[POLL] Who are/would you vote for United States President?

[Lacius]

Although from a solely policy perspective there is an argument to vote Stein for progressives.

Well, Stein and Clinton are 95% the same, but we've had this discussion already.

 

[RevPokemon]

Well, Stein and Clinton are 95% the same, but we've had this discussion already.

Yes but still the TPP controversy, Iraq vote, Whistle blower issues, and other foreign issues are legitimate as a cause but as you stated we discussed it before (although it was more of Greens vs Democrats than Jill vs Hill but oh well).

 

[Lacius]

Yes but still the TPP controversy, Iraq vote, Whistle blower issues, and other foreign issues are legitimate as a cause but as you stated we discussed it before (although it was more of Greens vs Democrats than Jill vs Hill but oh well).

Clinton has consistently opposed the TPP in its current form.

Edit: I also don't think 5% merits throwing one's vote away and risking a Trump presidency.

 

[RevPokemon]

Clinton has consistently opposed the TPP in its current form.

Edit: I also don't think 5% merits throwing one's vote away and risking a Trump presidency.

Yes but she previously had supported it as secretary of state (although around 12 or so she admitted some issues with it) and just that fact will worry some people (rightfully or not). But it does not bother me as I am voting Libertarian so it can get major party status.

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Edit: I also don't think 5% merits throwing one's vote away and risking a Trump presidency.

depends, If like me you live in a state where one of them (Trump or Clinton) leads by 10% plus in a four way race then it is absolutely fine and really there is no reason not to and just support local politicians in the big two parties

 

[Lacius]

Yes but she previously had supported it as secretary of state (although around 12 or so she admitted some issues with it) and just that fact will worry some people (rightfully or not).

Secretary Clinton never supported the TPP as we know it. She said she hoped it would be the gold standard for trade, and that was before it had been negotiated with its controversial elements. Something like a week after it was negotiated and finalized, she came out against it. This is a non-issue.

I acknowledge your points on whistleblowers and the Iraq War, although Clinton quickly came around on the latter. In summary, the above isn't worth throwing one's vote away to cast a protest vote for Jill Stein, an unelectable troll who has never held high office and resurfaces every four years to feed without any regard for the consequences.

But it does not bother me as I am voting Libertarian so it can get major party status.

That's not even going to come close to happening. It's a throw-away protest vote.

depends, If like me you live in a state where one of them (Trump or Clinton) leads by 10% plus in a four way race then it is absolutely fine and really there is no reason not to and just support local politicians in the big two parties

This is an unfortunate truth about the electoral college, but it doesn't take away from my point.

 

[RevPokemon]

That's not even going to come close to happening. It's a throw-away protest vote.

My bad in explaining it. I do not mean it will be a "major party" in the sense that it will go toe to toe with the GOP or Democrats but I mean it in that if the Libertarian Party gets 5% of the popular vote then they will be semi considered a "major party" in many areas and will get funding as per http://www.fec.gov/press/bkgnd/fund.shtml . What I am speaking of is almost guaranteed since his polling is so good (other than Anderson in 80 all third party candidates have gotten with in 3% or so of the polling) but I am voting for him to get that 5%.

Secretary Clinton never supported the TPP as we know it. She said she hoped it would be the gold standard for trade, and that was before it had been negotiated with its controversial elements. Something like a week after it was negotiated and finalized, she came out against it. This is a non-issue.

I never said she currently supported the newish TPP but I meant she supported the old one (how much it is different we will never know but oh well). Plus even still it will bug some people regardless.

This is an unfortunate truth about the electoral college, but it doesn't take away from my point.

I disagree as unless neither one of them got the required amount to become President it really does not matter who you vote for in many states due to the electoral college.

 

[emigre]

I see Trump winning this poll. Good work on disappointing me again UStemp.

 

[Lacius]

I see Trump winning this poll. Good work on disappointing me again UStemp.

Donald Trump won the last poll, too. And there's a good discussion about why.

 

[emigre]

Donald Trump won the last poll, too. And there's a good discussion about why.

That's actually a good explanation and fits with the polling data. Thankfully Trump tanks with literally every other demographic.

 

[RevPokemon]

That's actually a good explanation and fits with the polling data. Thankfully Trump tanks with literally every other demographic.

Except racists, KKK members,and Holocaust deniers.

Any Trump will always do better in online non serious polls than real ones since he is the best not for America but for Lulz and Pepe

 

[Joe88]

I'm just here waiting for wikileaks to drop the clinton bombshell documents...

 

[Lacius]

I'm just here waiting for wikileaks to drop the clinton bombshell documents...

It is highly unlikely they have anything and haven't released it yet. Take their claims with a grain of salt, because this would be far from the first time WikiLeaks embellished what they actually had or released information that turned out to be false.

I'm not saying they certainly don't have a bombshell, but it would be silly to think they do until they actually release it.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I'm just here waiting for wikileaks to drop the clinton bombshell documents...

Considering there's... what... 73 days left in her campaign?, I highly doubt that they would keep waiting if they actually had anything

 

[Joe88]

Considering there's... what... 73 days left in her campaign?, I highly doubt that they would keep waiting if they actually had anything

He is most likely going to release it days before the 1st debate to do the most damage, just like the dnc leak.
Timing is everything as they say.

 

[Lacius]

He is most likely going to release it days before the 1st debate to do the most damage, just like the dnc leak.
Timing is everything as they say.

Like I said earlier, there's no reason to think this bombshell actually exists until it's actually released. Julian Assange and WikiLeaks have claimed as far back as 2009 and just about every year since then to have had specific bombshells that to this day haven't been released.

 

[vayanui8]

This poll is clearly missing Vermin Supreme

 

[Lacius]

This poll is clearly missing Vermin Supreme

Last I checked, he was last seen failing to get the Libertarian nomination. You're free to vote Other though.

 

[rasputin]

wow, what a laugh!

 

[CeeDee]

Last I checked, he was last seen failing to get the Libertarian nomination. You're free to vote Other though.

I thought that was the Bernie button?

 

[RepeatingDigits]

Nobody, it's a country full of ignorant imbeciles. The US should follow Europe, so they can improve.

Ow, the edge! And what's this about following Europe? Yes goy, allow more immigrants! Surely no bad things could happen at all! Surrender your identity goy.
How about we form an American Union, and we have a single currency. Let's allow other countries to dictate our policies, what could possibly go wrong?

You know nothing.