Hacking Error Code 002-0102, Have I been banned?

[Ericzander]

Console bans though are a real thing - and sadly it's a plague in the XBX market since most people with console bans go on to sell them into the 2nd hand market and the unwitting buyer finds out the hard way.

Hell, it's even worse for MS. Because little Jimmy buys a used Xbox 360 at the little pawn shop down the street and his mommy lets him use her credit card to pay for 12 months of Xbox live (Little Jimmy is 10 so he doesn't know that he's getting ripped off by buying it full price) and then finds out that the mean old pirates who owned the system before him got it banned. Jimmy may be able to bring the Xbox back but he aint getting his money from paying for live. And then his mom beats him for wasting her money. Such a sad tale

But for 3DS if you get it, see it's banned you're like "wtf?" and then sell it and get most of your money back. If people didn't outrage over MS, they won't over Nintendo.

 

[Platinum Lucario]

I feel really sorry for the people that have had their consoles banned, especially the 3DS users. And I do appologise for not believing in what has just happened to all the affected 3DS users.

I can just imagine how in the future, many users that even buy a legitimate game from a store (after a person sold it after dumping a game and distributing it online or giving away a public header of the ROM online) and then playing online and eventually getting their console blocked. Then it will get as bad as how it's currently happening to Xbox users, it's really sad indeed. :c

 

[LoneGrenade]

I feel really sorry for the people that have had their consoles banned, especially the 3DS users. And I do appologise for not believing in what has just happened to all the affected 3DS users.

I can just imagine how in the future, many users that even buy a legitimate game from a store (after a person sold it after dumping a game and distributing it online or giving away a public header of the ROM online) and then playing online and eventually getting their console blocked. Then it will get as bad as how it's currently happening to Xbox users, it's really sad indeed. :c

No one really knows yet whether or not Nintendo is using way of detecting if the user has a legitimate cartridge in it or not, I don't think that anyone who has only been using legitimate cartridges have been banned after the header was dumped and distributed.

 

[Random Joe]

Why would you feel sorry for anyone?

and why would you complain about getting banned?

 

[Venseer]

Why would you feel sorry for anyone?

and why would you complain about getting banned?

Stop being edgy, dear, you are scaring the kids.

 

[LoneGrenade]

Why would you feel sorry for anyone?

and why would you complain about getting banned?

I think he means he'd feel sorry for the people who bought a secondhand game/console and were unjustifiably banned.

 

[Kracken]

I think he means he'd feel sorry for the people who bought a secondhand game/console and were unjustifiably banned.

I wish gamestops would be more proactive in checking for banned consoles. With the 360 they started making sure they weren't banned by scanning the serial, not sure if they still do that on the new consoles. I bet there are plenty of people who buy a 3DS or other console for their kids and never realize it is banned until after the return window. That sucks.

 

[LoneGrenade]

I wish gamestops would be more proactive in checking for banned consoles. With the 360 they started making sure they weren't banned by scanning the serial, not sure if they still do that on the new consoles. I bet there are plenty of people who buy a 3DS or other console for their kids and never realize it is banned until after the return window. That sucks.

I agree, GameStop should have an active NZone hotspot or something to check for 3DS bans.

It does suck for those that just want a used system, but if you want to ensure that you get an unbanned console, meanwhile supporting Nintendo, it's worth the extra $30~$40 to buy a new one. (to me anyway)

 

[Ericzander]

Do you guys have any theories on if Nintendo can tell if a game played offline is a CIA, 3ds, 3dz, or retail just from the activity log? I don't image that they can. Which would mean that offline CIA games are still safe. But any negative Nancys out there want to give their opinions?

 

[LoneGrenade]

Do you guys have any theories on if Nintendo can tell if a game played offline is a CIA, 3ds, 3dz, or retail just from the activity log? I don't image that they can. Which would mean that offline CIA games are still safe. But any negative Nancys out there want to give their opinions?

I doubt that they can check through your history or activity log, but I'm sure there are some 3DS conspiracy theorists out there who would argue otherwise lol.

At one point I was a little worried about out-of-region games appearing on my "Favorite" list on my friends list, but I think I was just being paranoid.

 

[Ericzander]

I doubt that they can check through your history or activity log, but I'm sure there are some 3DS conspiracy theorists out there who would argue otherwise lol.

