Hacking Wii U Hacking & Homebrew Discussion

[the_randomizer]

And didnt share ;p

Because they're greedy little haxxors. Sure. they did it in a month, but should we give them respect about it now? I say no, they don't deserve it.

 

[I pwned U!]

Hey everyone! I'm currently filling out the application to be a licensed Wii U developer using the Unity and Web Framework option (no dev kit required, code runs on any retail Wii U ). If selected, I will have access to this very specific dev environment. Sure it may be limited but it will give me more freedom for development purposes. I will be forced into a Non-Disclosure Agreement so I won't be able to release any info on the inner workings of anything, however, I could work on some exploits (maybe) and release them for free (hosted on a web server) instead of posting them to the eshop (if selected).

I will have access to a limited SDK for developing Wii U games/applications. I think this could be pretty useful . Anybody here lucky enough to be selected for this program? Its completely free .

UPDATE: Application done, now we wait.....

I am part of it! I just hope that the upcoming exploit will allow me to test/debug my software on my retail Wii U.

I am currently starting on developing a game heavily inspired by the Mario Vs. Luigi mode from New Super Mario Bros. (but without any of Nintendo's IP, of course).

P.S. If anyone asks you how much the dev hardware costs, JUST TELL THEM THAT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY!

I found that out the hard way after receiving an email about a comment I made in relation to the cost in the Miiverse Holiday Wishes community.

 

[hdx]

If you are interested in purchasing the CAT-DEV then note that one is located in Poland and is up for sale: http://allegro.pl/nintendo-wii-u-development-kit-cat-dev-i4937095959.html It costs almost 3000$ tho.

 

[Theeze]

Because they're greedy little haxxors. Sure. they did it in a month, but should we give them respect about it now? I say no, they don't deserve it.

All for the sake of preventing warez. They deserve a medal. I'm sure Nintendo couldn't care any less. None of them work for the industry, which pretty much proves these companies think of them as a threat, regardless whether they release the info or not. Damned if you do, Damned if you don't. The fact is they are not that much of a threat for them to land jobs at these companies. They get free information every year at the hackers convention. No need to pay anyone to close these exploits.

f0f are a smart group when it comes to hacking and how to get around complex situations when it comes to technology...that's where it stops. They think not releasing anything makes them safe from being a target. The fact is they broke the EULA and if Nintendo, Sony or MS decide to take action, the excuse of not releasing anything to the public is irrelevant.

 

[the_randomizer]

All for the sake of preventing warez. They deserve a medal. I'm sure Nintendo couldn't care any less. None of them work for the industry, which pretty much proves these companies think of them as a threat, regardless whether they release the info or not. Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.

f0f are a smart group when it comes to hacking and how to get around complex situations when it comes to technology...that's where it stops. They think not releasing anything makes them safe from being a target. The fact is they broke the EULA and if Nintendo, Sony or MS decide to take action, the excuse of not releasing anything to the public is irrelevant.

And yet, hacking a console isn't exactly legal in many countries either, so..... hacking the Wii U is actually against the Nintendo EULA and TOS. I know, crazy, right? How does hacking a console and yet preventing warez for said make their refusal to release it any more legal? Modifying a console to circumvent security measures is still illegal, whether anything is released or not, their refusal doesn't make that part any more legal.

Keeping it a secret then telling people about it will only make leaking it all the more desirable. That's a known fact, it's better to keep secrets and not tell others. Might as well call it taunting, think of it like dangling a carrot in front of a horse, but not actually giving it. Breaking open a console and not releasing a hack to prevent piracy doesn't make hacking magically legal.

 

[Theeze]

And yet, hacking a console isn't exactly legal in many countries either, so..... hacking the Wii U is actually against the Nintendo EULA and TOS. Crazy, right?

The sole reason for not releasing anything is to prevent themselves from being a target fron Nintendo. They made themselves a target the moment they started illegally extracting information out of it. Which is why the whole " Worried about warez" is a bunch of crap. Nintendo isn't aggressive towards them or hacking as proven with not caring to patch smashstack or Vwii. If this was Sony, they wouldn't even tweet about their findings.

