Homebrew [Release] CIAngel - download GOOD cias right on your 3ds :)

[gamecaptor]

The cia that ciangel installs has a good ticket so the game will be re downloadable in eshop(while on cfw not if you sign into your nnid on another console) so yes the cia you install with ciangel are "better" imo

I should have been more specific, I was thinking in terms of a dumped retail cart (.3ds) into a .cia.

So if that's the case then there is little reason to dump retail carts then?

 

[4gionz]

I should have been more specific, I was thinking in terms of a dumped retail cart (.3ds) into a .cia.

So if that's the case then there is little reason to dump retail carts then?

Yeah I wouldn't dump my own carts it's not worth it just use ciangel for everything

 

[fitz420]

I've been using CIAngel happily since it came out. Is there an opinion on whether its safer to install directly or just download the tickets and then install through eshop? The tickets/eshop route is a little more convenient for downloading/installing multiples while sleeping, but it feels less safe to me. Just wondering whether or not there is a difference.

 

[Drakia]

I've been using CIAngel happily since it came out. Is there an opinion on whether its safer to install directly or just download the tickets and then install through eshop? The tickets/eshop route is a little more convenient for downloading/installing multiples while sleeping, but it feels less safe to me. Just wondering whether or not there is a difference.

There's no concrete evidence one way or the other, but I'm of the opinion that installing through the eShop itself would have a higher chance of Nintendo catching on that something is wrong compared to installing directly with CIAngel (Or installing generated CIAs with FBI).

The latest version of CIAngel also has a queue feature, you can press X in the result list to queue up the title, and then choose Process Queue on the main menu to install/download the queue. You can't put your 3DS into sleep mode (Closing the lid will cancel the downloads) but it's an option for installing multiple titles

 

[Xenosaiga]

I should have been more specific, I was thinking in terms of a dumped retail cart (.3ds) into a .cia.

So if that's the case then there is little reason to dump retail carts then?

The only reason to dump retail carts now is if they do not have a digital copy of that game.

 

[GerbilSoft]

The only reason to dump retail carts now is if they do not have a digital copy of that game.

Don't forget prototypes. (Good luck finding any 3DS game protos, though.)

 

[gamecaptor]

Ok, then let me take this to another level. What is the difference between buying an eShop game and CIAngel.

 

[Xenosaiga]

Ok, then let me take this to another level. What is the difference between buying an eShop game and CIAngel.

When buying a game you pay money. When using CIAngel you use a leaked key to pirate the game.

 

[Drakia]

Ok, then let me take this to another level. What is the difference between buying an eShop game and CIAngel.

Games downloaded/installed with CIAngel aren't tied to your NNID. With a purchase on the eShop, you can transfer games when switching to a new unmodified system, this isn't the case with games downloaded through CIAngel.

 

[phalk]

Ok, then let me take this to another level. What is the difference between buying an eShop game and CIAngel.

When you buy you spend money.

 

[proflayton123]

When you buy you spend money.

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[fitz420]

There's no concrete evidence one way or the other, but I'm of the opinion that installing through the eShop itself would have a higher chance of Nintendo catching on that something is wrong compared to installing directly with CIAngel (Or installing generated CIAs with FBI).

The latest version of CIAngel also has a queue feature, you can press X in the result list to queue up the title, and then choose Process Queue on the main menu to install/download the queue. You can't put your 3DS into sleep mode (Closing the lid will cancel the downloads) but it's an option for installing multiple titles

Thanks for your answer. I'm kind of old school and afraid of "burn in" when leaving CIAngel on for long periods with screen open. Is burn in even possible with a 3ds screen? I have both an IPS model and a TN model.

 

[GerbilSoft]

LCD burn-in is possible, but it's significantly less than e.g. plasma screens or AMOLED. You'd have to leave it on for hours at a time before any sort of image retention shows up.

 

[Drakia]

Thanks for your answer. I'm kind of old school and afraid of "burn in" when leaving CIAngel on for long periods with screen open. Is burn in even possible with a 3ds screen? I have both an IPS model and a TN model.

