The above controller concept could be what the NX will be controlled with... or not!

As documented in depth in a recent NeoGAF thread by user Rösti, Nintendo filed a patent in October 2014 for the above U-shaped controller and the patent saw an international filing on September 18, 2015, and publication on April 22, 2016, via WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organization).

Somewhat reminiscent of the Xbox 360's Wireless Speed Wheel, huh?

Most likely the controller will be applied for fitness games following Nintendo's interest in "quality of life" products. It's not a regular controller either as it boasts an accelerometer, gyrometer, temperature sensor and load sensor. Time to get fit in the 21st century!

A rough English translation of the patent application reads: "The main object of the present invention is to provide a novel training equipment, training system and an input device."

Below are more images of the patent's drawings:

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More interestingly, the translations refer to "portable terminals" that can apparently be connected with the device to display a screen, exemplified in the image below (and more in the source):

Well this is definitely material for further speculations. Is it for the NX or to add once and for all the U in WiiU? What other applications will it have? And will it actually be released?

SOURCE

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Patents are such a joke. Artificial monopolies that limit creativity, competition and innovation. Thanks, government!

Patents are wonderful things, it's patent trolls that are stupid. Patents are very valuable to small-time inventors that are prone to getting their ideas stolen by bigger companies that they work for

 

[FAST6191]

Patents are such a joke. Artificial monopolies that limit creativity, competition and innovation. Thanks, government!

There are huge issues with the patent system (though other than software patents I am not sure to what extent Japan's system is in need of work) the concept itself is pretty sound -- nobody invents anything if one week after you release a version out there into the world then some arsehole like myself has pulled it apart, figured out how it was made, figured out how it works and has then made a copy that undercuts your product as I did not need to put the millions (or more) you poured into the 50 different failed prototypes, possibly the research into the chemicals that made it up, the adapting it to meet regs and possibly all the money you spent marketing it as well.

 

[Haloman800]

Patents are wonderful things, it's patent trolls that are stupid. Patents are very valuable to small-time inventors that are prone to getting their ideas stolen by bigger companies that they work for

Ideas can't be stolen. Patents and copyright laws are clear violations of freedom of speech; they essentially tell someone what they can and can't do with their own property, which is also a violation of property rights.

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There are huge issues with the patent system (though other than software patents I am not sure to what extent Japan's system is in need of work) the concept itself is pretty sound -- nobody invents anything if one week after you release a version out there into the world then some arsehole like myself has pulled it apart, figured out how it was made, figured out how it works and has then made a copy that undercuts your product as I did not need to put the millions (or more) you poured into the 50 different failed prototypes, possibly the research into the chemicals that made it up, the adapting it to meet regs and possibly all the money you spent marketing it as well.

Please see my above post. Also check out https://mises.org/library/case-against-ip-concise-guide if you're interested in what I'm arguing.

Another point I'd like to make, if patent laws were repealed. life saving drugs like chemotherapy treatment and AIDs medicine would be as inexpensive as aspirin. It's only artificial government monopolies that increases their cost tens of thousands of times higher than they should be.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Ideas can't be stolen. Patents and copyright laws are clear violations of freedom of speech; they essentially tell someone what they can and can't do with their own property, which is also a violation of property rights.

Sure they can. Imagine you spend 10 years of your life developing some revolutionary, and you just finish it when someone hacks you and steals all of your concept art and pitches it to a marketing firm. They get rich without doing any of the work, and you're penniless and watching your passion be sold under the name of someone who's only in it for the money

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Another point I'd like to make, if patent laws were repealed. life saving drugs like chemotherapy treatment and AIDs medicine would be as inexpensive as aspirin. It's only artificial government monopolies that increases their cost tens of thousands of times higher than they should be.

That's a whole 'nother issue in itself. That's not a patent issue, it's a "Big pharma is a dick and healthcare could be better" issue

 

[CreAtor135]

Two dildos for two times the action.

