Hacking Stuck with a o3DS in 11.0.0-33U With A9LH+Luma after Download Play + Gateway

[tazyman2]

o3DS -- started with gateway 3ds, made the transition to install a9lh and luma. Added the Gateway.bin as a boot option so I could still play games from the Gateway card. The last time I saw the Luma SysNAND, it was 10.7 or so.

So this past weekend, I played Zelda: Tri-force Heros in Gateway mode -- initiated Download play so I could play with my little cousins. Then continued onto play some Kirby game they had -- also download play, and then Plants vs. Zombies (DS download play). When I started up the 3DS the next time, it seems like I've lost all entry points -- Hourglass, Luma, Gateway -- I could only boot into sysNAND, as well, it looks like it's updated only to 11.0.0-33U (not the latest 11.x).

I'm curious as to what happened? As well, short of Hardmodding, are there any options to get A9LH+Luma back?

 

[Quantumcat]

o3DS -- started with gateway 3ds, made the transition to install a9lh and luma. Added the Gateway.bin as a boot option so I could still play games from the Gateway card. The last time I saw the Luma SysNAND, it was 10.7 or so.

So this past weekend, I played Zelda: Tri-force Heros in Gateway mode -- initiated Download play so I could play with my little cousins. Then continued onto play some Kirby game they had -- also download play, and then Plants vs. Zombies (DS download play). When I started up the 3DS the next time, it seems like I've lost all entry points -- Hourglass, Luma, Gateway -- I could only boot into sysNAND, as well, it looks like it's updated only to 11.0.0-33U (not the latest 11.x).

I'm curious as to what happened? As well, short of Hardmodding, are there any options to get A9LH+Luma back?

You are very lucky. If you were using an N3DS you would be bricked (O3DS might have a chance at bricking too).

Never ever update in Gateway sysNAND mode. Download play will update your console to the version of the cartridge (and maybe to the update already downloaded).

You will need a hardmod or DSiWare hax to restore your NAND backup.

 

[nechigawara]

You are very lucky. If you were using an N3DS you would be bricked (O3DS might have a chance at bricking too).

Never ever update in Gateway sysNAND mode. Download play will update your console to the version of the cartridge (and maybe to the update already downloaded).

You will need a hardmod or DSiWare hax to restore your NAND backup.

Didn't know Download play also cause the system to update.....

Lately, I see more threads about GW causing problem one after another. Why GW's team doesn't fix this yet?

 

[Quantumcat]

Didn't know Download play also cause the system to update.....

Lately, I see more threads about GW causing problem one after another. Why GW's team doesn't fix this yet?

Who knows. I guess maybe they don't want to do work if it doesn't mean increased sales (it would just make things easier for current owners, probably won't make new people buy it). Or else it hurts their ego to follow the free devs instead of creating new things.

 

[Foxi4]

Is it also possible that the update was downloaded "Off the Air" from the other 3DS'es since you connected to them via Download Play? I vaguely remember that Street/Spotpassing could download an update, but I don't quite remember the details.

 

[nechigawara]

Who knows. I guess maybe they don't want to do work if it doesn't mean increased sales (it would just make things easier for current owners, probably won't make new people buy it). Or else it hurts their ego to follow the free devs instead of creating new things.

Some people decide to keep using it because they're OK with current setting and don't want to change.
Some people feels like they should keep using it to makeing up for the price they paid.

I understand the choice they made, but whenever I saw people get the problem from a flow of GW.
Sometimes they still can recover, sometimes they're just losing the ability to pirate, sometimes they got bricked.
It make me feel pity about them. Why would they have to face a bad situation for the product they paid for?

Well, hoping the OP can find a way to escape this mess.

 

[tazyman2]

Thanks for the explanation! Never knew download play had that fun little feature in there. I'll check out my options and go from there.

 

[metroid maniac]

Things like this are why I recommend injecting sudokuhax to the DS Internet Settings as soon as you have the opportunity to.

 

[Flame]

Things like this are why I recommend injecting sudokuhax to the DS Internet Settings as soon as you have the opportunity to.

may i ask what does that help with?

does it help you downgrading later or stop you from bricking.

just curious.

