Hacking WIP PegaSwitch - A webkit exploit with support for JOP and function calling

[Bladexdsl]

you were all wrong from the start the switch wasn't running android at all...it was running IOS

 

[linuxares]

you were all wrong from the start the switch wasn't running android at all...it was running IOS

Ha jokes on you! It's actually Symbian!

 

[Noctosphere]

shame on all of you who wants the switch to be hacked asap
and shame on the op for releasing an exploit

do you realise the moment a console is hacked, company are less attracted by it for making game for it. if you really want the switch to be abandonned by third party, then go ahead, support hacker and press them to release exploit asap

personally, if i were a hacker, i wouldnt release any exploit before about a year before the end of the gen, knowing a AAA game usually require more than a year to produce, i doubt third party company will abandon their project. so if you want a maximum amount of game available for the switch, please, dont release exploit so soon
thanks

 

[Deleted User]

shame on all of you who wants the switch to be hacked asap
and shame on the op for releasing an exploit

do you realise the moment a console is hacked, company are less attracted by it for making game for it. if you really want the switch to be abandonned by third party, then go ahead, support hacker and press them to release exploit asap

personally, if i were a hacker, i wouldnt release any exploit before about a year before the end of the gen, knowing a AAA game usually require more than a year to produce, i doubt third party company will abandon their project. so if you want a maximum amount of game available for the switch, please, dont release exploit so soon
thanks

You know it wont allow us to pirate in the few years to come,right? Now it doesnt even allow homebrew and we are yet to hear of anybody succesfully dumping a rom...

 

[Noctosphere]

You know it wont allow us to pirate in the few years to come,right? Now it doesnt even allow homebrew and we are yet to hear of anybody succesfully dumping a rom...

it doesntmatter, they found an exploit and announced it publicly, it already makes the console less attractive to companies.
it doesnt matter what this exploit allows or doesnt allow us to do. companies arent dumb, if we found an exploit that early, we will surely find more and more over the years to come. companies know that and are always imagining the worse scenario

 

[spiderman1216]

it doesntmatter, they found an exploit and announced it publicly, it already makes the console less attractive to companies.
it doesnt matter what this exploit allows or doesnt allow us to do. companies arent dumb, if we found an exploit that early, we will surely find more and more over the years to come. companies know that and are always imagining the worse scenario

Funny because developers were still making new games for the 3DS, over the Vita no burh piracy doesn't detract developers, it's sales if the platform sells developers will support it.

 

[Deleted User]

it doesntmatter, they found an exploit and announced it publicly, it already makes the console less attractive to companies.
it doesnt matter what this exploit allows or doesnt allow us to do. companies arent dumb, if we found an exploit that early, we will surely find more and more over the years to come. companies know that and are always imagining the worse scenario

Man... look, the psp was pretty succesful and they found way to run roms on the first fw. Ds got hacked in the first few years and got lots of support til its death. 3ds, wii both got hacked within less then 3 years from release, both were really succesfull, nowdays 3ds still gets love from devs...

 

[Noctosphere]

Funny because developers were still making new games for the 3DS, over the Vita no burh piracy doesn't detract developers, it's sales if the platform sells developers will support it.

maybe you havent realised, but there isnt much third party games released on 3ds now, if youve seen a lot being released in the past year, its either because they were already in developpement, or they are independant developer.
piracy does make a console less attractive to developer, its a fact.
i ask you, if you were about to make a game, you have two choice of console to make it for
the first hasnt any exploit released yet publicly
the second has an exploit like this one released. you know the console has already begun being exploited even if dumped games cannot be played yet, but you dont know when it will be possible. a year? two years? three years?
you know the game will take 2.5 years to produce, and if its released on a hacked or a soon to be hacked console, youll lose about 30% of sales
honnestly, on which console will you release it?

 

[linuxares]

I got to love the numbers you pull out. Piracy have never killed a system. If piracy was a big issue there would be no pc games at all. Yet its one of, if not the most profitable market.

 

[Noctosphere]

You're an idiot, it's a fact so where is your evidence. Answer just these next questions.

The 3DS was hacked before pokemon sun/moon was released, what are the sales numbers of genuine pokemon sun/moon.

If a company looses 30% of sales by releasing on a hacked console, what % of sales do they loose by not releasing on that console at all.

if 3DS wasnt hacked, pokemon sumo sales would have been way higher

as for the %, i simply said a random number to make my point.

as for your second question, they wouldnt lose a penny if they dont release on a hacked console since they didnt invested a penny on their game to be compatible with it

and anyway, if you read what i said, i said if you had choice between making 100M$ or 70M$, which one would you choose?

