Updating to Windows 10: Need Clarification

[the_randomizer]

Not as far as I know. The Auto KMS method is proven relliable, as long as you make sure to not let antiviruses kill the :hacktools: AUTOKMS thing.

Okay and do you have some insight on the whole installing-win 10-on-second-HDD partition as working with Win 7 harmoniously? I wish to install it on a second HDD, but on a new partition so it doesn't touch any of the data.

 

[VinsCool]

Okay and do you have some insight on the whole installing-win 10-on-second-HDD partition as working with Win 7 harmoniously? I wish to install it on a second HDD, but on a new partition so it doesn't touch any of the data.

Do you have a second partition on it already?

 

[the_randomizer]

Do you have a second partition on it already?

Not yet, no, I made one a while back, but I never installed Windows on it, but I can easily make another allocated space of about 40 GB. From there, according to several guides, I boot up the USB with the burned ISO on there, "install now", "customize installation", and then choose to install it on my new partition. As far as I can tell, it should work fine, the reason I'm not making this my primary OS is one of my devices, the WiFi adapter for my connection, isn't fully supported in Windows 10, only partially according to TP-link's website.

 

[VinsCool]

Not yet, no, I made one a while back, but I never installed Windows on it, but I can easily make another allocated space of about 40 GB. From there, according to several guides, I boot up the USB with the burned ISO on there, "install now", "customize installation", and then choose to install it on my new partition. As far as I can tell, it should work fine, the reason I'm not making this my primary OS is one of my devices, the WiFi adapter for my connection, isn't fully supported in Windows 10, only partially according to TP-link's website.

I see. If you proceed as you explained, it should work fine. You should get prompted to a dual boot screen on startup, and let you chose between windows 10 and windows 7

 

[EmanueleBGN]

Windows 7/8 drivers works on 10. I have an old motherboard with drivers designed for Vista and work fine.
Also, you can run a "compatibility checker" before upgrade

 

[the_randomizer]

I see. If you proceed as you explained, it should work fine. You should get prompted to a dual boot screen on startup, and let you chose between windows 10 and windows 7

Still, part of me is apprehensive about it, having to reinstall programs on Win 10 is going to be a nightmare, despite having them "already installed" on C and D drive. I'll look and double check these guides to be sure, but as a precaution, I'm backing up my vital data to a 1 TB USB HDD as a precaution.

Windows 7/8 drivers works on 10. I have an old motherboard with drivers designed for Vista and work fine.
Also, you can run a "compatibility checker" before upgrade

Most of them do anyway, I can always use the the Windows 8 drivers for my wireless adapter, GPU drivers already exist on nVidia's site, not sure about Realtek's audio HD drivers. I've been seeing a lot of people who install both OSes, but can't choose between them upon boot up, or that it defaults to Windows 10.

My machine more than meets the requirements:


Core i5 3570
nVidia GTX 660
8 GB DDR3-SDRAM
Two 1 TB HDDs

 

[VinsCool]

Still, part of me is apprehensive about it, having to reinstall programs on Win 10 is going to be a nightmare, despite having them "already installed" on C and D drive. I'll look and double check these guides to be sure, but as a precaution, I'm backing up my vital data to a 1 TB USB HDD as a precaution.



Most of them do anyway, I can always use the the Windows 8 drivers for my wireless adapter, GPU drivers already exist on nVidia's site, not sure about Realtek's audio HD drivers. I've been seeing a lot of people who install both OSes, but can't choose between them upon boot up, or that it defaults to Windows 10.

My machine more than meets the requirements:


Core i5 3570
nVidia GTX 660
8 GB DDR3-SDRAM
Two 1 TB HDDs

Honestly you shouldn't worry much about it. Windows 10 compatibility is very good, and likely to work on any setup as long as you get updates at start after the initial set up.

 

[the_randomizer]

Honestly you shouldn't worry much about it. Windows 10 compatibility is very good, and likely to work on any setup as long as you get updates at start after the initial set up.

There won't be conflicts with Windows 7 or Windows 10 trying to force itself to boot itself as the default OS? Apologies for asking questions like this, I just want to be sure I can have both and not botch anything up. That and I hope I can skip the activation during installation and then "activate" once it's up and running

 

[VinsCool]

There won't be conflicts with Windows 7 or Windows 10 trying to force itself to boot itself as the default OS? Apologies for asking questions like this, I just want to be sure I can have both and not botch anything up.

It won't "force itself", it will kindly ask you to select what OS to boot

 

[the_randomizer]

It won't "force itself", it will kindly ask you to select what OS to boot

I'm hearing a lot about the MBR in Windows 10 forcing the machine into booting into said OS and not giving a choice on which OS to choose from boot up.
https://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=116210

Can anyone confirm or debunk this?