 

[metroid maniac]

may i ask what does that help with?

does it help you downgrading later or stop you from bricking.

just curious.

You'll be able to restore a hacked NAND backup, even if you update to 11.1 OFW.
It's like a hardmod, except your console must be able to boot for it to work.

 

[Flame]

You'll be able to restore a hacked NAND backup, even if you update to 11.1 OFW.
It's like a hardmod, except your console must be able to boot for it to work.

I have A9LH + Luma cfw should I inject sudokuhax?

on my 3ds everything works fine. should i just stay put.

 

[metroid maniac]

I have A9LH + Luma cfw should I inject sudokuhax?

on my 3ds everything works fine.

I'd say so, just in case you make a mistake like our unfortunate OP.
You just have to copy two files into your sysnand, you can use FBI or Godmode9 or anything. Dunno if an up to date guide has been written utilizing those tools.

 

[Flame]

I'd say so, just in case you make a mistake like our unfortunate OP.
You just have to copy two files into your sysnand, you can use FBI or Godmode9 or anything. Dunno if an up to date guide has been written utilizing those tools.

so any guides or info on how to do this?

 

[metroid maniac]

so any guides or info on how to do this?

Rough guide;

Get your hands on the .nds for sudokuhax, fieldrunners, guitar hero or one of the other dsiware games with exploits. The .cia won't do; however, if you install the .cia then you can navigate to its install directory and get the .app there, which is the same thing.
Get the appropriate. sav exploit.

Go to TWLN:/title/00030005/42383841/content and overwrite the .app file there with your dsiware rom. It needs to have the exact same name, 00000002.app.
Write the save exploit to TWLN:/title/00030005/42383841/data as public.sav

The DS connections option in system settings should now be replaced with the game, and be able to boot the exploit.

Btw a N3DS updated without properly uninstalling a9lh will be a brick. So don't count on this method protecting you from that.

 

[xtheman]

Rough guide;

Get your hands on the .nds for sudokuhax, fieldrunners, guitar hero or one of the other dsiware games with exploits.
Get the appropriate. sav exploit.

Go to TWLN:/title/00030005/42383841/content and overwrite the .app file there with your dsiware rom. It needs to have the exact same name.
Write the save exploit to TWLN:/title/00030005/42383841/data as public.sav

The DS connections option in system settings should now be replaced with the game, and be able to boot the exploit.

This works even after removing a9lh to OFW?

 

[metroid maniac]

This works even after removing a9lh to OFW?

Yes. I used to use it on OFW for reinstalling the MSET exploit way before a9lh was a thing.

 

[xtheman]

Yes. I used to use it on OFW for reinstalling the MSET exploit way before a9lh was a thing.

Looks like I'm installing Sudokuhax then. You can never be to safe. Also do I rename the .nds of sudoku to .app?

 

[Flame]

Rough guide;

Get your hands on the .nds for sudokuhax, fieldrunners, guitar hero or one of the other dsiware games with exploits.
Get the appropriate. sav exploit.

Go to TWLN:/title/00030005/42383841/content and overwrite the .app file there with your dsiware rom. It needs to have the exact same name.
Write the save exploit to TWLN:/title/00030005/42383841/data as public.sav

The DS connections option in system settings should now be replaced with the game, and be able to boot the exploit.

Btw a N3DS updated without properly uninstalling a9lh will be a brick. So don't count on this method protecting you from that.

ive done everything as you told me but i get a white screen once i enter DS connections option in system settings.

 

[metroid maniac]

ive done everything as you told me but i get a white screen once i enter DS connections option in system settings.

What game did you inject? I only have sudoku, with a filesize of 3,376KB and a CRC32 of 7E5EA8C7.
Did you rename it to 00000002.app?
If you're running a CFW, does it support TWL software?

 

[Flame]

What game did you inject? I only have sudoku, with a filesize of 3,376KB and a CRC32 of 7E5EA8C7.
Did you rename it to 00000002.app?
If you're running a CFW, does it support TWL software?

may i ask why do you have the US one dont you need the euro one if you are in UK, like me?