Homebrew Discussion Switch overclocking released (improved N64 & PSX emu)

[m4xw]

To be honest I kind off do think so. Please educate me if I am wrong.

Running 24/7 for weeks already on max clock and full load

 

[KHEOPS]

It is difficult to test the limits and tolerance to overclock
Tools are needed, such as checking the number of error copies ram, to refine the limits oc,temperature,and the possibility to adjust the voltage, otherwise it is difficult
Thanks to you for the tests
Sorry about the switch, which is screwed for testing the oc

 

[m4xw]

Sorry about the switch, which is screwed for testing the oc

While these values are in the nvidia's spec. and everything is underclocked to begin with, we will only know in a few years.

 

[M7L7NK7]

Overclocking has been publicly available information for months. It's literally 3 lines of code. You're not only off base in your characterization of the issue, but you've totally ignored the part about us actuallycaring whether or not we ruin users consoles.

Is the code that's been released safe? Or is it a use at your own risk thing

 

[Beware]

Is the code that's been released safe? Or is it a use at your own risk thing

It is and always will be "use at your own risk."

 

[grabman]

Just want to confirm that only the git link code which requires compiling has been released? Nothing user friendly is available?

 

[lolboy]

Running 24/7 for weeks already on max clock and full load

Did not expect this. Respect.

 

[M7L7NK7]

It is and always will be "use at your own risk."

But if the code has been released is it safe enough?

 

[DaniPoo]

But if the code has been released is it safe enough?

If I told you yes, what would you do? Take my word for it?
would you compile it and run it on your machine?

 

[M7L7NK7]

If I told you yes, what would you do? Take my word for it?
would you compile it and run it on your machine?

If it was released by the developers after they had tested it and there was no clear warning, I'd assume it was okay

 

[Beware]

But if the code has been released is it safe enough?

I'll say it a little louder for those still confused:

The overclock is and will always be "Use at your own risk."

 

[DaniPoo]

Actually, if they can't understand what critical code like this does, they should NOT overclock.
It really is that simple as that.
You don't give a baby a knife

Well I get your point, but isn't it really enough to know the basics of how a compute unit works, what overclocking does and how it affects the temperature, power consumption and stability?
I would't really expect anyone to have to understand exactly how the code behind changing the clock-rate works.

But maybe I missunderstood you..

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If it was released by the developers after they had tested it and there was no clear warning, I'd assume it was okay

There you go, Just wait for that to happen (Trust me you will know when it happens, it will probably be like the biggest news that week)

 

[M7L7NK7]

There you go, Just wait for that to happen (Trust me you will know when it happens, it will probably be like the biggest news that week)

I mean if the code was released for people to compile themselves you'd assume that it's at a point where it isn't that dangerous

 

[Beware]

The code has been publicly available for months. There is and never will be a scenario where Overclocking a device beyond its manufacturer chosen power constraints is "risk free." There are no equivocations to be had.

I mean if the code was released for people to compile themselves you'd assume that it's at a point where it isn't that dangerous

 

[M7L7NK7]

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[DaniPoo]

I mean if the code was released for people to compile themselves you'd assume that it's at a point where it isn't that dangerous

Maybe not.. but there might also be a reason why it's not in the Nightlies yet.

I would not want to try it out before it's confirmed to work well.
Even if it's not dangerous (and I really doubt it would be) it could still be very unstable.
I don't like having my switch constantly crash, and then I have to reinject payloads and blablabla..
Nightlies are not really the most stable, but trying out stuff that havent even made it there yet. Thats not my cup of tea.. It might be yours

 

[DaniPoo]

The code has been publicly available for months. There is and never will be a scenario where Overclocking a device beyond its manufacturer chosen power constraints is "risk free." There are no equivocations to be had.

Well, thats debatable, Companies usually underclock their devices abit more than they really have to in order to stay on the safe side..
They don't like lawsuits. And if they can say "Hey we can not be held responsible for your Switch overheating because we are meeting all the requirements for this Nvidia chip, in fact we are not even running it at full speed" then they will do that. It's all about keeping their ass out of trouble.

I would argue that overclocking the switch a bit is probably perfectly safe.
How much, I don't know..

 

[m4xw]

Well, thats debatable, Companies usually underclock their devices abit more than they really have to in order to stay on the safe side..
They don't like lawsuits. And if they can say "Hey we can not be held responsible for your Switch overheating because we are meeting all the requirements for this Nvidia chip, in fact we are not even running it at full speed" then they will do that. It's all about keeping their ass out of trouble.

I would argue that overclocking the switch a bit is probably perfectly safe.
How much, I don't know..

The SoC's stock clock is 1.9 Ghz, yet we run at 1020 mhz
It's really just a question about the other components and only time will tell that in detail.

 

[DaniPoo]

Did u ever looked at the dynarec code?
It's months and months of work. Half knowledge? that wont get you far.

Here is a bounty we put up for n64 https://www.bountysource.com/issues/63766562-bounty-write-an-arm64-dynarec
Feel free to create one for PSX too

Don't the PSX and N64 use the same CPU architecture MIPS? So if a Dynarec is created for N64 is could probably lay the ground for a PSX dynarec as well?

 

[Beware]

Well, thats debatable, Companies usually underclock their devices abit more than they really have to in order to stay on the safe side..
They don't like lawsuits. And if they can say "Hey we can not be held responsible for your Switch overheating because we are meeting all the requirements for this Nvidia chip, in fact we are not even running it at full speed" then they will do that. It's all about keeping their ass out of trouble.

I would argue that overclocking the switch a bit is probably perfectly safe.
How much, I don't know..

I didn't say an OC would cause your switch to explode. I said it is "Use at your own risk" and nothing that has been said has any bearing on that fact.