Apparently, when you load the setup.exe from Windows 7/8 itself, you normally wouldn't be able to choose where to install it. However, this guide
http://win10faq.com/dual-boot-windows-10-and-previous-windows-versions/ explains there's a workaround, which is nice to know

 

[Zeriel]

@the_randomizer
DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!
Windows 10 is malware
Use Windows 7 instead, maybe 8

 

[VinsCool]

I'm hearing a lot about the MBR in Windows 10 forcing the machine into booting into said OS and not giving a choice on which OS to choose from boot up.
https://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=116210

Can anyone confirm or debunk this?

I can't personally confirm nor debunk this, because I've had a dual boot setup on my older laptop that was working just fine. Windows 10 and Windows 7 were working altogether, installed in different partitions.

Apparently, when you load the setup.exe from Windows 7/8 itself, you normally wouldn't be able to choose where to install it. However, this guide
http://win10faq.com/dual-boot-windows-10-and-previous-windows-versions/ explains there's a workaround, which is nice to know

I remember having my 2 partitions ready, one was Windows 7 fully set up, the other partition was empty, used for Windows 10. I simply had to proceed normally, selected the partition I wanted, installed, and got the dual boot screen prompted just fine afterward

 

[the_randomizer]

@the_randomizer
DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!
Use Windows 7 instead, maybe 8

Please reread the OP, I'm currently using Windows 7, have been doing so for the past what, four years or so?

My plan is to :

C Drive - Windows 7
D Drive - Windows 10

So, I don't think you read the OP quite all the through

Summary: Already on Windows 7, want a second HDD with 10, on a partition, not replacing my main OS, dual boot. Also my machine, my choice. Please don't clutter up my thread unless you want to help contribute.

I can't personally confirm nor debunk this, because I've had a dual boot setup on my older laptop that was working just fine. Windows 10 and Windows 7 were working altogether, installed in different partitions.


I remember having my 2 partitions ready, one was Windows 7 fully set up, the other partition was empty, used for Windows 10. I simply had to proceed normally, selected the partition I wanted, installed, and got the dual boot screen prompted just fine afterward

Wait, they were working fine or still are working fine side by side? Do you not have a dual OS setup anymore? Only thing not clear is how much space I need for the partition.

 

[VinsCool]

@the_randomizer
DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!
Windows 10 is malware
Use Windows 7 instead, maybe 8

Go back to reddit. Thank you.

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Please reread the OP, I'm currently using Windows 7, have been doing so for the past what, four years or so?

My plan is to :

C Drive - Windows 7
D Drive - Windows 10

So, I don't think you read the OP quite all the through

Summary: Already on Windows 7, want a second HDD with 10, on a partition, not replacing my main OS, dual boot. Also my machine, my choice. Please don't clutter up my thread unless you want to help contribute.




Wait, they were working fine or still are working fine side by side? Do you not have a dual OS setup anymore? Only thing not clear is how much space I need for the partition.

That was a dual boot setup.

 

[AyanamiRei0]

@the_randomizer
DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!
Windows 10 is malware

Windows 10 isn't even malware the most harm it can do is spy on you

 

[the_randomizer]

Windows 10 isn't even malware the most harm it can do is spy on you

So getting back to my questions, it is absolutely necessary for me to unplug the Win 7 HDD when I install the Win 10 to the second HDD? I hope I have time in between installing to "activate" it.

 

[VinsCool]

So getting back to my questions, it is absolutely necessary for me to unplug the Win 7 HDD when I install the Win 10 to the second HDD? I hope I have time in between installing to "activate" it.

Why would you unplug the HDD? O.o

 

[the_randomizer]

Why would you unplug the HDD? O.o

It was mentioned in the above posts, a fellow Temper suggested that I unplug the HDD with Windows 7 in it as I install Windows 10 to the other HDD; maybe the reason was to prevent accidental erasure of the C drive? I don't know.

 

[VinsCool]

It was mentioned in the above posts, a fellow Temper suggested that I unplug the HDD with Windows 7 in it as I install Windows 10 to the other HDD; maybe the reason was to prevent accidental erasure of the C drive? I don't know.

That doesn't make sense at all. How could you accidentally erase a drive or a partition with a windows 10 install? You chose the partition you want to instapl to, and nothing else would be affected.

 

[the_randomizer]

That doesn't make sense at all. How could you accidentally erase a drive or a partition with a windows 10 install? You chose the partition you want to instapl to, and nothing else would be affected.

No what I meant is when I run the installer, I do a custom install and choose where to install 10 in the menu. What I mean is accidentally choosing to install Windows 10 over my Windows 7 HDD, I believe his suggestion was to prevent that.