Hacking A9LH and GW Questions

[Skeet1983]

I have a few questions about A9LH and Gateway... I keep seeing threads on here about A9LH, but don't know much about it. What is it and what is it for? Is it a CFW? Are there benefits to using A9LH?

Also, I read on Gateway's site that they will support A9LH? How would that work with Gateway?

Thoughts/help on all this GREATLY appreciated and thanks in advance

 

[mudassirul]

A9lh can boot cfw on a coldboot much quicker and much more reliably than menuhax

 

[Kyojin]

About the Gateway question, it's still a mystery since the beta testers did not leak any relevant information. You can follow this thread for more info.

Regarding A9LH, it is not a CFW but a kernel exploit that enables a Nintendo 3DS/2DS/N3DS user to load stuff before the system boots, the benefits being:

• You can load a CFW directly on boot (coldboot)
• Vanilla-like boot when using a CFW (6-8 seconds of boot time, so your console loads a patched firmware like it would load an original one)
• No need for EmuNAND anymore, you can be on SysNAND with always the latest version installed (so you can access online without FW spoof and stuff)
• You have brick protection (software side) since A9LH boots even before your NAND is initialized. So you can flash backups in case something goes wrong

 

[Skeet1983]

Not sure how to proceed... I have both Gateway and SC DSTwo, want to be able to use both still. Thoughts/help appreciated

 

[Logan Pockrus]

Not sure how to proceed... I have both Gateway and SC DSTwo, want to be able to use both still. Thoughts/help appreciated

I would install A9LH (arm9loaderhax if you don't know) now (you can use Luma3DS for the time being), and wait for Gateway's official support of A9LH (which will supposedly be released soon).

 

[Azel]

you should wait for the GW update first

 

[Kyojin]

I would install A9LH (arm9loaderhax if you don't know) now (you can use Luma3DS for the time being), and wait for Gateway's official support of A9LH (which will supposedly be released soon).

Nah, for now word is they don't provide a compatible A9LH payload (see the recent reports on this thread). So better wait for things to clear up a bit I guess.

 

[Logan Pockrus]

Nah, for now word is they don't provide a compatible A9LH payload (see the recent reports on this thread). So better wait for things to clear up a bit I guess.

I didn't even see that! Jesus Christ that's a bad idea! An A9LH installer, specifically for Gateway. Wow. Don't install that! Gateway is certainly shady; is anyone really sure we can trust them? And if you don't trust them 100%, why would you install something as major as A9LH made by them? I wouldn't.

/rant

 

[awalsh053]

I didn't even see that! Jesus Christ that's a bad idea! An A9LH installer, specifically for Gateway. Wow. Don't install that! Gateway is certainly shady; is anyone really sure we can trust them? And if you don't trust them 100%, why would you install something as major as A9LH made by them? I wouldn't.

/rant

U can trust that they want your money and will not get it bricking people's 3ds

 

[Kyojin]

I didn't even see that! Jesus Christ that's a bad idea! An A9LH installer, specifically for Gateway. Wow. Don't install that! Gateway is certainly shady; is anyone really sure we can trust them? And if you don't trust them 100%, why would you install something as major as A9LH made by them? I wouldn't.

/rant

Maybe if the demand is high enough, they'll eventually release a separate payload that boots their launcher for those who installed the open source A9LH implementations, or... maybe they just don't care because they already have your money, and they know for sure that since you can do pretty much everything without a flashcart nowadays, they won't be selling loads of carts anymore.

For now, installing A9LH by following Plailect's guide using the community payloads and then setting up a 9.2 EmuNAND to use the GW with is an okay solution I guess. At least, you won't be fully dependent on the red cart in this scenario.

 

[Logan Pockrus]

It's not like Gateway is going to be selling very many more carts anyway. Think about it; the people who are waiting for Gateway are the ones who bought the cart already. Everyone else is using community tools because they're free, updated frequently (Luma3DS is updated by the hour), and downright better. Therefore, those who have been exposed to the Holy Grail won't go back to Gateway, and the ones who haven't (I.E. Gateway users) are just going to wait for the update. So, who in this scenario is buying a new cart? No one. I know there are exceptions to this, and everyone has their own opinion...but if I'm correct, there isn't much in it for Gateway anymore.

