Hacking Would GW have released 2.6 / 9.2 compatibility mode...

[masterzero]

If govanify didn't release the CFW / SKY3ds wasn't released?

Don't take me wrong : I have a GW and I'm enjoying greatly the cart , having cias now , etc etc etc . And I can see people with updated 3ds being happy and buying the cart now with the upcoming update.

But I can't help thinking that GW launcher being compatible with devmenu was released too damn fast... and suddenly , when they said their goal was save editing and stuff and that working with updated versions wasn't much of a priority.... TADAH !! Upcoming 9.2 support !!! and not SKY3ds shit , but having multirom and cias and stuff !!


It's too much of a coincidence... I can only think that they could do both and they wouldn't have released anything yet if others didn't release it.. Which makes me wonder why... were they scared of GW being useless if they lend people load CIAs ? The 9.2 is the one I dont understand ... if they could do it why didn't they do it before so they could earn more monies??

 

[Purple_Shyguy]

It feels like the GW team hold stuff back to release when competitors make a move on them.

Like allowing us to install .cias within days of the cfw leak.

 

[michyprima]

It feels like the GW team hold stuff back to release when competitors make a move on them.

Like allowing us to install .cias within days of the cfw leak.

it's called market strategy. sadly it's how things work in this world.

 

[michyprima]

double post

 

[TVL]

if they could do it why didn't they do it before so they could earn more monies??

That's simple, because they couldn't do it.

 

[Ericss]

It feels like the GW team hold stuff back to release when competitors make a move on them.

Or, you know, they were waiting for the N3DS to come out on all regions, knowing that Ninty would patch whatever exploit they're using as soon as it found out about it. But then Sky3DS happened and they were forced to rush the update.

 

[piratesephiroth]

It feels like the GW team hold stuff back to release when competitors make a move on them.

Like allowing us to install .cias within days of the cfw leak.

Yeah, the CIA installation was clearly an intentional limitation. We must thank govanify for that one.

 

[masterzero]

That's simple, because they couldn't do it.

Ye , so simple that when sky3ds they could do it ... what a coincidence


Same thing happened with eshop games I think ... new GW version the day after XD

 

[slowmotioning]

I doubt CFW was the reason. Supporting the current highest firmware as of right now means a much, much larger potential customer base.

Sky3DS could've sparked it, but the Sky3DS release in general has always seemed fishy to me. Why take such a huge risk with the arbitrary 10 game limit, when they must have known there would be huge backlash and resistance? Why not announce a new version without the limit now that Gateway has announced multirom support for current firmwares?

If the people behind Sky3DS don't release another version, then it'll officially make zero sense to me. Maybe Gateway bought them out or something; that's the only logical thing I can think of here.

 

[TVL]

Ye , so simple that when sky3ds they could do it ... what a coincidence

What do you think they've been waiting for then? They just sat on an exploit since when? Since the New 3DS was announced? 29 of August? Or maybe several years just waiting until someone releases a 1:1 card?

 

[geishroy]

Yeah... i'm not exactly sure why they would have held back on this. If more 3DS handhelds are compatible they have a higher chance to actually sell more carts. Why would they want to stranglehold themselves by having compatibility only with a handful of remaining 3DS's in the wild. I think they have been slow to move to higher compatibility solely on wanting to wait for the N3DS to launch to see if they still had a compatible exploit.

 

[masterzero]

What do you think they've been waiting for then? They just sat on an exploit since when? Since the New 3DS was announced? 29 of August? Or maybe several years just waiting until someone releases a 1:1 card?

Just saying that their "goal" was save editing for the next version.... and suddenly after sky3ds appeared they have a solution for working on latest firmware LOL , exploits are not found so fast


Even if the 9.2 was something they didn't hold ..... devmenu was surely a limitation

 

[TVL]

Just saying that their "goal" was save editing for the next version.... and suddenly after sky3ds appeared they have a solution for working on latest firmware LOL , exploits are not found so fast


Even if the 9.2 was something they didn't hold ..... devmenu was surely a limitation

We'll see when the exploit is available... you think it's gonna work on firmwares below 9?

