Homebrew SigHax Updates and Discussion Thread

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I think it is possible to do that now, but you need to have the xorpads for that 3ds' nand. Mostly the firm0 and firm1 xorpads.
Well not really, you just need to know what FIRM was installed at the time of the brick, and even if you don't, you could just systematically go through each firm until you find the right one

The only 2 bricks sighax would not be able to fix is, a 3ds with firm0/1 both corrupted with a unknown firm that was not stock (like if the system crashed mid FIRM write) or a system with no original nand backup that has had the FIRM partitions overwrote I.e if someone used decrypt9 and restored a nand backup from a different console and made no backup prior to doing that

.....well and all the other types of hardware brick, I.e broken components or mcu bricks

But yeah my statement was in regards to people who already have a9lh, people who are bricked, or people on 11.4 are a different matter
 

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I think it is possible to do that now, but you need to have the xorpads for that 3ds' nand. Mostly the firm0 and firm1 xorpads.

That's the problem some people have no xorpad or otp need a way to modify the bootloader to load a payload then ctr transfer to fix I've tried hex editing firms. Just need a way to get the system to either load safe mode or some sort of firm patcher
 
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So this is a large thread, a lot to look through.

I just heard about this, and people keep saying things like "when sighax is released". But the OP seems to act like sighax is already working.

With a N3DSXL on 11.4 with A9LH and Luma 7.0, what can this do for me and what's the current status?
 

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So this is a large thread, a lot to look through.

I just heard about this, and people keep saying things like "when sighax is released". But the OP seems to act like sighax is already working.

With a N3DSXL on 11.4 with A9LH and Luma 7.0, what can this do for me and what's the current status?

Some dev already got sighax, but it is not publically available because of the Boot9 file. We have a wait for a public release, but it should come soon :)
 

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Some dev already got sighax, but it is not publically available because of the Boot9 file. We have a wait for a public release, but it should come soon :)
Ok, so the status question is answered.

What does it do for 3DSes that already have A9LH+Luma?
 

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Ok, so the status question is answered.

What does it do for 3DSes that already have A9LH+Luma?

It is unpatchable, so Tendo can't delete it (even without Luma protection because it is a material exploit)
And we can create real CFW (for exemple, an android based CFW) and other things not exceptional but neat :)
 
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It is unpatchable, so Tendo can't delete it (even without Luma protection because it is a material exploit)
And we can create real CFW (for exemple, an android based CFW) and other things not exceptional but neat :)
A9LH has the ability to run "real CFW" it's just no one has made one yet.

Basically the only real difference with SigHax is we can boot a bit quicker(not much though) over A9LH, we won't need to downgrade to 2.1 in order to obtain the OTP.bin, and it can't be patched without a hardware revision. SigHax is just the ultimate primary entry point to run CFW, it's not going to be better than A9LH in terms of what we can run/install on our consoles.

I'm sure there's more advantages I haven't mentioned over A9LH but as far as having "real CFW" goes we could already have that if someone wanted to make one.
 

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I'm sure there's more advantages I haven't mentioned over A9LH but as far as having "real CFW" goes we could already have that if someone wanted to make one.
For the thousandth time, this.

There's already an experimental port of Linux to the 3DS. I'm not sure if it actually uses the ARM11, but it runs completely independent of the 3DS operating system.
 

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A9LH has the ability to run "real CFW" it's just no one has made one yet.

Basically the only real difference with SigHax is we can boot a bit quicker(not much though) over A9LH, we won't need to downgrade to 2.1 in order to obtain the OTP.bin, and it can't be patched without a hardware revision. SigHax is just the ultimate primary entry point to run CFW, it's not going to be better than A9LH in terms of what we can run/install on our consoles.

I'm sure there's more advantages I haven't mentioned over A9LH but as far as having "real CFW" goes we could already have that if someone wanted to make one.
So wait... A9LH IS patchable if Nintendo were smart and decided to bypass the Luma firm0/firm1 protection somehow? I'm not completely sure if A9LH partially relies on software based vulnerabilities besides the hardware vulns.
 
