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This is no reason to use the term transphobic to hush others peoples freedom of speech, make them conform to your standards or otherwise try to control them

I completely agree with you, nobody should use words or names to censor other people and their beliefs/observations.

Though, it is also okay for them to assume things about you based on their own beliefs, as long as they aren't trying to censor you and/or convert/control/disown you based on misassumptions and/or disagreeing with your views/beliefs.

Also, I'm glad that you take a chance to get to know these people individually even if you don't completely agree with their lifestyle choices and/or group affiliation (sorry if those are incorrect assumptions), that's very good of you to do.

Nobody should use words to disown a person just because they don't agree with them, this is something that happens a lot between multiple groups.
 

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I just got back from McDonald's. I chose the eat the Big Mac and didn't get a McFlurry because I don't like them. I admit I was discriminating internally. So what phobia am I suffering from?
As I said, I don't feel as though you were showing any phobias (like transphobia, seriously, they need to make a different word for it just so it's less misleading.).
I am glad that you can understand that it was discrimination. It makes it a lot easier to understand where you're coming from.

You seem like you're a good person who honestly doesn't want to hurt people and just wants to have their freedoms without the fear of someone hating you over your choices/beliefs, or labeling you as something that you are not. I can understand your position.
 
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While not exactly a transphobe, I can relate to cots.
Why? Because according to anyone else, I'm a homophobe (also know by most people on the internet as a douchebag).
 

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While not exactly a transphobe, I can relate to cots.
Why? Because according to anyone else, I'm a homophobe (also know by most people on the internet as a douchebag).

As long as you aren't actively trying to put people down, or hurt them due to their sexual orientation (and/or other defining factors about themselves [unless these are choices that they have made specifically to hurt others]), then that's okay. Everybody has a right to feel the way they do about others and their lifestyles. Sometimes, certain peoples attractions/beliefs, don't feel right with people and it can make them either uncomfortable or (usually in religious cases) offended. And for quite a few people, that isn't a choice on their part (Though, for some people, it is a choice), it's the same for certain orientations who are disgusted at the thought of their opposite orientation(s) (And once again, for some people, it is a choice).

As long as you're not trying to hurt/manipulate others, then it's okay to have different feelings about them.

There's one rule in life I always try to follow.

"Don't be a f***ing c**t"
- Me (IDK what the policy on swearing is like in this forum so, apologies for the censoring...)
 

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As long as you aren't actively trying to put people down, or hurt them due to their sexual orientation (and/or other defining factors about themselves [unless these are choices that they have made specifically to hurt others]), then that's okay. Everybody has a right to feel the way they do about others and their lifestyles. Sometimes, certain peoples attractions/beliefs, don't feel right with people and it can make them either uncomfortable or (usually in religious cases) offended. And for quite a few people, that isn't a choice on their part (Though, for some people, it is a choice), it's the same for certain orientations who are disgusted at the thought of their opposite orientation(s) (And once again, for some people, it is a choice).

As long as you're not trying to hurt/manipulate others, then it's okay to have different feelings about them.
Then I'm okay.
(IDK what the policy on swearing is like in this forum so, apologies for the censoring...)
While not enforced (I've tried my hands at a petition), censoring is a good practice, though not a common one. But then again what do I know I've been here for over a year and I still only have a hundred and thirty nine posts.
 
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According to an LGBT server I was in, I'm a homophobe for saying Sonicfox's antics make us look bad and it's embarrassing to be gay with the kind of attention he's attracting.
 

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Jesus he's still comparing disliking certain sets of people to disliking... food or some shit like that.

What's wrong with you?


And most of you other guys, your issue isn't with LGBT people, it's with DICKS ONLINE!

Some humans are dicks. LGBT are humans.
Some LGBT are dicks.

Don't conflate the two like they're one and the same to justify your homophobia.

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I just got back from McDonald's. I chose the eat the Big Mac and didn't get a McFlurry because I don't like them. I admit I was discriminating internally. So what phobia am I suffering from?

It's not a phobia, it's being a dumbass.
The fact that you keep comparing your dislike of people to your dislike of objects and food shows exactly what type of person you are.
 
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Jesus he's still comparing disliking certain sets of people to disliking... food or some shit like that.

What's wrong with you?

The constant comparison between food and humans is quite frankly hilarious he fails to understand that humans unlike food have feelings that his dislike may hurt.
 
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A transphobic person getting mad because people tell him what he is. Maybe you should just admit it and shut. There's no salvation for people like you.
 
