Hacking Nintendo Switch Banning Hub & Warning

[Freezerbomb]

So, in the light of the recent SXOS SD Emunand development, what do NOT YET BANNED people like @Aniblaze , @datnodude , @LucioDragon , @Ch0pst1x and @Elliott1986 reckon they do now? Continue with safe XCI gaming or update to SD Emunand for some expanded features? I just went back a couple of pages to gather some peeps who have been using SXOS with the least possible tinkering: Absolute clean sysnand, only using XCIs, never been online, no layerdfs, no devmenu, no installed NSP:s, no homebrew... What are your thoughts? I am quite satisfied with this method myself, especially when there has been development in the area of nsp>xci conversion and repacking xci+updates+dlc. But I do eventually want to expand the homebrew area with emulation and the like, so SD sysnand sounds interesting. I'm gonna hold on for some bit however, to learn from the experience of others.

Use SD emunand. Nintendo will eventually add telemetry that detects XCI usage, homebrew. SD emunand + Stealth mode + Clean SD card on OFW should be 100% safe. BTW I'm also still not banned.

 

[icegold]

So, in the light of the recent SXOS SD Emunand development, what do NOT YET BANNED people like @Aniblaze , @datnodude , @LucioDragon , @Ch0pst1x and @Elliott1986 reckon they do now? Continue with safe XCI gaming or update to SD Emunand for some expanded features? I just went back a couple of pages to gather some peeps who have been using SXOS with the least possible tinkering: Absolute clean sysnand, only using XCIs, never been online, no layerdfs, no devmenu, no installed NSP:s, no homebrew... What are your thoughts? I am quite satisfied with this method myself, especially when there has been development in the area of nsp>xci conversion and repacking xci+updates+dlc. But I do eventually want to expand the homebrew area with emulation and the like, so SD sysnand sounds interesting. I'm gonna hold on for some bit however, to learn from the experience of others.

seems you have the same approach I'm planning, currently waiting on delivery of SX Pro to begin. I also plan to do everything through the EMunand.
How have you been updating .xci's up until now, when required?

thanks

 

[Mrperson0]

Can you get banned for simply using homebrew (save backups), and not playing .xci or .nsp games?

 

[Draxzelex]

Can you get banned for simply using homebrew (save backups), and not playing .xci or .nsp games?

Yes, multiple people were already banned for doing so as denoted with (Homebrew) next to their names. You can and will get banned for hacking your console, regardless if you pirate, use CFW, homebrew, etc.

 

[Mrperson0]

Yes, multiple people were already banned for doing so as denoted with (Homebrew) next to their names. You can and will get banned for hacking your console, regardless if you pirate, use CFW, homebrew, etc.

RIP, thanks for the swift reply and info.

 

[hayato_ama]

Can you use the eShop on the Switch? Yes
If you cannot access the eShop, when was the last time/date you were able to? N/A
Did you restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? No
Do you get the error code 2181-4008 trying to update your games? No
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? No
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Yes
SX OS used? No
Did you make an SX OS EmuNAND with a clean hack-free NAND then stay offline with it? No
Trimmed .XCI? No
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? N/A
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? No
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? No
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? N/A
What do you use Non-SX OS LayeredFS for? Modding
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-SX OS LayeredFS Inject? Yes
Played online w/ Non-SX OS Layered FS Injects? Yes
Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? N/A
Used DevMenu? No
Installed any .NSP? No
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? N/A
Did you play any .NSP installed online? N/A
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? N/A
Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? N/A
Did you ever use ReiNX? No
Homebrew/non-SX CFW Used? Atmosphere
Connect to Internet with homebrew/non-SX OS CFW? Yes
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? Yes
AutoRCM? Hekate
Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? Yes
Did you install the exFAT update offline? No
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? Yes
Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? I am not sure about this one. This file does not exist in my sd card but I think Atmosphere has its own pm which disables eclct.
Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? Yes
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? N/A
Wi-Fi settings deleted in CFW? No
Console/Account Region(s): The Americas
What device(s) do you use to send payloads with? laptop + fusee-launcher
Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? No
If Banned, provide proof (video preferred) N/A

Additional Comments
I have been using Atmosphere exclusively since 0.7.0 while remain online without blocking any Nintendo servers. My console is not banned (for now) and most online functions work (eshop, system update). No NSO subscription so I cannot test online play.
I use homebrew mostly for game save backups and texture modding. All my games are obtained legally.
I assume for now Nintendo does not care if you don't pirate games?

Cannot post image links but if interested visit my imgur album which contains a picture of Your system is up to date. screen with Version 6.1.0 (AMS 0.7.5) and a picture of working eshop
imgur dot com slash a slash k7eT5j2

 

[Cyanopsis]

seems you have the same approach I'm planning, currently waiting on delivery of SX Pro to begin. I also plan to do everything through the EMunand.
How have you been updating .xci's up until now, when required?

thanks

I haven't. Now however, there are tools for combining base game with updates to xci

 

[Jamarillo]

I plan on getting two switch tablets just for that. Please update us if you get banned.

So far no ban. I even got myself the 7 Day Free Online Service and played Online with the NSP Mon. Everything works so far. I guess they can't Ban someone for receiving a "Legal" Mon via Trade (Hacked by PKHex or NSP) as long your Switch is Hax Free. Because there is no guarantee your Trade Partner is using legal Mons, legal copies of the Game or a Hax Free Switch. I'll update if anything happens though.

