Hacking Newer japanese games seems to be not working on installing or playing without NTR plugins...

[Traiver]

Hey gbatemp,

I have some issues with newer games as Cia files.

First, I converted my japanese copy of Mario & Luigi - Paper Jam Bros into a spoofed cia with the simple 3ds to cia Converter 4.3. This works fine and installing it, too. But when I tried to start the cia, it shows me first how the game starts with some japanese text and after it, it ends in a black error screen. So somebody figured out that the cia version of this game only works with the NTR language plugin on different region 3DS's. Thats the first thing.

Second, I got the Pokémon Picross japanese Version. The 3ds file works fine but everytime when I will change it into a clean or spoofed cia, it wont let me install the game. It shows different error codes. For the spoofed version:

Import failed. This cia is invalid (0xD8E08025), tried with BBM, DM and FBI.

For the clean version:

Install failed. Description: DESCRIPTION_INVALID_NCCH (0x25)


Has anyone the same problem with newer games?


Thanks in advance.

 

[Deleted-236924]

Isn't Pokémon Picross an eShop-only title?
If you have it as a .3ds, it means someone got a .cia and converted to .3ds somehow which I'm not sure if it works properly. I don't know if CIA converters would be able to properly convert such a .3ds rom. I recommend getting it directly as .cia

Also it literally comes out tomorrow in other regions, why not just wait until tomorrow and get it from the eShop?

 

[Traiver]

Isn't Pokémon Picross an eShop-only title?
If you have it as a .3ds, it means someone got a .cia and converted to .3ds somehow which I'm not sure if it works properly. I don't know if CIA converters would be able to properly convert such a .3ds rom. I recommend getting it directly as .cia

Also it literally comes out tomorrow in other regions, why not just wait until tomorrow and get it from the eShop?

I know, but the direct dumped cia is also not working.

 

[wsquan171]

Are you using new 3ds? Newer eshop games are using 9.6 encryption method which could probably be the source of problem.

 

[Datalogger]

Game Name - Pokemon Picross (Japan).3ds
Game Serial - CTR-N-JFJA
Main Title ID - 000400000017C100
CRC32 of .3DS - 0377E519

Does one of your backups match the same CRC32 as above?
If so then I have that same game backup and converted it into a .CIA using Simple CIA Converter v4.3

It installed and runs fine in my O3DS 10.3.0-19U with rxTools
It crashes at 99% with that same error if I install it with Gateway

What is interesting is if I install it to my emuNAND with rxTools, the Game and the Manual work fine.
If I leave the rxTools .CIA installed and launch the emuNAND from Gateway, the Game plays fine the the Manual crashes the 3DS and it has to be rebooted.

I was asking about this same problem to do3k, the one developing decrypt9(WIP) to see if he could add a "Fix Gateway Manual Problem" selection to just remove the Manual and be done with it.

The way I have been fixing Gateway Manual Problem is to Deep-Decrypt the .CIA with Decrypt9(WIP), extract the contents with PackHack, Rebuild a .3DS with PackHack/3DS Builder then remake the .CIA with Simple CIA Converter.

What you end up with after all of that is a .3DS and a .CIA that have no Manual, no 9.6+"Crypto" and work fine in Gateway mode.
(It loses the Manual because PackHack/3DS Builder doesn't "do" Manuals.)

This is the long-way, but the only-way I've found that works 100% of the time.

 

[Deleted-19228]

Game Name - Pokemon Picross (Japan).3ds
Game Serial - CTR-N-JFJA
Main Title ID - 000400000017C100
CRC32 of .3DS - 0377E519

Does one of your backups match the same CRC32 as above?
If so then I have that same game backup and converted it into a .CIA using Simple CIA Converter v4.3

It installed and runs fine in my O3DS 10.3.0-19U with rxTools
It crashes at 99% with that same error if I install it with Gateway

What is interesting is if I install it to my emuNAND with rxTools, the Game and the Manual work fine.
If I leave the rxTools .CIA installed and launch the emuNAND from Gateway, the Game plays fine the the Manual crashes the 3DS and it has to be rebooted.

I was asking about this same problem to do3k, the one developing decrypt9(WIP) to see if he could add a "Fix Gateway Manual Problem" selection to just remove the Manual and be done with it.

The way I have been fixing Gateway Manual Problem is to Deep-Decrypt the .CIA with Decrypt9(WIP), extract the contents with PackHack, Rebuild a .3DS with PackHack/3DS Builder then remake the .CIA with Simple CIA Converter.

What you end up with after all of that is a .3DS and a .CIA that have no Manual, no 9.6+"Crypto" and work fine in Gateway mode.
(It loses the Manual because PackHack/3DS Builder doesn't "do" Manuals.)

This is the long-way, but the only-way I've found that works 100% of the time.

CRC32 isn't going to match on anyone's dumps...Your headers are unique = unique CRC32

 

[Deleted-236924]

CRC32 isn't going to match on anyone's dumps...Your headers are unique = unique CRC32

They're talking about games downloaded off the internet from people who uploaded them.
That particular game I doubt would really have a header or anything given it is only available from the eShop. There aren't actual retail cartridges of that game for people to dump

 

[Deleted-19228]

I thought OP was referring to mario not picross

 

[Jow Banks]

Hey gbatemp,

I have some issues with newer games as Cia files.

First, I converted my japanese copy of Mario & Luigi - Paper Jam Bros into a spoofed cia with the simple 3ds to cia Converter 4.3. This works fine and installing it, too. But when I tried to start the cia, it shows me first how the game starts with some japanese text and after it, it ends in a black error screen. So somebody figured out that the cia version of this game only works with the NTR language plugin on different region 3DS's. Thats the first thing.

Second, I got the Pokémon Picross japanese Version. The 3ds file works fine but everytime when I will change it into a clean or spoofed cia, it wont let me install the game. It shows different error codes. For the spoofed version:

Import failed. This cia is invalid (0xD8E08025), tried with BBM, DM and FBI.

For the clean version:

Install failed. Description: DESCRIPTION_INVALID_NCCH (0x25)


Has anyone the same problem with newer games?


Thanks in advance.

you said the .3DS file of picross runs fine - what happens if you try to look at the manual? - does it crashed the 3ds?