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In an exclusive interview with [a]listdaily yesterday, Reggie Fils-Aimé, the CEO of Nintendo of America, explained that Nintendo needs to improve their communication of "the positioning" of the NX during its launch, going on to say how they need to do a better job helping people understand the "uniqueness" of the system and what it means for "the game-playing experience".

Furthermore, Fils-Aimé goes on to say how the NX needs to have a "continuous beat" of games for the system, which would create the urge to motivate "more and more people to pick up the hardware."

"We always do our breakdown of what worked, what didn’t, and certainly we’ve done that with Wii U, and we continue to believe that the innovation of the second screen was a worthwhile concept...... when we launch the NX—we have to do a better job communicating the positioning for the product. We have to do a better job helping people to understand its uniqueness and what that means for the game playing experience." ~ Reggie Fils-Aimé

The NX is still yet to be unveiled by Nintendo, however it is said to be a home-console/portable with datachable controllers.

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Source (main interview with Reggie himself)

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Unless you are going to fund it, and I doubt Nintendo has the juice for that, then these days I reckon that is middleware, ease/familiarity of programming and presumably online infrastructure.
The wii u was pretty much kicked in the head about the time unreal said nah -- http://gbatemp.net/threads/unreal-engine-4-to-not-support-wii-u.327758/ . I am not sure what position unreal is in today (I think my new console I would sooner lack unreal than unity but would definitely plump for both) but Nintendo don't seem to be rolling out the carpet.
Ease of programming... it is an ancient architecture overclocked and with three of them glued together badly, and the OS side of things is not much better.
Online, as much as I don't care for online it does seem to be a factor these days. About the only positives I have to say about Nintendo's offerings are it is free and we do not seem to have had any major security incidents. The regions (or at least the handling of Europe), the content, the functionality, the effectiveness of it, the friends/matchmaking... everything else that makes a service. Amateur hour at best there.

So like the others I going with extreme cynicism until proven otherwise. It seems I was beaten to quoting the same things being said for the wii u, however I will instead take the opportunity to piss on the 3ds a bit more. I loved and continue to love the GBA and DS (and GB/GBC for that matter) but they blew it hard with the 3ds, the mass exodus of devs from the thing being my metric. To that end I will go back to calling for Nintendo to become a peripheral (not sure why, their last amazing offering was either the DS touch screen which was less innovative and more inevitable and their last functional offering was the GC controller which was hardly world beating) and third party software dev; I see not benefit in them continuing to develop consoles, not even as a foil for some of the silliness of MS and Sony.

I'd much rather have them make consoles, they really add something to the table imo. Also its sales that matter and the 3ds is selling well (even if not near its predecessors.) NX being a hybrid and running ARM would make it a much better console than both the PS4 and XBONE, you could play console games on the go and play games at high resolutions at home, a shared library is the way to go. I for one am optimistic.

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I have find him to be a political mouth piece of Nintendo. He more often then not sounds like he's talking down to gamers. He also misrepresents what gamers in the NA want from Nintendo. He's like the token white guy in 90s black shows..you know the annoying and idiotic character whom is only a around to meet fcc guide lines n is used mostly for cheap and sad attemps at laughs.

Maybe for you americans but hes great PR. I've never heard him talk down to gamers. And how can he misrepresent?

 

[FrozenDragon150]

Ah, I have the highest hopes for Nintendo, IMO, it's the last real console developer, MicroSuck and Sony basically make cheaper pre-built PCs.

The moment Nintendo goes third party I'm quitting gaming altogether tbh, Nintendo makes their games fine tuned to their consoles and vice versa, they don't need $600 consoles to make some of the best games ever unlike Sony, they don't make awful rehashes every single year to suck out cash like Actishitsion either.

 

[codezer0]

What about the Sega Saturn launch? I'm pretty sure it has everything else beat by a long shot.

You mean the one that pissed off everyone simultaneously because nobody was properly prepared for it?

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Ah, I have the highest hopes for Nintendo, IMO, it's the last real console developer, MicroSuck and Sony basically make cheaper pre-built PCs.

The moment Nintendo goes third party I'm quitting gaming altogether tbh, Nintendo makes their games fine tuned to their consoles and vice versa, they don't need $600 consoles to make some of the best games ever unlike Sony, they don't make awful rehashes every single year to suck out cash like Actishitsion either.

Sony isnt THAT bad.

 

[codezer0]

Sony isnt THAT bad.