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A transphobic person getting mad because people tell him what he is. Maybe you should just admit it and shut. There's no salvation for people like you.

Except, I'm not transphobic and the people calling me it are trying to shame me as an attempt to silence my opinions or to make me conform to their standards. I'm not transphobic because I do not support the current trans movement nor want anything to do with the life stlye associated with it. Calling me names and telling me I have no salvation is a prime example of the hate, bias and controlling factors that I am talking about. However, I'm not negative and believe there is hope for you.

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The constant comparison between food and humans is quite frankly hilarious he fails to understand that humans unlike food have feelings that his dislike may hurt.

Well, in either case I'm not being phobic of either the food or the person. I understand food doesn't get insulted when it can't control me.

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According to an LGBT server I was in, I'm a homophobe for saying Sonicfox's antics make us look bad and it's embarrassing to be gay with the kind of attention he's attracting.

According to some people I'm also homophobic, which doesn't make sense because I've dated both women and men. I just don't agree with various ways certain groups of homosexuals protray themselves or treat their bodies - so I'm homophobic.
 
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@cots you keep going on about your right to free speach and you should be able to say what you want yet you keep trying to shut up the trans community and take away their rights to free speak including using free speach to call someone transphobic if they think the person is.

You may or may not be transphobic but you certainly are a hypocrite that's for sure.
 

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According to an LGBT server I was in, I'm a homophobe for saying Sonicfox's antics make us look bad and it's embarrassing to be gay with the kind of attention he's attracting.

Now try putting up with that sort of hypocrisy coming from the current generations mainstream groups. I don't find other groups, especially the trans groups I've been involved the past, calling me a transphobic. They would be the first to tell you that I'm so far away from being one that it's silly even to consider such a thing and they would also agree with me that people are abusing the term transphobic.

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@cots you keep going on about your right to free speach and you should be able to say what you want yet you keep trying to shut up the trans community and take away their rights to free speak including using free speach to call someone transphobic if they think the person is.

You may or may not be transphobic but you certainly are a hypocrite that's for sure.

I don't want to take away the trans communities rights to abuse a word in a manner meant to control, shame and manipulate others. I rather that people realize that this is happening and stop doing it. Even better, for the people that are victims of such hate coming from the trans community to stand up and not be silenced! I'm not saying they can't do it or there should be some law made to stop them from doing it (which is what the trans community is seeking to do to other people). I'm better than that.
 
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Yet you are not going on about people claiming falsely about homophobic abuse or racist abuse or sexual abuse ect ect

You are not going on about how wrong real transphobic or homophobic or racist people are ect ect

You have focused in on one thing which quite frankly comes across as bullying tactics and a complete and utter hatred of all trans people. I am sure there is a word for a person like that but I'm not gonna use it.
 

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And most of you other guys, your issue isn't with LGBT people, it's with DICKS ONLINE!
Actually, no. I dislike the pure concept of homosexuality. Not the gays themselves, but the concept of being gay.
Whether that makes me a **** is purely up to your opinion.
 

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You have focused in on one thing which quite frankly comes across as bullying tactics and a complete and utter hatred of all trans people. I am sure there is a word for a person like that but I'm not gonna use it.

Well, considering I don't hate trans people I don't think your observation is valid. I'm not bullying anyone - I'm the one being bullied, although I'm not going to act like a victim. I will continue to expose the misuse of the term transphobic by the trans community as a way to silence, shame, manipulate, bully or otherwise try to control the other people who do not simply agree with them when there is no actual phobic behavior taking place. I suggest if you think you're being pushed around by conversing with me to simply walk away and avoid doing so. I'm not forcing you to do so and I can't help it if you're taking it personally. However, you won't silence me. I didn't start the name calling and abuse from the trans community, but I'm sure as hell not going to back down now that I am a target of it.
 
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Actually, no. I dislike the pure concept of homosexuality. Not the gays themselves, but the concept of being gay.
Whether that makes me a **** is purely up to your opinion.


why do you even feel the need to pretend like there's a distinction between these two things?
It definitely and objectively does make you a dick, yeah...
 

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To anyone who thinks I'm being a bully. Please refer to the comments the trans community is making on the original article I linked to in the first post relating to the trans women who agrees with the fact that transphobia is being misused and you're most likely not transphobic. The clear and utter vile hatred toward her is a prime example of the toxic garbage that I'm addressing and dealing with. There is no excuse to treat a member of your own group let alone someone not in your group that has an opposing view like they are doing.
 
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