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I got to love the numbers you pull out. Piracy have never killed a system. If piracy was a big issue there would be no pc games at all. Yet its one of, if not the most profitable market.

pc games is another thing, most AAA games have option that require you to buy the game, mostly online gaming. so on pc, even if you pirate a game, you dont always get the full game

 

[smileyhead]

We do not, in any form, support piracy; our hacks allow for running and developing homebrew software applications, and will not enable you to circumvent protections to permit piracy or the playing of illegitimately-obtained software.

We totally do. Most of us, in fact. Why do you think there are piracy tutorials up on this site?

 

[Risingdawn]

if 3DS wasnt hacked, pokemon sumo sales would have been way higher

as for the %, i simply said a random number to make my point.

as for your second question, they wouldnt lose a penny if they dont release on a hacked console since they didnt invested a penny on their game to be compatible with it

and anyway, if you read what i said, i said if you had choice between making 100M$ or 70M$, which one would you choose?

Pokemon sun and moon where one of nintendos fastest ever selling games selling over 4 million copies in the first couple of weeks, they where also the highest pre ordered Nintendo games in history. On a console already hacked.

Why would I choose between 100M$ and 70M$ and not choose 170M$?

 

[Noctosphere]

Pokemon sun and moon where one of nintendos fastest ever selling games selling over 4 million copies in the first couple of weeks, they where also the highest pre ordered Nintendo games in history. On a console already hacked.

Why would I choose between 100M$ and 70M$ and not choose 170M$?

it could have been 4.5 millions if it wasnt hacked...

and i told you to choose, not to take both

 

[Traiver]

I can't get sudowin to work on Windows 10, it tells me that sudowin is offline when I try to start a DNS server...

Welp I'll try it later again...

 

[loolou78]

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[Risingdawn]

it could have been 4.5 millions if it wasnt hacked...

and i told you to choose, not to take both

Okay so let's say it actually could have been 4.5 million not hacked, that's 500k of lost sales yeah, so how many sales would they have lost by not releasing on the hacked console at all?

And why do I have to choose?

 

[spiderman1216]

if 3DS wasnt hacked, pokemon sumo sales would have been way higher

as for the %, i simply said a random number to make my point.

as for your second question, they wouldnt lose a penny if they dont release on a hacked console since they didnt invested a penny on their game to be compatible with it

and anyway, if you read what i said, i said if you had choice between making 100M$ or 70M$, which one would you choose?

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pc games is another thing, most AAA games have option that require you to buy the game, mostly online gaming. so on pc, even if you pirate a game, you dont always get the full game

You have no proof of this, absolutely no proof that Sun and Moon's sales would be way higher, let alone even slightly higher, you can't prove that those that pirate would have bought it in the first place. Sometimes people are only interested in something when they can pirate it. You can't just assume they would have been like aw shit I can't pirate it, well I guess I have to buy it then, that's even assuming they would have bought it brand new in the first place.

Also only a small subset of gamers hack their consoles, hacking and pirating a game for console is a lot more tedious than doing it on PC, consoles are usually about convenience, so most gamers aren't going to be interested in installing ReiNand+A9LH+Luma3DS, dumping their nand, rewriting their nand which could brick their system, so on and so forth. So even if the Nintendo Switch got busted wide open to the point where it's as easy to pirate games on it as the Wii U, the amount of gamers that do it, won't be justified to cause a panic, and flee from the Switch, because let's say 10 million Switches are sold less than 300k people will have a hacked Switch. Thus it won't horribly affect sales to the point where it's unprofitable to port games over to the switch, because let's say all those 300k people were pirates, you still have 9.7 million+ that will buy the game and give you money. Your not going to forsake those people just because of a minority.

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Man... look, the psp was pretty succesful and they found way to run roms on the first fw. Ds got hacked in the first few years and got lots of support til its death. 3ds, wii both got hacked within less then 3 years from release, both were really succesfull, nowdays 3ds still gets love from devs...

Hell look at the Vita that thing sold like a piece of shit, and that didn't get hacked until the system was dead.

 

[Bladexdsl]

 

[the_randomizer]

it doesntmatter, they found an exploit and announced it publicly, it already makes the console less attractive to companies.
it doesnt matter what this exploit allows or doesnt allow us to do. companies arent dumb, if we found an exploit that early, we will surely find more and more over the years to come. companies know that and are always imagining the worse scenario

*Ahem* https://gbatemp.net/threads/piracy-common-myths.344858/

OP states otherwise and has empirical evidence to the contrary. There never has been any instance on piracy or mods ever killing a console.

 

[smileyhead]

*Ahem* https://gbatemp.net/threads/piracy-common-myths.344858/

OP states otherwise and has empirical evidence to the contrary.

Finally!