 

[Kyojin]

It's not like Gateway is going to be selling very many more carts anyway. Think about it; the people who are waiting for Gateway are the ones who bought the cart already. Everyone else is using community tools because they're free, updated frequently (Luma3DS is updated by the hour), and downright better. Therefore, those who have been exposed to the Holy Grail won't go back to Gateway, and the ones who haven't (I.E. Gateway users) are just going to wait for the update. So, who in this scenario is buying a new cart? No one. I know there are exceptions to this, and everyone has their own opinion...but if I'm correct, there isn't much in it for Gateway anymore.

maybe they just don't care because they already have your money, and they know for sure that since you can do pretty much everything without a flashcart nowadays, they won't be selling loads of carts anymore.

We are on the same page here.

 

[KSP]

It's not like Gateway is going to be selling very many more carts anyway. Think about it; the people who are waiting for Gateway are the ones who bought the cart already. Everyone else is using community tools because they're free, updated frequently (Luma3DS is updated by the hour), and downright better. Therefore, those who have been exposed to the Holy Grail won't go back to Gateway, and the ones who haven't (I.E. Gateway users) are just going to wait for the update. So, who in this scenario is buying a new cart? No one. I know there are exceptions to this, and everyone has their own opinion...but if I'm correct, there isn't much in it for Gateway anymore.

Actually that's not 100% correct.

I've been on a9 since day one pretty much, but have been patiently waiting for a GW a9 loader since then, because I like to drag and drop games onto a flashcard most of the times, I don't like to install every single game that comes out, due to laziness.

So, I've tasted the Holy Grail for a long time now, but I still like to go slumming cause its just easier.

The way I see it, GW needs to make a public a9 payload that works on all a9 setups, regardless of CFW build, and they should do what they are doing which is to create their own stuff.

I can still see GW selling more cards, because no matter what, a drag and drop flashcard is always gonna be easier and faster than installing cias, regardless of how you install your cias via grabber like CiaAngel or via traditional method, I can always see a scenario where a Flashcard is useful.

 

[Logan Pockrus]

Actually that's not 100% correct.

I've been on a9 since day one pretty much, but have been patiently waiting for a GW a9 loader since then, because I like to drag and drop games onto a flashcard most of the times, I don't like to install every single game that comes out, due to laziness.

So, I've tasted the Holy Grail for a long time now, but I still like to go slumming cause its just easier.

The way I see it, GW needs to make a public a9 payload that works on all a9 setups, regardless of CFW build, and they should do what they are doing which is to create their own stuff.

I can still see GW selling more cards, because no matter what, a drag and drop flashcard is always gonna be easier and faster than installing cias, regardless of how you install your cias via grabber like CiaAngel or via traditional method, I can always see a scenario where a Flashcard is useful.

I respect your opinion, and actually partially agree with it. I myself, believe it or not, have a Gateway cart that I own, and even use for nostalgia I suppose. Regardless, there's no arguing Gateway trumps everyone with the simplicity of their product's usage. Think about it; to play launch Gateway, you need simply one file on the root of your SD card (before performing whichever exploit), and to play a backup, you simply need to drag-'n'-drop it onto the Micro SD card in the red card. No matter which way you spin it, Gateway is great with simplicity. Now, needing the red card literally every time you boot your 3ds will SUCK, though.... (Not that I'll be uninstalling delebile's A9LH and installing Gateway's, but you get the point.)

 

[tony_2018]

Actually that's not 100% correct.

I've been on a9 since day one pretty much, but have been patiently waiting for a GW a9 loader since then, because I like to drag and drop games onto a flashcard most of the times, I don't like to install every single game that comes out, due to laziness.

So, I've tasted the Holy Grail for a long time now, but I still like to go slumming cause its just easier.

The way I see it, GW needs to make a public a9 payload that works on all a9 setups, regardless of CFW build, and they should do what they are doing which is to create their own stuff.

I can still see GW selling more cards, because no matter what, a drag and drop flashcard is always gonna be easier and faster than installing cias, regardless of how you install your cias via grabber like CiaAngel or via traditional method, I can always see a scenario where a Flashcard is useful.

The best of both worlds bro...the best of both worlds..