Homebrew Question XCIs on 7.0.1?

[Clapmaster]

There's really no such thing as a legal backup and it's odd to me that you install from XCI instead of just using NSP files since you don't use sxos but to each his own I guess.

 

[TPMJB]

There's really no such thing as a legal backup and it's odd to me that you install from XCI instead of just using NSP files since you don't use sxos but to each his own I guess.

Uh, yeah there is such a thing. The court case revolved around people taping movies/etc with their VCRs. Backups are legal. Using other people's backups is copyright infringement. I own all the games I made "backups" of, and I installed them so that I don't have to dig through my increasingly large pile of games.

Go back to school. You obviously didn't learn enough.

Edit: For everyone's knowledge: https://consumerist.com/2014/01/17/...preme-court-saved-the-vcr-from-certain-death/

No I wasn't alive during this time.

 

[Clapmaster]

Uh, yeah there is such a thing. The court case revolved around people taping movies/etc with their VCRs. Backups are legal. Using other people's backups is copyright infringement. I own all the games I made "backups" of, and I installed them so that I don't have to dig through my increasingly large pile of games.

Go back to school. You obviously didn't learn enough.

Did you purchase a second license to use that copy that you made?

 

[urherenow]

The only thing SX allows me to do is to boot the XCI files without installing them.

Huh? They have their own installer for XCI files. It's up to version 1.4.

Did you purchase a second license to use that copy that you made?

Fair Use Act. You don't need to.

 

[TPMJB]

Did you purchase a second license to use that copy that you made?

Did you go to school? I linked the court case. You don't need to

Huh? They have their own installer for XCI files. It's up to version 1.4.

IIRC they could also just boot XCIs without installing them.

 

[Clapmaster]

Fair Use Act. You don't need to.

"Fair Use" is kind of bs because it only protects specific instances of copyright infringement such as those where the content is being used for nonprofit educational purposes, reporting or review etc.

 

[TPMJB]

"Fair Use" is kind of bs because it only protects specific instances of copyright infringement such as those where the content is being used for nonprofit educational purposes, reporting or review etc.

Dude...READ THE COURT JUDGMENT

Holy fuck. To be this fucking stupid.

Here's the actual court case, instead of a Consumerist article: https://www.law.cornell.edu/copyright/cases/464_US_417.htm

 

[Clapmaster]

Did you go to school? I linked the court case. You don't need to

I fail to see how a court case that happened over 30 years ago over betamax players relates at all whatsoever to any of this but I'm not going to argue over it. Also you don't need to go to school to know what piracy is.

 

[TPMJB]

I fail to see how a court case that happened over 30 years ago over betamax players relates at all whatsoever to any of this but I'm not going to argue over it. Also you don't need to go to school to know what piracy is.

"I fail to see how a supreme court case regarding MAKING BACKUP COPIES is relevant to anything besides betamax players"

Shouldn't you be in school? Or working your McJob?

 

[Clapmaster]

"I fail to see how a supreme court case regarding MAKING BACKUP COPIES is relevant to anything besides betamax players"

Shouldn't you be in school? Or working your McJob?

You don't need to resort to insults and I got off of work 3 hours ago. Funny thing is I'm not even anti-piracy but I'll admit to doing it. If I copy a game I'm not gonna sit here and say it's a legal copy.

 

[TPMJB]

You don't need to resort to insults and I got off of work 3 hours ago. Funny thing is I'm not even anti-piracy but I'll admit to doing it. If I copy a game I'm not gonna sit here and say it's a legal copy.

The insults are because you seemingly have the inability to read. Backup copies are legal. Using OTHER PEOPLE'S backup copies is NOT legal.

The grey area is circumventing copyright protection, which in itself is not legal (DMCA violation.) But the actual backup copy is legal. It's not circumventing copyright protection when using the system itself to extract it.

Again, I can only assume it's a McJob or something that doesn't require reading. "OMG Betamax is not Nintendo Switch! It's not relevant!1111"

 

[Clapmaster]

The insults are because you seemingly have the inability to read. Backup copies are legal. Using OTHER PEOPLE'S backup copies is NOT legal.

The grey area is circumventing copyright protection, which in itself is not legal (DMCA violation.) But the actual backup copy is legal. It's not circumventing copyright protection when using the system itself to extract it.

Again, I can only assume it's a McJob or something that doesn't require reading. "OMG Betamax is not Nintendo Switch! It's not relevant!1111"

Hey man there's really no way for us to know whether your argument would hold up in court so I'm just gonna say we're both wrong, the whole thing's a grey area and leave it at that.

 

[ZachyCatGames]

To my knowledge there isn't a way to run any backup without patches, legal or otherwise.

If you make a legitimate dump of an eshop games that you legitimately own, completely uninstall the game, and install the legitimate backup you won’t need any patches

The only purpose for ES patches is piracy

 

[TPMJB]

If you make a legitimate dump of an eshop games that you legitimately own, completely uninstall the game, and install the legitimate backup you won’t need any patches

The only purpose for ES patches is piracy

I mean, I can take pictures of all the titles I own and then my home screen with them all installed lol. Is there some better way to install them "legally"? I use N1dus after making a dump with WAIN dump tool.

 

[ZachyCatGames]

I mean, I can take pictures of all the titles I own and then my home screen with them all installed lol. Is there some better way to install them "legally"? I use N1dus after making a dump with WAIN dump tool.

That’s probably the most “legal” way you could do it

 

[tinkle]

If you dump your cart as XCI, then "install", which is simply converting to NSP first anyway, your certificate is invalid regardless and you may as well have pirated the dump from some site online. Only running XCI's that are mounted by SXOS is an exception to this.

 

[JonJaded]

To my knowledge there isn't a way to run any backup without patches, legal or otherwise.

Can't installed XCIs could be ran w/o patches? I thought it was because they don't need titlekeys, and because the data is already decrypted or am I wrong?

 

[ZachyCatGames]

Can't installed XCIs could be ran w/o patches? I thought it was because they don't need titlekeys, and because the data is already decrypted or am I wrong?

for xcis you don’t need ES patches (ticket patches), but you do need FS patches

 

[TPMJB]

If you dump your cart as XCI, then "install", which is simply converting to NSP first anyway, your certificate is invalid regardless and you may as well have pirated the dump from some site online. Only running XCI's that are mounted by SXOS is an exception to this.

Well, that *sounds* like bullshit since I've been running from August on without a ban. Atmosphere patches are supposed to circumvent this.

SXOS is shit and so is Team-X.

 

[tinkle]

No patch protects you from a ban. You hit Nintendo's servers and eventually you get banned. Even transferring saves from a hacked system to a clean one can get your console banned, hunny. You seem to confuse aggression and hostility for a sense of authority on the subject though, so you do you <3