Homebrew Do I must to stay in 11.0 or update ?

[NeTyd0_]

Hi everyone, my 3ds has as firmware 11.0 and I would like to know if i should update my 3ds to 11.1. Also the hardmod or the fieldrunner hax are working on the new firmware ??

PS: I have any hax installed on him

 

[LongTimeLurker]

If you have a9lh you're safe to update, see my signature for what versions each exploit runs on, and the a9lh guide.

 

[NeTyd0_]

thanks

 

[LongTimeLurker]

thanks

No problem, I forgot to mention, the hardmod should always work, regardless of firmware. That's kinda the point .

 

[Swiftloke]

No problem, I forgot to mention, the hardmod should always work, regardless of firmware. That's kinda the point .

Not nessescarily. Updating the OS modules to require the newest NATIVE_FIRM would break hardmod downgrading. Hardmods itself would still work, of course, but downgrading with them wouldn't.

 

[Mikemk]

Not nessescarily. Updating the OS modules to require the newest NATIVE_FIRM would break hardmod downgrading. Hardmods itself would still work, of course, but downgrading with them wouldn't.

Actually false, as the same exploit that lets us change the native firm would let us change any other constant files. Blocking hardmod downgrade requires both randomizing the native firm's location and encrypting it with a different key than the console key

 

[LongTimeLurker]

Not nessescarily. Updating the OS modules to require the newest NATIVE_FIRM would break hardmod downgrading. Hardmods itself would still work, of course, but downgrading with them wouldn't.

Actually false, as the same exploit that lets us change the native firm would let us change any other constant files. Blocking hardmod downgrade requires both randomizing the native firm's location and encrypting it with a different key than the console key

Aren't the OS modules stored on the NAND? So couldn't we just, overwrite everything no matter what? Physically, what's stopping you?

 

[Mikemk]

Physically, what's stopping you?

It's encrypted. The exploit is that there's known data at a constant location on every console, which enables us to figure out part of the key. If the data were randomized and at a random location, hardmod downgrading will be over.

 

[LongTimeLurker]

It's encrypted. The exploit is that there's known data at a constant location on every console, which enables us to figure out part of the key. If the data were randomized and at a random location, hardmod downgrading will be over.

You're not being clear. How would randomizing the data do anything? If the OS is on the NAND, writing a 1:1 copy of an old NAND would work fine, no? Or is there another chip which could be modified in an update? As far as I know, the hardmod doesn't go through any OS at all, it's just writing to the NAND chip, so nothing on the NAND chip could affect it.

 

[The Catboy]

If you are not running a CFW, I wouldn't suggest updating if you are intending to downgrade for a CFW. Currently the only thing 11.1 has introduced is just blocking homebrew entrypoints.
The 3DS is currently on it's EOL, so Nintendo is just going to try and stop homebrew from here on out. I wouldn't really suggest updating until you know things are safe.

 

[Selim873]

From my experience, I impulsively updated to 11.1 knowing I could run Luma and A9LH just fine. I got worried about BootNTR, and even though the 11.1 version is "Home Menu" only, NTR Streaming still worked just fine, so for everything I use, I'm good.