Yes, they are. And rather than take constructive criticism and appreciate fan efforts to improve their systems, they feud and ban the makers of these efforts or worse, try to have them arrested like George hotz.

 

[FAST6191]

What do they add for being a console maker?

Quality control at a level worth speaking of? Maybe in the NES and SNES days but nobody wants to go back to the stranglehold there. Today the Nintendo seal is a running joke.
Controllers? Sure I guess they have the nice dpad still, though I hear the final patents will expire soon and most have already. That said I can't imagine there are many for the glory that is proper push button switched controls and nobody seems to make those right now.
Hardware like the dominant platform (nowadays the PC)? Again back in the NES and SNES days it offered something over the PCs and minicomputers of the day (actual scrolling, whoo)
Being a joy to work with? Hardly.
A reference grade service in anything? I already dissed their online offerings, their OS abstraction stuff (MS and sony handling chat and the like far better, Nintendo then giving rise to the whole splatoon thing)
A chance to work with some great IPs? I guess they have loosened up a tiny bit but we are not going to see them unstable any of the big guns any time soon.
A chance to get a mega game funded? A console exclusive for Nintendo is not really a draw these days, and less than that of Sony or MS. You probably won't even get some marketing on the cheap for being on Nintendo gear.
A chance to get in on a potential big audience mega cheaply? What with Android in the world?

The only thing I can think of is they still have a thing in the minds of some to be "family friendly", whatever that means. Such a thing could matter but if you were a greasy teenager in the US when the NES hit we are not far off many of those possibly having grandchildren ( Mother's mean age at first birth: 25.6 (2011 est.) https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html ) so games are hardly an unknown. I will give that though Sony and MS could possibly have cleaned up here they seem not to have, no idea why.

 

[Sonic Angel Knight]

Usually the time to make decisions and judgement is when one is able to experience things. They said what they wanted to and we heard the statements. Acording to the phrase of "mouth writing the check that bodies can't cash" Reggie and his team of NX marketing has their bodies ready fo any back lash, and i still have not prepared mine cause for one thing. I don't know the price. Second, don't know launch titles, third, Don't know how the heck i am supposed to play this CONTRAPTION and then no assurance of what to expect.

It reminds me of 2013 feburary when playatstion announced the PS4 later the year, but had no console design, we never got to saw it during that conference. But they talked a lot about what they hope to bring and expect us to see coming for it. Most of it was a test demo of graphics than anything.

I want to believe in nintendo like i did whan i had to decide what to buy first. I am already disappointed i payed over $350 for launch day deluxe system only to get price drop less than a year and no compesation. (Unlike nintendo ambassador program) I spent less on a model 3 PS3 and got a better deal for it. Shame how that worked better.

One thing i do not hope to see is a price tag over $500, less than 12 games as launch titles (Not including digitial only indie games) Or a poor internal storage for data under 250 GB or bad controller support. We all know how much the gamepad lacked in funtion with touch screen games or actually being useful in majority of titles. A certain boundary has been established already and i don't want to see things like that in 2017.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

What do they add for being a console maker?

Quality control at a level worth speaking of? Maybe in the NES and SNES days but nobody wants to go back to the stranglehold there. Today the Nintendo seal is a running joke.
Controllers? Sure I guess they have the nice dpad still, though I hear the final patents will expire soon and most have already. That said I can't imagine there are many for the glory that is proper push button switched controls and nobody seems to make those right now.
Hardware like the dominant platform (nowadays the PC)? Again back in the NES and SNES days it offered something over the PCs and minicomputers of the day (actual scrolling, whoo)
Being a joy to work with? Hardly.
A reference grade service in anything? I already dissed their online offerings, their OS abstraction stuff (MS and sony handling chat and the like far better, Nintendo then giving rise to the whole splatoon thing)
A chance to work with some great IPs? I guess they have loosened up a tiny bit but we are not going to see them unstable any of the big guns any time soon.
A chance to get a mega game funded? A console exclusive for Nintendo is not really a draw these days, and less than that of Sony or MS. You probably won't even get some marketing on the cheap for being on Nintendo gear.
A chance to get in on a potential big audience mega cheaply? What with Android in the world?

The only thing I can think of is they still have a thing in the minds of some to be "family friendly", whatever that means. Such a thing could matter but if you were a greasy teenager in the US when the NES hit we are not far off many of those possibly having grandchildren ( Mother's mean age at first birth: 25.6 (2011 est.) https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html ) so games are hardly an unknown. I will give that though Sony and MS could possibly have cleaned up here they seem not to have, no idea why.