 

[Digitalcat]

Like to point out once again, that I'm still not banned, also you deleted me off the doc, how dare you lad, you were my companion, after all we went through! q.q

 

[Draxzelex]

Like to point out once again, that I'm still not banned, also you deleted me off the doc, how dare you lad, you were my companion, after all we went through! q.q

I just checked and you're still there Line 332

 

[Digitalcat]

I just checked and you're still there Line 332

Hush now

 

[Disharmony16]

Can you use the eShop on the Switch? No
If you cannot access the eShop, when was the last time/date you were able to? Today
Did you restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? No
Do you get the error code 2181-4008 trying to update your games? dunno
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? Yes
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Yes
SX OS used? No
Did you make an SX OS EmuNAND with a clean hack-free NAND then stay offline with it? No
Trimmed .XCI? No
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? No
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? No
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? No
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? N/A
What do you use Non-SX OS LayeredFS for? Rajnx
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-SX OS LayeredFS Inject? No
Played online w/ Non-SX OS Layered FS Injects? No
Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? no
Used DevMenu? No
Installed any .NSP? Yes
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? No
Did you play any .NSP installed online? No
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? No
Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? No
Did you ever use ReiNX? Yes
Homebrew/non-SX CFW Used? Atmosphere, Reinx and Rajnx
Connect to Internet with homebrew/non-SX OS CFW? No
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? No
AutoRCM? No
Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? No
Did you install the exFAT update offline? No
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? Yes
Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? I am not sure about this one. This file does not exist in my sd card but I think Atmosphere has its own pm which disables eclct.
Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? Yes
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? 6.1.0
Wi-Fi settings deleted in CFW? No
Console/Account Region(s): The Americas
What device(s) do you use to send payloads with? laptop + TegraRCM
Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? No
If Banned, provide proof (video preferred) N/A

Additional Comments
Can't resist myself to not connect online never anymore, so deleted all the cfw on my sd, formated it and formated my switch like 3 times through "format data" and "recovery mode" to be sure there won't be any error logs, so yes if anyone is wondering, fomating your switch and sd card won't help you from the ban and this was insta ban, now that i know that i'm banned i can fuck off myself with the online and play offline forever.

 

[FiveZeroes]

Yes, multiple people were already banned for doing so as denoted with (Homebrew) next to their names. You can and will get banned for hacking your console, regardless if you pirate, use CFW, homebrew, etc.

To add a personal anecdote to the cautionary tale, just bought 2nd Switch after first got banned, ran ReiNX once and used it to copy a save of Splatoon 2 to the new console, and didn't touch anything unofficial beyond that. Just received my ban. only lasted 4 days in total. RIP.

 

[Freezerbomb]

To add a personal anecdote to the cautionary tale, just bought 2nd Switch after first got banned, ran ReiNX once and used it to copy a save of Splatoon 2 to the new console, and didn't touch anything unofficial beyond that. Just received my ban. only lasted 4 days in total. RIP.

It seems likely that Nintendo would add some sort of save tampering detection for online games.

 

[JeepX87]

@Draxzelex

I found Switch with 3.0.2 for sale and if I access to homebrew to import my old saves and use clear logs, so remove homebrew and clean the SD, before update to latest firmware so I will be fine with no ban?

The detection about homebrew uses didn't start until after 5.0 or 6.0, I think so.

 

[Draxzelex]

@Draxzelex

I found Switch with 3.0.2 for sale and if I access to homebrew to import my old saves and use clear logs, so remove homebrew and clean the SD, before update to latest firmware so I will be fine with no ban?

The detection about homebrew uses didn't start until after 5.0 or 6.0, I think so.

First, clearing error logs can flag you for a ban. Second, without a clean NAND backup, you can't remove traces of CFW/homebrew. And third, while the detection doesn't start until the later firmwares, if you update the console to the latest firmware, then you risk it getting banned anyways.

 

[FiveZeroes]

It seems likely that Nintendo would add some sort of save tampering detection for online games.

You'd really think so, but Splatoon has known issues with hackers, and my save was legitimate, taken from a Switch that I had played online with before getting banned, so it should have just looked like I hadn't played for a while and then came back online with the same save again.

 

[JeepX87]

First, clearing error logs can flag you for a ban. Second, without a clean NAND backup, you can't remove traces of CFW/homebrew. And third, while the detection doesn't start until the later firmwares, if you update the console to the latest firmware, then you risk it getting banned anyways.

It seems like not make any sense to me and most homebrew bans only used access to online (WiFi setting enabled) and eShop simultaneously that wasn’t case for me when I used strictly offline, also I cleared the logs before go to online as you said that clear the logs are dangerous if went online with hack at same time until I unlinked and sold my Switch without any ancknowledge about ban and Nintendo told me that many people tried to unlink had banned Switch. I spent all night to check the ban reports.

I said that homebrew will be used in 3.0.2 to import saves only and remove afterwards, so no hacks will be continued after upgrade to 6.0. Restore clean NAND removes any saves that import?

What about use creport instead of clear logs?

 

[V-Temp]

You'd really think so, but Splatoon has known issues with hackers, and my save was legitimate, taken from a Switch that I had played online with before getting banned, so it should have just looked like I hadn't played for a while and then came back online with the same save again.

You can't transfer Splatoon saves, they'll flag you immediately. Doesn't matter if its legit, its not from that console and it flags.

 

[FiveZeroes]

You can't transfer Splatoon saves, they'll flag you immediately. Doesn't matter if its legit, its not from that console and it flags.

Interesting. Good to know for future reference.