Hacking $80 Gateway card worth it?

[natkoden]

...and? Also, there is no code - this is a hardware-based solution, not a software-based one - there is no software to be stolen outside of whatever's on the microcontrollers if there are any. No menu, no unsigned code, just cartridge "emulation".

The reason why these products are coming with such high prices is because they're the very first ones on the market, there is very little alternative and if you want one, you might as well pay a little extra. That, and they're made according to a completely new technological process and the first batch needs to pay its own bills.


Uh-huh, okay.

and that, it's called "taking advantage of the costumer"

 

[Foxi4]

and that, it's called "taking advantage of the costumer"

No, it's called bloody free market. If I offer a service or an item that only I can provide, I might as well ask for a high price because it's exclusive and rare and that makes it valuable.

 

[Lestworth]

It took DStwo about 4yrs after the scene releases of flashcards to come out, so i dont see why people are thinking similar support to pop up within a year on the 3DS.

 

[Devin]

No, it's called bloody free market. If I offer a service or an item that only I can provide, I might as well ask for a high price because it's exclusive and rare and that makes it valuable.

Exactly. A monopoly for 3DS flashcarts.

 

[P-CHYLD]

Because there aren't enough options currently available to play SNES and Genesis games? People obsessing over playing early 90's games on a 3DS, when you can already do that on a PSP or DS, seem to be putting their priorities in the wrong places.

Not everyone is into playing pokemon and mario. Someone else said something about contra, another classic. I'll said it again, Supply and Demand. You give users what they want especially the paying ones, you are guaranteed to bring in more revenue. Its not rocket science, its coming sense.

 

[GregoryRasputin]

I really hate comments like this, because it makes the user sound like an arrogant ass, who can see into the future.

But i am an arrogant ass who can see into the future, no need to sugar coat it, that's what i am, i seen with the likes of True Blue(PS3 Scene), i told the True Blue tards they were being stupid buying such a device, because they were using someone else's code and that the whole method could have been done months before for free, garyOPA was True Blues front man and promoter, he knew how to get the method for free and instead of helping the scene, he also didn't support the buyers when the True Blue team stopped communicating with the people they sold the devices to, he decided to profit, you will notice with this device, that Opa is involved in the promotion, so like anything associated with him, this device is definately a scamful rip off.......

I think people are starting to argue another point, and not the reason why this thread was created.

The OP asked if this device was worth buying, i gave my honest opinion that it isn't and why it isn't

...and? Also, there is no code - this is a hardware-based solution, not a software-based one - there is no software to be stolen outside of whatever's on the microcontrollers if there are any. No menu, no unsigned code, just cartridge "emulation".

Of course not, keep telling your self that....

The reason why these products are coming with such high prices is because they're the very first ones on the market, there is very little alternative and if you want one, you might as well pay a little extra. That, and they're made according to a completely new technological process and the first batch needs to pay its own bills.

Wrong, the reason these devices are such a high price, is because there are enough dozy bastards gullible enough to pay that amount of money, if no one bought the product, it would go down in price really quickly.
Oh and i prefer to buy my games, i do not need anything like this and even if i did, im smart enough to wait.

 

[Foxi4]

Of course not, keep telling your self that....

Which part of "cannot run code that wasn't signed by Nintendo" is unclear to you? There can't be any 3DS-side software on this thing because such software cannot be launched without being officially signed by Nintendo.

Wrong, the reason these devices are such a high price, is because there are enough dozy bastards gullible enough to pay that amount of money, if no one bought the product, it would go down in price really quickly.
Oh and i prefer to buy my games, i do not need anything like this and even if i did, im smart enough to wait.

Here's what would happen if nobody buys the product:

• Price does go down because the manufacturer needs to cut losses and make up for their expenses
• No second batch is manufactured because there doesn't seem to be any demand for the item
• Nobody creates clones because there is no demand for the product in question
• "Gateway is closed"

"Economy Classes 101" say "hi!" - nobody is going to dish out for manufacturing something that doesn't sell because manufacturers are in this buisness to make money, not losses. They want to make a profit, not a statement. They're following business sense, not a cause. If anything, you should be bloody rooting that it does sell, because then other manufacturers will be interested in releasing products of their own.