 

[masterzero]

We'll see when the support is available... you think it's gonna work on firmwares below 9?

I don't really know... If I had to guess my guess is that they said to update so that the persons who are holding into some lesser update thinking that they would release something for them first have the latest version and can have some eshop and shet while they wait

 

[TVL]

I don't really know... If I had to guess my guess is that they said to update so that the persons who are holding into some lesser update thinking that they would release something for them first have the latest version and can have some eshop and shet while they wait

That might be it, but there still was no reason to not release the update before anyone knew of the new 3DS. I don't even know what dev menu is, but it wouldn't surprise me if they see something and implement it to work with gateway. Or maybe they just like fucking with people, who knows.

 

[Deleted-355425]

True, they may all be the same Company and just wanted to milk the market, or they are competitive a d GW was forced to release because:
A) the exploit is very similar to one which my get patched because of sky3ds or ssspwn.

Or
B) they needed to squash the competition and fast, but that doesn't explain why they thought sky3ds was much of a threat with the 10 game limit and announced the new 9.x exploit before Nintendo has even announced the new3ds consoles all sounds fishy to me.

 

[Timburpton]

That might be it, but there still was no reason to not release the update before anyone knew of the new 3DS. I don't even know what dev menu is, but it wouldn't surprise me if they see something and implement it to work with gateway. Or maybe they just like fucking with people, who knows.

I think they did not release 9.2 because at that time 4.x 3ds still a little easy to find.

 

[Steena]

Ye , so simple that when sky3ds they could do it ... what a coincidence


Same thing happened with eshop games I think ... new GW version the day after XD

The "coincidence" is that the 9.X firmware has a new easy-to-find weakness, and several teams found out and made their own workarounds.
Wouldn't that be perfectly normal? So why didn't sky3DS release before 9.X firmware? They themselves were holding out for king3DS competition?

The N3DS came years after the 4.5 firmwares, there's no way they were holding out so long for a possible release of a new hardware, especially when a 9.X firmware wasn't even available at the time. How could they take the risk of skipping giving higher compatibility to previous firmwares (by far their biggest increase in profit, you don't get any profit from giving existing users new features) if they weren't sure the available firmware in the future would allow them to do it?

That's absolutely crazy, that's losing guaranteed millions for a SLIGHT chance that a new hardware gets released, and a SLIGHT chance that the firmware it will ship with wouldn't block their planned exploit. Just no. And what if that firmware blocks their exploit then? They just lost 6.x/7.x/8.x compatibility and gained nothing. That's too much of a gamble.

I guess that with developing new hardware comes higher chance of choking and letting a weakness slide. Remember with the PSP Go release? A new exploit was found because of that release, and that exploit was then retroactively worked around in the previous models as well a month later. This seems like a similar event.

 

[masterzero]

I would prefer them releasing the stuff they have asap and have competitors work on TRYING to copying their stuff than not release it and us GW users be waiting for news while competitors are working on new stuf... That way at least the gw users can enjoy , and it's not sure they can copy their stuff .... the clones are dead now and the mt card is surviving as it can.. but It couldnt copy the keys off gateway update... it had to do it when they were released

The "coincidence" is that the 9.X firmware has a new easy-to-find weakness, and several teams found out and made their own workarounds.
Wouldn't that be perfectly normal? So why didn't sky3DS release before 9.X firmware? They themselves were holding out for king3DS competition?.

I doubt nintendo slip up again.. and what a coincidence again that 9.2 is exploitable now right ? :S

 

[TVL]

I think they did not release 9.2 because at that time 4.x 3ds still a little easy to find.

That doesn't make any sense. If they found an exploit that worked on the newest firmware and nobody knew that the new 3DS was comming. There is in my mind no reason at all not to release that.