Looks like this is it. According to a tweet from SciresM, the latest 3DS firmware update 11.8 has ported the Nintendo Switch's piracy detection systems to the console. This strategy enables Nintendo to perfectly distinguish pirated and legit games going online and has been used before to detect and ban pirates on Switch. This is not something that can be avoided with homebrew. According to SciresM, Nintendo hasn't acted on 3DS pirates yet, but can choose to do so any time in the future.

Be careful, guys.

Looks like 11.8.0 backports the Switch's aauth ideas to 3ds -- network comms now send an encrypted(?) copy of app ticket to the server.

They may not act on it immediately, but like on Switch this lets N perfectly detect pirate accesses vs normal ones, and ban however they like.

— Michael (@SciresM) July 31, 2018

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[Sonic Angel Knight]

So does cheating with homebrew still get people banned even if using legit games?

 

[jimmyj]

so CFW online play is basically over now?

wrll no,but you WILL get banned some dat

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So does cheating with homebrew still get people banned even if using legit games?

I got banned for cheating on mario mart 7 and I had a cart,so that has always been a thing

 

[Sonic Angel Knight]

I got banned for cheating on mario mart 7 and I had a cart,so that has always been a thing

I mean more like save editing, not straight up "Go online using cheats in plain sight of other witnesses"

 

[jimmyj]

I mean more like save editing, not straight up "Go online using cheats in plain sight of other witnesses"

then I'm not sure, I don't think that'll get you banned but if you spawn a high level pokemon or a pokemon that doesn't have legit settings and go online,you could get banned

 

[Oleboy555]

does ctr-httpwn still work if you are on 11.3?

 

[Lacius]

does ctr-httpwn still work if you are on 11.3?

Regardless, using ctr-httpwn or something like it is likely to get a person banned once 11.8 starts being enforced for online play.

 

[jimmyj]

does ctr-httpwn still work if you are on 11.3?

that will likely be the same.

 

[sarkwalvein]

Do 3DS online services even still exist? /s
I guess the sure to come alternative online servers won't care about Nintendo bans.

 

[jimmyj]

Regardless, using ctr-httpwn or something like it is likely to get a person banned once 11.8 starts being enforced for online play.

yes exactly.

 

[supergamer368]

Still not 100% sure what's safe and what isn't...
1. Am I safe on 11.7?
2. Does this apply to pirated stuff or all homebrew stuff ran on your system?
3. There's that incognito mode gm9 script, will that help?
4. Should I set up an emuNAND, if possible?

 

[RHOPKINS13]

Still not 100% sure what's safe and what isn't...
1. Am I safe on 11.7?
Most likely, but eventually Nintendo will required you to be at 11.8 in order to use the eShop and/or online play.
2. Does this apply to pirated stuff or all homebrew stuff ran on your system?
All homebrew should be run through either a game exploit or through Rosalina in Luma3DS. Homebrew CIAs can get you banned.
3. There's that incognito mode gm9 script, will that help?
No, that will help hide CFW but won't do anything about hiding the existence of pirated titles on your 3DS.
4. Should I set up an emuNAND, if possible?
Yes. You can keep all your legit titles on SysNAND, and all your pirated titles on EmuNAND. Be sure to keep your wifi settings off while in EmuNAND. You will have to "unlink" your NANDs.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

This system complies with part 15 of the FCC rules and RSS Standards of Industry Canada.
Operation is subject to the following two conditions:
(1) This device may not cause harmful interference,
and (2) this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesirable operation.




This was taken from the back of my New 3DS XL with its back off. How very interesting you'd say that, Nintendo.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

This system complies with part 15 of the FCC rules and RSS Standards of Industry Canada.
Operation is subject to the following two conditions:
(1) This device may not cause harmful interference,
and (2) this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesirable operation.




This was taken from the back of my New 3DS XL with its back off. How very interesting you'd say that, Nintendo.

Given phrasing I assume that's referring to radio/electronic interference

 

[supergamer368]

@RHOPKINS13
Alright, so i don’t have any pirated titles, just homebrew, if that makes any difference (probably not). How would I set up emuNAND? I have no idea.

 

[Viri]

It's okay, I haven't touched my 3DS since last Winter. And when I did use the online, I only played Animal Crossing once online with a friend, and randomly Wonder Shared hacked in shiny legendaries for fun. I can live without both. I didn't even shut off my wifi during the ban waves, because, eh?

 

[Solitario]

I have not played online since 2016 in 3ds...

 

[thekarter104]

I'm still on 11.6. Which games need 11.7?

 

[HaloBenish]

I have a un-modded non-xl new 3ds with my nnid on it and a ton of legit digital games (Canadian unit, black, ambassador certificate legit with the rare ambassador gba games on it). That same nnid id is also on my wii u and has a ton of legit digital games. I am 99% sure that my nnid is also on one of my modded new 3ds xls with some cartridge backups I don't have on my nnid digitally. That nnid is also tied to my switch with a ton of legit digital games. If Nintendo bans me for having cartridge backups on a ds without them in my nnid digitally am I going to be fucked out of thousands of dollars of legit game purchases on my unmodded systems? If Nintendo bans just my modded 3ds's from online I won't really care as I don't see them running those servers much past holiday 2019.

 

[Deleted User]

We should just patch NIM to not even send those 2 headers and see how long it lasts.

I have a un-modded non-xl new 3ds with my nnid on it and a ton of legit digital games (Canadian unit, black, ambassador certificate legit with the rare ambassador gba games on it). That same nnid id is also on my wii u and has a ton of legit digital games. I am 99% sure that my nnid is also on one of my modded new 3ds xls with some cartridge backups I don't have on my nnid digitally. That nnid is also tied to my switch with a ton of legit digital games. If Nintendo bans me for having cartridge backups on a ds without them in my nnid digitally am I going to be fucked out of thousands of dollars of legit game purchases on my unmodded systems? If Nintendo bans just my modded 3ds's from online I won't really care as I don't see them running those servers much past holiday 2019.

This is NOT a backport of the ENTIRE switch ban system. It only checks when you are downloading a game if THAT ONE GAME is legit (so it breaks freeshop) but it doesn't check already installed games

@RHOPKINS13
Alright, so i don’t have any pirated titles, just homebrew, if that makes any difference (probably not). How would I set up emuNAND? I have no idea.

It does make a difference, this is specifically checking if you have pirated eshop games. it doesn't even care about homebrew

 

[supergamer368]

We should just patch NIM to not even send those 2 headers and see how long it lasts.


This is NOT a backport of the ENTIRE switch ban system. It only checks when you are downloading a game if THAT ONE GAME is legit (so it breaks freeshop) but it doesn't check already installed games


It does make a difference, this is specifically checking if you have pirated eshop games. it doesn't even care about homebrew

I just want to be 100% safe and sure... The homebrew titles are .cias installed on my home menu, it that still ok?