 

[GregoryRasputin]

"Economy Classes 101" say "hi!" - nobody is going to dish out for manufacturing something that doesn't sell because manufacturers are in this buisness to make money, not losses. They want to make a profit, not a statement. They're following business sense, not a cause. If anything, you should be bloody rooting that it does sell, because then other manufacturers will be interested in releasing products of their own.

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[Lestworth]

Its obvious the guy is just attempting to troll the thread at this point.

 

[Foxi4]

Its obvious the guy is just attempting to troll the thread at this point.

Not sure if troll or an actual communist without even a shadow of a clue how the market actually works here in the real world...

 

[GregoryRasputin]

Its obvious the guy is just attempting to troll the thread at this point.

I'm making valid points, i hardly call that trolling, the fact remains that this device is:
A.) OVER PRICED
B.) A Rip Off
C.) Pointless as it doesn't give us homebrew

I could go on and on, but its a waste of time, because im being told im wrong by the folls that are going to buy this device.

 

[Ryukouki]

And your points have been repeatedly shot down by earlier posts in this thread because the first flashcarts always were this expensive.

 

[GregoryRasputin]

Not sure if troll or an actual communist without even a shadow of a clue how the market actually works here in the real world...

Oh i know how the market works and i also know how scammers work.

Scammer (Gateway) seems gullible 3DS pirates, thinks of ill release this device and bump the price up quite high, because these idiots are dumb enough to pay for it, profit....

 

[VMM]

If you can´t pay many 3ds games it worth, but I think it is too soon to buy a 3ds flashcard, like many said here it will appear ''clones'' of gateway 3ds and I'm going to wait if they DESTROY the region lock...

Never, by this method, there will be a flashcard bypassing region-lock

 

[GregoryRasputin]

And your points have been repeatedly shot down by earlier posts in this thread because the first flashcarts always were this expensive.

They haven't yet been shot down, just quoted by fools who want to give a company money to be able to steal games.

 

[Foxi4]

I'm making valid points, i hardly call that trolling, the fact remains that this device is:
A.) OVER PRICED //First of its kind, ergo expensive
B.) A Rip Off //An average DS or GBA kit back in the day exceeded $100, $200 bucks if you wanted to use both SLOT-1 and SLOT-2 - devices like this are initially expensive
C.) Pointless as it doesn't give us homebrew //...because we don't know how to sign applications or run them unsigned - the moment we do, this might as well launch them, there's nothing standing in the way of that because it already launches binaries that are signed - now we just need an exploit that can go around the security measures

I could go on and on, but its a waste of time, because im being told im wrong by the folls that are going to buy this device. //You're being told you're wrong because you're wrong, not because we're all going to buy this. Hell, I don't even have a 3DS.

They haven't yet been shot down, just quoted by fools who want to give a company money to be able to steal games. //Piracy isn't theft - theft entails that the goods are missing because you took them away from their original owner, piracy copies the original goods - huge difference.

 

[Ryukouki]

This seriously is just basic economics. When something goes up, it's eventually gonna go back down. Since they are the first team to have an assumedly working cart, they get the right to monopolize and capitalize on that success. I'm pretty sure that people involved with the community for long periods of time are used to this kind of monopolizing, because it happens every single time.

 

[porkiewpyne]

Oh i know how the market works and i also know how scammers work.

Scammer (Gateway) seems gullible 3DS pirates, thinks of ill release this device and bump the price up quite high, because these idiots are dumb enough to pay for it, profit....

The same way Ferrari is a scammer because their cars are not priced as cheap as a Tata Nanos right?

 

[GregoryRasputin]

blablabla

Its a pity you don't actually know how to use quotes properly >.<
But i suppose lucky for me, as you are talking out of your rectum anyway, so no big loss to me

 

[Ryukouki]

EDIT: Ah, I see you weren't talking about me. Nevermind.