That's not something I could answer, so far my 3DS has spent many many hours sitting at CIAngel install screens without issue though

 

[mammastuffing]

Games downloaded/installed with CIAngel aren't tied to your NNID. With a purchase on the eShop, you can transfer games when switching to a new unmodified system, this isn't the case with games downloaded through CIAngel.

Would it be possible to transfer games if you've created the ticket and downloaded the software via the eShop?

I've found that some games simple doesn't work when installed via CIAngel, Pokémon yellow and red for instance, they only work if I create a ticket and download them via the eShop.

Also; CIAngel is awesome! Thanks for the release!

 

[Xenosaiga]

Would it be possible to transfer games if you've created the ticket and downloaded the software via the eShop?

I've found that some games simple doesn't work when installed via CIAngel, Pokémon yellow and red for instance, they only work if I create a ticket and download them via the eShop.

Also; CIAngel is awesome! Thanks for the release!

This is because these games require a "seed" to work correctly thy simply gotten by visiting the eshop page.

When you install the game from eshop after installing the ticket you automatically grab that seed.

Try installing the game with CIAngel and then visiting the game information page in the eshop.

 

[mammastuffing]

This is because these games require a "seed" to work correctly thy simply gotten by visiting the eshop page.

When you install the game from eshop after installing the ticket you automatically grab that seed.

Try installing the game with CIAngel and then visiting the game information page in the eshop.

Alright, I get it - thanks man. But I don't have anything against downloading via the eShop, are there any cons doing it?

 

[Drakia]

Would it be possible to transfer games if you've created the ticket and downloaded the software via the eShop?

I've found that some games simple doesn't work when installed via CIAngel, Pokémon yellow and red for instance, they only work if I create a ticket and download them via the eShop.

Also; CIAngel is awesome! Thanks for the release!

No, it wouldn't be possible. The ticket that CIAngel (Or any other CIA creation tool) creates is not a "legit" ticket, it's just a "valid"/"good" ticket (It doesn't contain data that will interfere with legitimately purchasing/downloading the game). To be able to create something that can be transfered between consoles we would need Nintendo's signing key, which is something we will most likely never have.

In regards to certain games not working, as @Xenosaiga said, the games have an extra layer of encryption, and you get the key just by visiting the eShop page. If it's an out of region game, you will need to get your hands on a seeddb.bin file that contains the key for that game, and decrypt the CIA with Decrypt9 before install.

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Alright, I get it - thanks man. But I don't have anything against downloading via the eShop, are there any cons doing it?

As I said above:

There's no concrete evidence one way or the other, but I'm of the opinion that installing through the eShop itself would have a higher chance of Nintendo catching on that something is wrong compared to installing directly with CIAngel (Or installing generated CIAs with FBI).

 

[mammastuffing]

No, it wouldn't be possible. The ticket that CIAngel (Or any other CIA creation tool) creates is not a "legit" ticket, it's just a "valid"/"good" ticket (It doesn't contain data that will interfere with legitimately purchasing/downloading the game). To be able to create something that can be transfered between consoles we would need Nintendo's signing key, which is something we will most likely never have.

In regards to certain games not working, as @Xenosaiga said, the games have an extra layer of encryption, and you get the key just by visiting the eShop page. If it's an out of region game, you will need to get your hands on a seeddb.bin file that contains the key for that game, and decrypt the CIA with Decrypt9 before install.

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As I said above:

There's no concrete evidence one way or the other, but I'm of the opinion that installing through the eShop itself would have a higher chance of Nintendo catching on that something is wrong compared to installing directly with CIAngel (Or installing generated CIAs with FBI).

Thanks for the reply, sort of thing that's good to know.

Okay, well now that I know how to get the software to get running after CIAngel install better be on the safe side, thanks!

 

[Drakia]

Curious if it's just me. Can anyone else with a USA console confirm if STORY OF SEASONS (latest harvest moon entry iirc) installs properly? It always fails at 99% for me, I may try to run the the eur version if I can figure out the region free thing.

Story of Seasons (USA) didn't have an encrypted title key until recently. Apparently that happens on the database we use, I'll open an issue to add some sort of check to not include titles missing encrypted keys.