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So wait... A9LH IS patchable if Nintendo were smart and decided to bypass the Luma firm0/firm1 protection somehow? I'm not completely sure if A9LH partially relies on software based vulnerabilities besides the hardware vulns.
Haven't you heard about 11.3 stripping a9lh when people booted their Brickway on sysNAND? It's already there.
 

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yeah nintendo already tries to patch installed a9lh. they just haven't been able to beat the firm protection stopping it. :) The instant they figure that out, expect a new update.

That said, if it were possible to do it, i think they would have already got it with 11.4... Could some technical person chime in and say if it's possible to override it even in theory?
 

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yeah nintendo already tries to patch installed a9lh. they just haven't been able to beat the firm protection stopping it. :) The instant they figure that out, expect a new update.

That said, if it were possible to do it, i think they would have already got it with 11.4... Could some technical person chime in and say if it's possible to override it even in theory?
They could probably do it technically. Just the same way we hack 3DS. IF they were to do it in the US, it would be a violation of CFAA. They would have a class action lawsuit on their hands. Might or might not since the user is in violation of DMCA as well. So that's probably why they won't actively attack it. That and the bad PR. It'll be like United.
 

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Haven't you heard about 11.3 stripping a9lh when people booted their Brickway on sysNAND? It's already there.
brickway? As in Gateway sysNAND? I know that won't protect your firm0/firm1 partitions like Luma3DS does.

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They could probably do it technically. Just the same way we hack 3DS. IF they were to do it in the US, it would be a violation of CFAA. They would have a class action lawsuit on their hands. Might or might not since the user is in violation of DMCA as well. So that's probably why they won't actively attack it. That and the bad PR. It'll be like United.
User is in violation of DMCA cuz of CFW itself being illegal? Sorry. Just trying to get all this together.
 

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brickway? As in Gateway sysNAND? I know that won't protect your firm0/firm1 partitions like Luma3DS does.

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User is in violation of DMCA cuz of CFW itself being illegal? Sorry. Just trying to get all this together.
Yes. Brickway/Gatewait/Gateway.

We have to break the security of the 3DS to hack it. That is a violation of DMCA. Also we're using Nintendo copyrighted material. That's why some of the files in the Guide are torrents.
 

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Yes. Brickway/Gatewait/Gateway.

We have to break the security of the 3DS to hack it. That is a violation of DMCA. Also we're using Nintendo copyrighted material. That's why some of the files in the Guide are torrents.
Okay. That makes more sense. Thx. :) Would I need to worry about Nintendo overriding Luma's firm protection in a future system update since they MAY be able to do that without a class action lawsuit on their hands? I just don't want to one day find that happening to my 3ds system or have it happen to others when they think that it is safe to update using Luma, but were mistaken.
 

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They are already trying. if they come up with a working method, it will brick nothing, and will probably be legal.

If nintendo bricks a console with their attempt, it will be class action for sure. so they will not put it in until they are SURE.

again anyone who would actually know the truth feel free to chime in.
 

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Okay. That makes more sense. Thx. :) Would I need to worry about Nintendo overriding Luma's firm protection in a future system update since they MAY be able to do that without a class action lawsuit on their hands? I just don't want to one day find that happening to my 3ds system or have it happen to others when they think that it is safe to update using Luma, but were mistaken.
Welcome. It's most likely safe. But they bricked those Korean WiiU. So they might make a mistake and do it, but it's probably extremely unlikely.
 

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Welcome. It's most likely safe. But they bricked those Korean WiiU. So they might make a mistake and do it, but it's probably extremely unlikely.
Okay. I still look out for the odds taking place of that happening tho. I am one of those kinds of people who worry a lot and think the worst case scenarios will happen almost all the time. :/
 

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