 

[the_randomizer]

The sole reason for not releasing anything is to prevent themselves from being a target fron Nintendo. They made themselves a target the moment they started illegally extracting information out of it. Which is why the whole " Worried about warez" is a bunch of crap. Nintendo isn't aggressive towards them as proven with not caring to patch smashstack or Vwii. If this was Sony, they wouldn't even tweet about their findings.

Exactly, Sony would hunt them down like dogs, but now that the key has been released, there's not a blood thing anyone can do about. Team f0f can bitch all they want, it's not gonna undo and contrary to belief, this isn't gonna make piracy any easier. It's well known that the common key in and of itself, cannot actually assist with piracy. More pieces of the puzzle are needed.

 

[75mak]

Exactly, Sony would hunt them down like dogs, but now that the key has been released, there's not a blood thing anyone can do about. Team f0f can bitch all they want, it's not gonna undo and contrary to belief, this isn't gonna make piracy any easier. It's well known that the common key in and of itself, cannot actually assist with piracy. More pieces of the puzzle are needed.

I don't agree with f0f argument about why they secretive with their findings.... But their argument would be the common key leak while in of itself doesn't lead to warez, it is just another piece of a puzzle which makes the warez breakthrough easier - as its one less piece of the puzzle.

For them to get all of the puzzle in one month was pretty amazing

 

[the_randomizer]

I don't agree with f0f argument about why they secretive with their findings.... But their argument would be the common key leak while in of itself doesn't lead to warez, it is just another piece of a puzzle which makes the warez breakthrough easier - as its one less piece of the puzzle.

For them to get all of the puzzle in one month was pretty amazing

And that's the only praise they're getting from me. Hackers who withhold, irrespective of their intentions, are only a detriment to the scene.

 

[marcan_troll]

And that's the only praise they're getting from me. Hackers who withhold, irrespective of their intentions, are only a detriment to the scene.

Mental note: do not work on hacking any more consoles; according to the_randomizer, the scene will be better off that way.

 

[jammybudga777]

chuckle chuckle^^^^ sorry if this has already been answered but out of all the keys the nintendo wii u has which ones are left to collect?

 

[OncleJulien]

And that's the only praise they're getting from me. Hackers who withhold, irrespective of their intentions, are only a detriment to the scene.

the scene which, by the way, wouldnt exist without them.

 

[the_randomizer]

the scene which, by the way, wouldnt exist without them.

Then tell me, how does their withholding hacks/information truly benefit the scene to other hackers and users alike? I really would love to know How is the scene benefited if nothing ever gets released? That makes no sense.

 

[jammybudga777]

its called having an understanding off the hardware which then in turn will get you information about the software. even with the things pointed out previously in Failoverflows chats and blog we still (3years down the line) dont have a fully working exploit. (this isnt to mock anybody working on exploits btw)

 

[FPSRussi4]

^ talking about things he doesn't know again.


To be fair to f0f, they got the hashes which let us confirm the common key, AND they helped us with the webkit exploit. They DID do a lot, but I can see where the hate comes from. I can also see their viewpoint, sort of, considering the geohot event and whatnot.

Also Marcan, WERE you guys terrified of warez/piracy?

 

[jammybudga777]

So you're saying I don't know what I'm talking about but you've just said the same thing in a different way.

 

[Twili]

^ talking about things he doesn't know again.


To be fair to f0f, they got the hashes which let us confirm the common key, AND they helped us with the webkit exploit. They DID do a lot, but I can see where the hate comes from. I can also see their viewpoint, sort of, considering the geohot event and whatnot.

Also Marcan, WERE you guys terrified of warez/piracy?

...They had to get the key in the first place to be able to calculate a hash.

 

[FPSRussi4]

So you're saying I don't know what I'm talking about but you've just said the same thing in a different way.

...except I didn't, but okay. You're right.

...They had to get the key in the first place to be able to calculate a hash.

I stand by what I said. They gave us the hashes to the common key so we could confirm it was real.

 

[dauphin327]

I dunno why they are terrified with piracy, when there's like only 5 games on Wii U worth it... And most people already have those games.

 

[the_randomizer]

I dunno why they are terrified with piracy, when there's like only 5 games on Wii U worth it... And most people already have those games.

Perhaps their fear is incurring the wrath of the Nintendo gods....?