 

[Haloman800]

Sure they can. Imagine you spend 10 years of your life developing some revolutionary, and you just finish it when someone hacks you and steals all of your concept art and pitches it to a marketing firm. They get rich without doing any of the work, and you're penniless and watching your passion be sold under the name of someone who's only in it for the money

This is for you:

That's a whole 'nother issue in itself. That's not a patent issue, it's a "Big pharma is a dick and healthcare could be better" issue

Big pharma is allowed to be a dick (aka charging whatever they like) because of government patents (artificial monopoly, keeping competitors out at the point of a gun).

I was of the same opinion as you 6 months ago. After being exposed to new information, I've come to the realization of the invalidity of copyright and patent laws. I urge you to read https://mises.org/library/case-against-ip-concise-guide

 

[FAST6191]

Well this is a new path I had not necessarily expected. This looks like it is going to be a hilarious read so I might have to settle in for this one.

"Property in Bodies"
Sounds like these people need to read some better sci fi if garden of eden is their ideal -- plenty of stuff has full memory at time of death clones as an option, they would not even have to go too much beyond the Atlas Shrugged (1957) stuff and look at things like Dune (1965) for an example (thought I suppose technically the gholas did not appear properly until 1969 in Dune Messiah) and Riverworld (1971) for an entire series almost predicated upon the concept. However this is way off topic and it is not like it is terribly relevant here as we are not in superabundance.

Even assuming what is says is correct* then we would have to start from the standpoint that freedom of speech, property rights and I guess individual rights are higher ideals than things that intellectual property law might theoretically protect. For what it is worth those that would try to tell me businesses be people too, son are likely to get a very hostile response but I can at least see some scope here for patents and IP in general to do things.

*even if a semantic agreement could be reached then we still have the issue that the courts very much recognise the concepts and apply the law accordingly. A semantic agreement is not going to happen here though as the underlying philosophy/logic espoused there is not one that I or seemingly the governments, businesses, power players.... of the world share.

Back on topic (again) they seem to like the term "scarce resources" and I am not sure how else to classify human time and resources that theoretically are used to push forward the state of technology.

"they essentially tell someone what they can and can't do with their own property"
Other than some of the things in the weapons, drugs and explosives type world (and even then it is contentious) world then if I can knock it out in my workshop then I can have it. The US approach to genetics (which also forms a lot of the basis for software patents or vice versa) is also highly suspect but that is not enough to write off a concept for me, causes me to seriously consider writing off the US for a lot of things that but that is a different matter. Whether I can sell said workshop product to someone else or the general public is a different matter, likewise whether I can use it as a service could also be part of it (though this might be more the business methods side of things).

Two dildos for two times the action.

Relevant

 

[Justinde75]

No it's not, it's something a couple of idiots made up on GBATEMP usually around the age group of 12-16.

Its used on other Forums too.
(Please can you try to increase your post count in a different way? Thanks! )

 

[phalk]

Now they are just trolling us.

 

[kumikochan]

Its used on other Forums too.
(Please can you try to increase your post count in a different way? Thanks! )

what has post count to do with anything and i already posted something else afterwards when somebody pointed it out.

 

[Justinde75]

what has post count to do with anything and i already posted something else afterwards when somebody pointed it out.

I dont see what your problem is. People call the Xbox One Xbone too. People can call Ninty what they want, and you certainly can't force them not to. Be a Smartass somewhere else please.

 

[kumikochan]

I dont see what your problem is. People call the Xbox One Xbone too. People can call Ninty what they want, and you certainly can't force them not to. Be a Smartass somewhere else please.

I'm not being a smartass, i'm just stating my opinion that it sounds idiotic and that's that. Also if i can't even state my opinion then who are you stating that i should leave ?

 

[KingVamp]

This is a perfect example of people overeating over a patent.
Playstation Controller

 

[Justinde75]

I'm not being a smartass, i'm just stating my opinion that it sounds idiotic and that's that.

That makes no sense. I dont say anything against your opinion but you complain about MY opinion. And you said it twice, if you do it one time its okay, but not multiple times.

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This is a perfect example of people overeating over a patent.
Playstation Controller

Ahh the "bumerang"

 

[FAST6191]

Well further to this ninty discussion I went and searched usenet archives as well
Endless examples from many groups

Earliest the google groups had
1998 Usenet rec.games.video.nintendo 1998/10/30
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!s...games.video.nintendo/nyXVQWqTLZA/r7UcYDM6ZCwJ

And the really crazy one
4 Jan 93 in misc.invest
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!s...elevance/misc.invest/T1FJomY_m1c/Vx6ehcmbgiIJ
"Nintendo is traded as an ADR here in America the symbol is NINTY."

