hardware-level component with a built-in key to access. In order to run "non-authorized" software that key would be required.

It wouldn't make much sense to waste development time including a component that isn't required to do anything, and dumping keys is usually a complicated, time-consuming process that's completely out of reach for anyone that's not both highly knowledgeable on electronic design AND very familiar with the specific device in question. So including keys is pretty much a necessity if you want the average user to be able to run custom software.

Also, AFAIK these patches enable stuff like copying save data and installing software without a valid signature, not necessarily games. Also, the argument of being able to create backup copies of your games will always be valid, so no, it's not a "piracy firmware", and the possibility of doing the same things in different, maybe more morally pleasing ways doesn't change that.

BTW, Nintendo has made it pretty clear that they're perfectly capable and willing to defend their interests, so there's no point in arguing that they are "well withing their rights" to do something. They can fight for that notion on their own.

The key they hardcode is a (partially obfuscated) tsec_root_key iirc, which is the key that pretty much all of the non-console unique keys get derived from. AMS had a way of dumping it (sept) literally weeks before SX started hardcoding it.

es patches specifically are purely for installing pirated eshop titles, with no other uses/purpose, they’re not used/needed when running legitimate backups or homebrew.

 

[Xandroz]

hhhh so this dude gets picked up as a tester for his skills while i dont.
jeez that guy is a complete noob.
im not a pro in soldering but after seeing someone with that skill manage that install, i can call the install a walk in a park for me

 

[linuxares]

hhhh so this dude gets picked up as a tester for his skills while i dont.
jeez that guy is a complete noob.
im not a pro in soldering but after seeing someone with that skill manage that install, i can call the install a walk in a park for me

The awful cleaning is what bothers me the most...

 

[Xandroz]

he didnt even bother to clean it and it still managed to work so id say that as a pass from xecuter.
and the channel is called micro soldering repairs.
that just made my day

 

[MrSandstorm]

The key they hardcode is a (partially obfuscated) tsec_root_key iirc, which is the key that pretty much all of the non-console unique keys get derived from. AMS had a way of dumping it (sept) literally weeks before SX started hardcoding it.

es patches specifically are purely for installing pirated eshop titles, with no other uses/purpose, they’re not used/needed when running legitimate backups or homebrew.

You obviously know more about the Switch than I do, so I'll just trust you on the keys topic. Still, even if there's a viable method for dumping it, I think including them on the firmware makes life easier for users. I have no idea how (or if) copyright law applies to keys - can the keys by themselves even be considered intellectual property? And of course, different countries may have different laws.

About the es patches, yeah, I agree that something that specifically affects eshop tickets smells awfully like a piracy-specific thing, but I think the backup argument still applies. One may not have an internet connection that allows for re-downloading an entirely library if necessary (unstable, low bandwidth, data caps, etc...) and at some point in the future the servers will be shut down, so the ability to backup eshop titles may be necessary.

 

[aos10]

I just watched it and what the hell?????
This video is very disturbing
Even for me who only done very few soldering in the university.
I'll be surprised if his device didn't brick after 10 minutes.