1. What issue is there with the quality? The wiiu and 3ds seem prefectly fine to me.
2.The wii u gamepad feels nice, maybe for small hands.
3.thats a simple fix you act like nintendo will never hear.
4. Your last two points are useless, they dont add much whether nintendo becomes a third party or not.
5. Yes, it is possible, there are gamers out there who want a good, simple gaming experience on the go and then continue at home, nothing really offers that with great success, Nintendo IP's sell consoles, maybe not as much as one would hope but they still sell consoles just look at how many wii u's sold after the release of sm4sh.

 

[WiiUBricker]

Sometimes it's better to get back to the roots. A cool looking console and traditional controllers that can compete with PS5 and Xbox Scorpio in terms of power would do the job. Heck, why not re-launch the SNES with better specs and game modules and call it Super NES God Super NES.

 

[XDel]

Cool, the 2nd screen is go!

 

[FAST6191]

Not hardware, though being laser based I am not expecting to pull one out of the attic in 20 years and not have any worries beyond having to track down some video cables.
It was more that game wise the NES and SNES saw Nintendo exercise some measure of control (even going to court a few times in some landmark cases when people variously worked around it), something that was viewed in stark contrast to the likes of the Atari before it where "anything goes" was the order of the day.
2. Nice but hardly anything earth shattering. Unless "second screen" amounted to something when I wasn't paying attention.
3. It is not impossible but given what they did for the wii u I do not hold their hardware devs in high esteem. Equally it has been years and their online services are still shockingly poor -- granted most things I have worked on would do well to see 10000 simultaneous users but I have had offerings better than Nintendo have had years to do specced, designed, built and deployed in months either by myself or with a few mates.
4. I would not have made the points if I thought they held no relevance to the conversation, in this case it is not them being better for being a third party but things that have meant them doing well for being a console maker in the current/US+Japan thinking of the matter. MS, Sony, EA, Ubisoft, Square-Enix and more work with big and little devs and open up their portfolios all the time, Nintendo have what Bayonetta 2 and I guess they did work with Capcom a few times. If I am J random software dev with a few things to my name then Nintendo do not seem to be giving them a shot at anything where the others seem happy to give it a go.
5. The cost to become an android dev is a PC, an android device (maybe, VMs do well) and a token sum less than I spent on pizza this evening along with the desire to do it. Nintendo is not even close to that. Some games can shift a console, that is some desire. I have to wonder if it would not have been better for them to be a third party.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Not hardware, though being laser based I am not expecting to pull one out of the attack in 20 years and not have any worries beyond having to track down some video cables.
It was more that game wise the NES and SNES saw Nintendo exercise some measure of control (even going to court a few times in some landmark cases when people variously worked around it), something that was viewed in stark contrast to the likes of the Atari before it where "anything goes" was the order of the day.
2. Nice but hardly anything earth shattering. Unless "second screen" amounted to something when I wasn't paying attention.
3. It is not impossible but given what they did for the wii u I do not hold their hardware devs in high esteem. Equally it has been years and their online services are still shockingly poor -- granted most things I have worked on would do well to see 10000 simultaneous users but I have had offerings better than Nintendo have had years to do specced, designed, built and deployed in months either by myself or with a few mates.
4. I would not have made the points if I thought they held no relevance to the conversation, in this case it is not them being better for being a third party but things that have meant them doing well for being a console maker in the current/US+Japan thinking of the matter. MS, Sony, EA, Ubisoft, Square-Enix and more work with big and little devs and open up their portfolios all the time, Nintendo have what Bayonetta 2 and I guess they did work with Capcom a few times. If I am J random software dev with a few things to my name then Nintendo do not seem to be giving them a shot at anything where the others seem happy to give it a go.
5. The cost to become an android dev is a PC, an android device (maybe, VMs do well) and a token sum less than I spent on pizza this evening along with the desire to do it. Nintendo is not even close to that. Some games can shift a console, that is some desire. I have to wonder if it would not have been better for them to be a third party.