Olaf Vancura
04/01/1993
Hi,

Just a curiousity question about Nintendo of America. Are they actively
traded on any of the markets? Or are they under a parent company somewhere?
Is it possible to invest in Nintendo (of Japan) from the states?

Any information would be helpful!

Olaf

Richard A. Kelly
14/01/1993
Nintendo is traded as an ADR here in America the symbol is NINTY.
You may want to call a broker (preferably one at Shearson Lehman)
and have him buy the stock on the japanese market the symbol in
Japan is 7974.

Gook luck

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_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ Richard A. Kelly
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ LEHMAN BROTHERS
_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ World Financial Center, 11th Floor
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ New York, NY 10285
_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ (212) 640-7252

For the curious about what an ADR is http://www.investinganswers.com/fin...ck-market/american-depositary-receipt-adr-843
And as I was thinking about that online identity thread I thought I would see if I could find what one Mr Richard A Kelly that was at Lehman Brothers in 1993 and I got back http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=626901&privcapId=264197

So now I think we might have gone beyond slang and now having it as a stock term. If in doubt we are all 90's stock traders now.

 

[kumikochan]

Well further to this ninty discussion I went and searched usenet archives as well
Endless examples from many groups

Earliest the google groups had
1998 Usenet rec.games.video.nintendo 1998/10/30
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!s...games.video.nintendo/nyXVQWqTLZA/r7UcYDM6ZCwJ

And the really crazy one
4 Jan 93 in misc.invest
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!s...elevance/misc.invest/T1FJomY_m1c/Vx6ehcmbgiIJ
"Nintendo is traded as an ADR here in America the symbol is NINTY."


For the curious about what an ADR is http://www.investinganswers.com/fin...ck-market/american-depositary-receipt-adr-843
And as I was thinking about that online identity thread I thought I would see if I could find what one Mr Richard A Kelly that was at Lehman Brothers in 1993 and I got back http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=626901&privcapId=264197

So now I think we might have gone beyond slang and now having it as a stock term. If in doubt we are all 90's stock traders now.

Like i already said before i don't care about that i just think it's idiotic to say that instead of Nintendo or is it so hard to type for some people ?

 

[FAST6191]

You can feel however you wish to feel, however correcting people is no longer trying to stop a local meme/slang term from forming but heading right into obnxious territory is the term is widespread, well established and not likely to trouble anybody -- "I am going to play my 64 this evening" could well mean Commodore 64 or Nintendo 64 but Ninty is fairly obvious, unless you are worried about skim reading ninety nine nights fans I guess.

 

[kumikochan]

You can feel however you wish to feel, however correcting people is no longer trying to stop a local meme/slang term from forming but heading right into obnxious territory is the term is widespread, well established and not likely to trouble anybody -- "I am going to play my 64 this evening" could well mean Commodore 64 or Nintendo 64 but Ninty is fairly obvious, unless you are worried about skim reading ninety nine nights fans I guess.

I just call it my N64 and never heard any people here in Europe call it Ninty, maybe it's a thing from the states but never heard it in the past here. Ninty is something i usually hear kids call it here but not a single adult i know calls it that in Europe. Atleast not in my area.

 

[Justinde75]

Like i already said before i don't care about that i just think it's idiotic to say that instead of Nintendo or is it so hard to type for some people ?

If you dont care why are you complaining?

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I just call it my N64 and never heard any people here in Europe call it Ninty, maybe it's a thing from the states but never heard it in the past here. Ninty is something i usually hear kids call it here but not a single adult i know calls it that in Europe. Atleast not in my area.

All my friends say Nintendo but write Ninty on Forums (Im from Germany)

 

[kumikochan]

If you dont care why are you complaining?

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All my friends say Nintendo but write Ninty on Forums (Im from Germany)

you're also probably in a different age group then i am but enough about that. Call it whatever you want, i have a different opinion about it and clearly other people also do wich is perfectly fine