Homebrew Suggestion Fuze Studio Emulators

[jt_1258]

@Clydefrosch @tunip3
still, try it out on a computer or tablet, you can adjust the screen sizes however you wish, and you can use a mouse but on the switch, if you really wanted touch controls then maybe have a cursor to click like with how menus worked on wii games, and just click whichever of the l or r buttons that is't bound to a button to register werever it's looking as a touch, though I would prefer to play in handheld mode for touchscreen personally, I play ds games on my tablet alot so I'm used to it

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I could see Nintendo offering DS games either by using one on top of the other or side by side.

When docked I could see them using some Android style touch emulator where you using the analogue stick.

or a wii style cursor that you just press zl or zr(assuming the ds LR buttons are mapped to normal LR on the controller) to register as a touch wherever your cursor is at, and you can see world of goo as an example as to there being on screen cursors

 

[Jayro]

Here's a thought, make the DS emulator so it uses the Switch screen 90 degrees (vertically) for DS games. *gasp*

 

[BlastedGuy9905]

people do remember. its just that wii u had a screen in your hand and one on the tv which was easily the best solution, but not available here.
the other screen modes were very awkward. and without a touchscreen in your hand, many games become unplayable anyway.

though thinking back about it, ds resolution wasnt that high, so you could just have the screens like they should be, albeit looking super small

The Switch has a touchscreen. Sigh. Well, I guess not if you are playing in docked mode, maybe they could map the right stick to the touchscreen to have a cursor.

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Here's a thought, make the DS emulator so it uses the Switch screen 90 degrees (vertically) for DS games. *gasp*

I would love that, it would be so cool, I wouldn't even mind having to balance my Switch

 

[Clydefrosch]

The Switch has a touchscreen. Sigh. Well, I guess not if you are playing in docked mode, maybe they could map the right stick to the touchscreen to have a cursor.

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I would love that, it would be so cool, I wouldn't even mind having to balance my Switch

no, stick controlled cursors are terrible and the ds needs a lot of quick tapping and stuff.
the switch has a touchscreen only undocked, but then, the screen would be pretty small with loads of black bars.

also, the turning it 90 degree thing would probably lead to another switch dock for 60 bucks, so be careful what you wish for.

 

[BlastedGuy9905]

no, stick controlled cursors are terrible and the ds needs a lot of quick tapping and stuff.
the switch has a touchscreen only undocked, but then, the screen would be pretty small with loads of black bars.

also, the turning it 90 degree thing would probably lead to another switch dock for 60 bucks, so be careful what you wish for.

Another Switch dock? TF you talking about?! Turning it 90 degrees would only work in handheld mode...
Oh yeah, DS doesn't need quick tapping at all. I played more than 30 games, none of them even required quick tapping.
My opinion: Either use the right joystick, or make Nintendo release a controller that has a touchscreen.

 

[MikeDX]

I was part of the team that produced fuze basic for the pi, linux and other platforms (i even ported it to android).

At some point in the future ill probably be involved in the compiler/runtime for fuze studio and can tell you already that basic emulators will absolutely be possible.

Sadly i don't know a lot at the moment but i will try to keep you guys in the loop

 

[BlastedGuy9905]

Also, black bars wouldn't be a problem in handheld mode. I just tested it, the DSi XL's screen is almost exactly half of the Switch's.

 

[Selver]

... make the DS emulator ... (vertically) for DS ...

... Turning it 90 degrees would only work in handheld mode ... or make Nintendo release a controller that has a touchscreen.

... DSi XL's screen is almost exactly half of the Switch's ...

The Nintendo Switch has resolutions of 1280×720 (undocked) or 1920x1080 (docked). Here's some scaling factors that could be used for each of Nintendo's handheld console families. As you can see, 90 degree rotation doesn't benefit most undocked modes, with possible exception of the original DS series....

Spoiler: GameBoy (GB), GB Pocket, GB Light, GB Color

Native @ 160 x 144
Docked @ 7.5x scaling == 1200 x 1080
Docked @ 7x scaling == 1120 x 1008
Undocked @ 5x scaling == 800 x 720 (landscape)

Spoiler: GameBoy Advance (GBA), GBA SP, GBA SP+, GB Micro

Native @ 240 x 160
Docked @ 6.75x scaling == 1620 x 1080
Docked @ 6x scaling == 1440 x 960
Undocked @ 4.5x scaling == 1080 x 720 (landscape)
Undocked @ 4x scaling == 960 x 640 (landscape)

Spoiler: DS, DS Lite, DSi, DSi XL

Native @ 256 x 192 (x2) == 256 x 384 (stacked), 512 x 192 (Side-by-Side)
Docked @ 3.75 == 1920 x 720 (Side-by-Side)
Docked @ 2.8125 == 720 x 1080 (stacked)
Undocked @ 2.8125 == 720 x 1080 (stacked, portrait)
Docked @ 3 == 1536 x 576 (Side-by-Side)
Docked @ 2 == 512 x 768 (stacked)
Undocked @ 2 == 512 x 768 (stacked, portrait)

Spoiler: 3DS, 3DS XL, New 3DS, New 3DS XL, 2DS, 2DS XL

Native @ 400x240 + 320x240 touchscreen (treat as 400x480 stacked)
Docked @ 2.25 == 900 x 1080 (stacked)
Docked @ 2 == 800 x 960 (stacked)
Docked @ 2 == 1440 x 480 (Side-by-Side, landscape)
Undocked @ 1.5 == 600 x 720 (stacked, landscape)

 

[jt_1258]

The Nintendo Switch has resolutions of 1280×720 (undocked) or 1920x1080 (docked). Here's some scaling factors that could be used for each of Nintendo's handheld console families. As you can see, only the DS series benefits from 90 degree rotation for undocked mode (if you want to scale at integer multiples).