2. Does it need to be earth shattering?
3.They havent upgraded their servers since basically no one plays the wiiu and the few that do arent worth the money.
4.Nintendo have worked with indie developers a lot lately, funding them.
5.could you elaborate?
Edit: nintendo dont need android just ARM

 

[GoldenSun3DS]

Well for one, if the NX can be hacked on launch day; I'm sold ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )

Console hacking is just a poor man's PC. I know, because that's what I used to use my Wii as. Now I have my own PC with power that beats the "modern" consoles by a large amount.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Console hacking is just a poor man's PC. I know, because that's what I used to use my Wii as. Now I have my own PC with power that beats the "modern" consoles by a large amount.

the modern consoles have chips from 2011 lol not too massive an achievement.

 

[Xzi]

the modern consoles have chips from 2011 lol not too massive an achievement.

Well, gaming in 4K is massively awesome. Meanwhile modern consoles can barely do 1080p@30FPS. So more than a slight difference in performance.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Well, gaming in 4K is massively awesome. Meanwhile modern consoles can barely do 1080p@30FPS.

You completely ignored my point.

 

[Xzi]

You completely ignored my point.

Because it's kinda moot. They could've put newer hardware in there if they wanted, and there are plenty of PC components from 2011 which will outperform modern consoles as well.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Because it's kinda moot. They could've put newer hardware in there if they wanted, and there are plenty of PC components from 2011 which will outperform modern consoles as well.

They could've but they didnt, thats the issue, next gen will most likely close this gap.

 

[Xzi]

They could've but they didnt, thats the issue, next gen will most likely close this gap.

Nah man, they've been saying this for the last several generations. Consoles as we know them will begin fading out soon, it'll all be PC-type hardware powering various devices. As long as Nintendo and Sony and Microsoft can make/publish good games, they'll be fine. Actually, that being the case, Microsoft might be fucked.

 

[FAST6191]

2. I suppose not, however it is hardly the same and thus you have to put effort into porting from PC or PSbone/PS360 which is never good when you are the underdog.
3. Damned if you do, damned if you don't huh. As much as I would like online to go away then should I be in Nintendo's position I would be damned if I won't. Also I was not kidding when I said I have made and deployed stuff better than Nintendo has there, I don't know what a team of me (or someone better than me as this web lark is not my idea of a good time) costs but it is probably in the realm of rounding error for a company like Nintendo. I know you will have the legacy and embedded nonsense to deal with and the lack of flexibility that comes with being a big company but we have seen ideas that I would have dismissed as conception go live so eh.
4. Indy is nice. However when we have the likes of Square working with Tri-Ace, EA and Ubisoft doing what they do, Sony and MS playing it how they play it. Equally several of those offer nice things like mocap, servers worth speaking of, orchestras and all that where Nintendo seem to be funding, a basic toolkit (if what is said and the leaked things are anything to go by) and the notion of it being an honour to work with them.
5. Probably best to unpack things then.
I started with a chance to get in on a potential big audience mega cheaply? What with Android in the world?
To be a dev for Sony or MS you need some serious backing, funds or maybe a really good demo. Nintendo do still have an admirable install base but reckon they can either charge like they did back in the day/these last few generations. In times past it has been shown that if you have a built in audience then that is a selling point (see also all those people making facebook games which did well for a while despite not being great games). As Android has the install base, a bigger one even, and the cost of getting on the platform is tiny and maybe even nothing for an awful lot of people (you can use your own phone/tablet and a PC which you already have, once you want to release it is a $25 USD registration fee ( https://developer.android.com/distribute/googleplay/start.html ).
Beyond that you mentioned Nintendo IP still selling consoles. We could debate how many of those might have been fence sitters or just waiting but I won't, instead I had to wonder if they sold larger numbers as a third party on the other consoles if that would be better still for them. I don't know what the margins are on the Wii U and what relative to that they might lose for being a third party but it is probably not amazing and a full price game for a console you already have (or maybe even the PC) is a far more palatable thing than a whole new one or two game console for a lot of people.

I would agree that Nintendo could do without Android, would like to see it though.

Edit. On the hacking discussion that happened in the meantime. Time was the xbox was a genuinely lovely media player and emulation machine (the wii slightly less so but it was cheap so hey), the GBA and DS were genuinely some of the best handheld devices on the market. To a raspberry pi blows the first lot out of the water and every TV for years has had VGA and/or HDMI just like my graphics card, back when getting stuff onto your TV was really hard. Not to mention the status of TV and film these days for the masses -- I have not watched TV properly for about 13 years at this point and nowadays with the streaming services there are many less technically inclined than I which do not do over the air/be here at this time to watch TV.
I like hacking things for the sake of hacking things but the incentive that you will end