Oh, sexy! But for example if you come in contact with someone through streetpass they see "Babygurl6969 most recently played POKEMON Y" and could also see "PirateKingCheater most recently played GENERIC HOMEBREW APPLICATION" I wonder if THOSE logs store any damning data.

 

[Meteo]

Do you guys have any theories on if Nintendo can tell if a game played offline is a CIA, 3ds, 3dz, or retail just from the activity log? I don't image that they can. Which would mean that offline CIA games are still safe. But any negative Nancys out there want to give their opinions?

Not a theory, its a fact. You accepted it when you agreed to their ToS.

You agree that your Nintendo 3DS System will connect to the Internet and to Nintendo’s servers—including in both Active Mode and Sleep Mode—for a variety of purposes, including to obtain system or User Content Restriction System updates, for diagnostic purposes, to transmit system log files as described in the Privacy Policy, or to receive Content. (Chapter 1, Nintendo 3DS End User License Agreement)

 

[LoneGrenade]

Not a theory, its a fact. You accepted it when you agreed to their ToS.

What does the Privacy Policy say about the logs that are collected?

 

[Meteo]

What does the Privacy Policy say about the logs that are collected?

Information we collect automatically. We may collect some information automatically when you use our products and services.
Some types of information we may collect automatically include:

• Information about your use of our products and services, including your browser type, operating system, platform, IP address, MAC address, cookies, language and region;
• Information about websites you visited before and after visiting our websites, search queries that landed you on our websites, search queries you conducted on our websites, and pages and advertisements you viewed and links you clicked on while using our websites;
• Information about your Nintendo device including device serial number, device ID and friend codes; and
• Information about your game play, online status, wireless access point, and other information about your interactions with our products and services.

source
http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/3ds/en_la/privacy_policy.jsp

 

[Ericzander]

Thanks Meteo for that. But it doesn't clarify WHAT they can see. Or rather if the log that they get give evidence that the game is CIA or 3DZ. Just that you played that game.

 

[Platinum Lucario]

It would be impossible for Nintendo to know if a CIA, 3DS or 3DZ was used during offline gameplay, unless Nintendo Network servers check the activity log on the 3DS right when the 3DS is next connected to the internet again.

But there is something I do worry about though, is that Nintendo could end up doing the same thing as what happened to the Xbox consoles when using a modified firmware or otherwise using emuNAND. If Nintendo ends up blocking my 3DS console before I ever get to do a system transfer to the New 3DS that I have had since November, I'd be really upset. Because I won't be able to do a system transfer due to it requiring connection to Nintendo Network. And I would feel sorry for those that are still using the Nintendo DS profile exploit. After all, the Nintendo DS profile exploit that is currently used actually is a modification to the 3DS NAND, from what I've looked at anyways.

 

[LoneGrenade]

source
http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/3ds/en_la/privacy_policy.jsp

Thanks for the research, however this is also a generic 'cover-all' for when you're using certain games. I.e. They collect your adventure history etc. when playing Pokemon in order to update the Pokemon Global Link.

I'm not disagreeing, I feel I need to clarify that every time I make a point on this forum because some people can't hold their shit.

I'm just stating that this doesn't mean they collect this information directly from your console every time you start it up. This is Nintendo we're talking about, not the NSA.

That being said, this part does discomfort me a little:

Information about websites you visited before and after visiting our websites, search queries that landed you on our websites, search queries you conducted on our websites, and pages and advertisements you viewed and links you clicked on while using our websites.

Only because many of us go directly to the GW exploit page from Nintendo's start page.

 

[Meteo]

Thanks for the research, however this is also a generic 'cover-all' for when you're using certain games. I.e. They collect your adventure history etc. when playing Pokemon in order to update the Pokemon Global Link.

I'm not disagreeing, I feel I need to clarify that every time I make a point on this forum because some people can't hold their shit.

I'm just stating that this doesn't mean they collect this information directly from your console every time you start it up. This is Nintendo we're talking about, not the NSA.

well the important point is that it doesn't exclude it either. If Nintendo wanted to really clamp down on piracy, they would have all the tools at their disposal to do so.

 

[Nightwish]

Why would you feel sorry for anyone?

Because I'm not a sociopathic asshole?

 

[Doran754]

Because I'm not a sociopathic asshole?

I think you're on the wrong forum, it's full of them unfortunately, as you can tell.