Spoiler: GameBoy (GB), GB Pocket, GB Light, GB Color

Native @ 160 x 144
Docked @ 7.5x scaling == 1200 x 1080
Docked @ 7x scaling == 1120 x 1008
Undocked @ 5x scaling == 800 x 720 (landscape)

Spoiler: GameBoy Advance (GBA), GBA SP, GBA SP+, GB Micro

Native @ 240 x 160
Docked @ 6.75x scaling == 1620 x 1080
Docked @ 6x scaling == 1440 x 960
Undocked @ 4.5x scaling == 1080 x 720 (landscape)
Undocked @ 4x scaling == 960 x 640 (landscape)

Spoiler: DS, DS Lite, DSi, DSi XL

Native @ 256 x 192 (x2) == 256 x 384
Docked @ 2.8125 == 720 x 1080
Docked @ 2 == 512 x 768
Undocked @ 1.875 == 512 x 768 (landscape)
Undocked @ 2.8125 == 720 x 1080 (portrait)
Undocked @ 2 == 512 x 768 (portrait)

Spoiler: 3DS, 3DS XL, New 3DS, New 3DS XL, 2DS, 2DS XL

Native @ 400x240 + 320x240 touchscreen (treat as 400x480)
Docked @ 2.25 == 900 x 1080
Docked @ 2 == 800 x 960
Undocked @ 1.5 == 600 x 720 (landscape)
Undocked @ 1.8 == 720 x 864 (portrait)

unless they ported the games 3ds would not happen but I get adding it just for the sake of rounding it out
though I could see them porting 3ds games when the 3ds dies but that's highly doubtful as 3ds was successful unlike wii u, it would be nice if they added the ability to bind some buttons to changing screen settings on ds games, 2 buttons for adjust back and forth the size of each screen(see with crystal chronicles on wii with how they did that, it was a ds game), and also having another button for either cycling through view modes of 1 screen or the other and double screen or multiple buttons for each going to a preset, though all these buttons being optional, and hopefully they allow you to use the sl and sr buttons(the l an r of the joy con in single joy con mode) to have some controls bound to when using them in vc

 

[BlastedGuy9905]

The Nintendo Switch has resolutions of 1280×720 (undocked) or 1920x1080 (docked). Here's some scaling factors that could be used for each of Nintendo's handheld console families. As you can see, only the DS series benefits from 90 degree rotation for undocked mode (if you want to scale at integer multiples).

Spoiler: GameBoy (GB), GB Pocket, GB Light, GB Color

Native @ 160 x 144
Docked @ 7.5x scaling == 1200 x 1080
Docked @ 7x scaling == 1120 x 1008
Undocked @ 5x scaling == 800 x 720 (landscape)

Spoiler: GameBoy Advance (GBA), GBA SP, GBA SP+, GB Micro

Native @ 240 x 160
Docked @ 6.75x scaling == 1620 x 1080
Docked @ 6x scaling == 1440 x 960
Undocked @ 4.5x scaling == 1080 x 720 (landscape)
Undocked @ 4x scaling == 960 x 640 (landscape)

Spoiler: DS, DS Lite, DSi, DSi XL

Native @ 256 x 192 (x2) == 256 x 384
Docked @ 2.8125 == 720 x 1080
Docked @ 2 == 512 x 768
Undocked @ 1.875 == 512 x 768 (landscape)
Undocked @ 2.8125 == 720 x 1080 (portrait)
Undocked @ 2 == 512 x 768 (portrait)

Spoiler: 3DS, 3DS XL, New 3DS, New 3DS XL, 2DS, 2DS XL

Native @ 400x240 + 320x240 touchscreen (treat as 400x480)
Docked @ 2.25 == 900 x 1080
Docked @ 2 == 800 x 960
Undocked @ 1.5 == 600 x 720 (landscape)
Undocked @ 1.8 == 720 x 864 (portrait)

Aaaaand that was exactly what I was saying, after all. I said that putting the Switch vertically would look much better, but I really hope that touchpad controller comes out :3

 

[jt_1258]

Aaaaand that was exactly what I was saying, after all. I said that putting the Switch vertically would look much better, but I really hope that touchpad controller comes out :3

just gona drop this shit here
the wii u game pad before the wii u
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDraw_GameTablet

 

[BlastedGuy9905]

just gona drop this shit here
the wii u game pad before the wii u
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDraw_GameTablet

I hope someone will hax0r the Switch so it would recognize the Wii U pad lol

 

[jt_1258]

I hope someone will hax0r the Switch so it would recognize the Wii U pad lol

proccesing power is needed to stream to the tablet though

 

[BlastedGuy9905]

proccesing power is needed to stream to the tablet though

I'm sure that DS emulation won't get the CPU nor GPU to 100%.

 

[jt_1258]

I'm sure that DS emulation won't get the CPU nor GPU to 100%.

ya, but then you got the children screaming why can't we have wii u like stuff in our other games

 

[BlastedGuy9905]

ya, but then you got the children screaming why can't we have wii u like stuff in our other games

Ya, then you got the "ignore", "mute" and "unwatch" button. Would you rather play and see kids complaining or not play at all?