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I just bought a broken PS3 off of Ebay (I'm a cheap bastard), and I can't seem to figure out what the problem is.

I've tried reflowing the CPUs (and GPU) with a hair-dryer, twice and no go. I've also tried doing to hair-dryer trick (although I didn't use a box.)

What kind of other problems could there be with it?
 
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I've heard something about putting the motherboard in the oven before?
Obviously, I wouldn't try it without researching it first.
 

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I've heard something about putting the motherboard in the oven before?
Obviously, I wouldn't try it without researching it first.

Yeah, I've heard of that too, however I'm sketched about doing that.

you need at least 300c heat gun to melt the solder under the chips

Really? Wow, I need to get an actual heat gun then. XD
 

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yeah get a heat gun, like $20 and will resurrect your machines.

just be careful with staying in one spot too long, make quick circles, heat on low for about 2 minutes, then high for 2 minutes. LET THE BOARD COOL. thinks its cool enough, LET IT COOL MORE. then reassemble and pray.

sometimes you need pressure on the chip, in that case, put a penny in the corner of each chip, something like this:
Code:
_________
|0      0|
|        |
|        |
|0      0|
---------

then reassemble.
 

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yeah get a heat gun, like $20 and will resurrect your machines.

just be careful with staying in one spot too long, make quick circles, heat on low for about 2 minutes, then high for 2 minutes. LET THE BOARD COOL. thinks its cool enough, LET IT COOL MORE. then reassemble and pray.

sometimes you need pressure on the chip, in that case, put a penny in the corner of each chip, something like this:
Code:
_________
|0      0|
|        |
|        |
|0      0|
---------

then reassemble.

Thanks for the info, I'll try that when I get a heat gun.
 

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I've heard something about putting the motherboard in the oven before?
Obviously, I wouldn't try it without researching it first.
Yeah, I've heard of that too, however I'm sketched about doing that.

if you try that, make sure you propertly clean the oven after it (really search on how to clean it propertly) and don't use it for a few days
this can leave poisonous (or toxic) stuff...
i asked gbatemp about that oven thing, the guy who did this to a GPU made this warning about cleaning the oven and dont use it for some time...
 

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if you try that, make sure you propertly clean the oven after it (really search on how to clean it propertly) and don't use it for a few days
this can leave poisonous (or toxic) stuff...
i asked gbatemp about that oven thing, the guy who did this to a GPU made this warning about cleaning the oven and dont use it for some time...

Yeah, I plan on using the oven method if the reflow with the heat gun doesn't go too well...

Thanks for the info regardless, though.
 

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Cool, thanks for sharing that with me.

It'll take a lot of work, so I'd watch the video all the way through before attempting. My PS3 still works great, and I'd definitely follow this tutorial for a "permanent fix", though technically there's always (and always will be) the possibility of it breaking again.
 

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It'll take a lot of work, so I'd watch the video all the way through before attempting. My PS3 still works great, and I'd definitely follow this tutorial for a "permanent fix", though technically there's always (and always will be) the possibility of it breaking again.

thanks for the share i was actually needing a good tutorial.
what tools are needed? (dont have time to watch the video now)
i had seen some rebailing metal sheets (rebail kits with metal sheets full of holes) on ebay for selling, should need that stuff?
 

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thanks for the share i was actually needing a good tutorial.
what tools are needed? (dont have time to watch the video now)

I believe all you need is a heat gun, thermal paste, and an oven, but I'd watch the tutorial just to make sure because I haven't seen it in a year.
 

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It'll take a lot of work, so I'd watch the video all the way through before attempting. My PS3 still works great, and I'd definitely follow this tutorial for a "permanent fix", though technically there's always (and always will be) the possibility of it breaking again.

From what I've read though, reballing is the way to go for a more permanent fix than reflowing (doesn't use terrible factory solder.)
 

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usually Foxi4, comes in and explains why you should rebail and not reflow...
I don't think I need to explain this - solder that cracked once will crack again even if you melt it - it's bad solder and once mixed repeatedly with flux (which is a requirement for a proper reflow, you have to use it to lower the melting point and prevent solder points from connecting with eachother) its quality further diminishes. If you want a reflow to be effective, you have to modify the cooling system which is the root of the problem in the first place (you can swap the fan for one with more blades, add copper shims to better dissipate heat, change the thermal compound to a better one or even mount radiators). A reball is superior since it introduces fresh solder which is less likely to crack. You can thank environmentalists for this problem since it's their fault that we're using lead-free solder these days, making solder less elastic and more likely to crack. Because y'know, consumers are idiots and notoriously lick solder to get lead poisoning.
 
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Just an update (I hope this won't be considered as bumping or necro-posting), I have fixed my PS3 by just doing a simple reflow with a heat gun. :yayps3:

Of course though, it was on 4.66, and I updated it to 4.75, meaning I can't steal my IDPS because Sony patched it in 4.70 which I only found out after doing some more research. :hateit:
 
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